YouTube using location (but location services are off)

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  1. Roc P. macrumors regular

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    I noticed today that even though I have Safari Location Services turned OFF on my iPad 2, when I go to the YouTube website the Location Services arrow shows up on the top right next to the battery meter. What gives?
     

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  2. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Location Services for Safari are OFF

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  3. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    It's probably a System Feature using Location Services.

    The icon simply means that your location is being requested by something, it doesn't have to be the App on the screen.
     
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  5. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Just seems odd that it only happens when I got to the YouTube site.


    Nope.
     
  6. alent1234 macrumors 603

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    seriously, they need to know your location to route the network traffic

    google has direct circuits to every ISP, multiple circuits to each. they need your location so that the site knows the best way to send you your data
     
  7. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    Can the conspiracy crap.

    Google can't get your location from Safari without your permission.
     
  8. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    If that's the case then I can live with that.


    I'm not implying any sort of conspiracy. I never gave permission though.
     
  9. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    Although that's true, it would never trigger the icon to appear on your iPad.
     
  10. Rigby macrumors 601

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    Do you see a gray or violet arrow under Privacy/Location Services after quitting Safari? If not, also check under System Services at the very bottom.

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    No, that's not how it works. CDNs do not require location information from the user terminal.
     
  11. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    No arrows of any color in either place after quitting Safari.
     
  12. Rigby macrumors 601

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    That is really weird. Normally it shows you what has recently requested location information. Possibly a stupid question: Did you actually click on System Services to go into the section?
     
  13. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    System services. It's iAd location based services
     
  14. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes I did.


    I have that turned off and have attached a picture.
     

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  15. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Turned off Compass Calibration

    OK so I turned off Compass Calibration and went to the YouTube site and the arrow didn't show up next to the battery meter.
     
  16. Rigby macrumors 601

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    Interesting. I just tried it on my iPad and have the same thing. It's definitely the compass calibration, since the violet arrow pops up there every time after it happens. It does not happen with another site I tried (nytimes.com), nor on my iPhone 5 with Youtube.
     
  17. Roc P. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Definitely strange.
     
  18. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    Thinking about it, a web site can ask the browser for a reading from the compass.

    Some sites do this to determine how you're holding the device (i.e. landscape or portrait).

    In doing so, iOS would trigger a compass calibration and the location services symbol would appear.

    There's no prompt when a site accesses the compass.
     
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    Hmm looks like you guys may have gotten to the bottom of it! Sweet!
     
  21. Hammie macrumors 65816

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    Google doesn't have connections to every ISP. That is not how things work on the Internet. They may have redundant and/or diversity between multiple carriers for added reliability, but not a connection to EVERY Internet provider.

    The location service is most likely used by their Content Distribution (CD) system which will direct traffic to one of their various data centers. This can help alleviate a heavy load on a specific set of servers. A CD can direct traffic to the closest data center under normal circumstances. In the event taht a specific data center is receiving too much traffic, it can load balance or redirect new requests to another data center. (BTW, this is a very high level overview.)

    It is not always perfect, but it usually works very, very well.
     
  22. xne23 macrumors newbie

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    other websites which behave badly

    Out there are other websites which behave badly by using location services without user permission, like for example:
    www.nature.com/news
    touch.chicagotribune.com

    Especially, touch.chicagotribune.com is awfull because even if the location services are off for Safari and the user answers NO to the their question regarding the use of location services still the website is using the location services ( the gray arrow appears on the top right of screen)!!!

    P.S. The calibration is set on off!
     
  23. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    It's not possible for a website to use "location services" without permission.

    The web site requests your location using JavaScript in a standardised way.

    It's up to the web browser (Safari in this case) to decide whether that should be allowed based on your settings.
     
  24. andybno1 macrumors 68040

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    location services was set to on.... you only turned off location services for individual apps
     

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