Completely agree. There's no way DirecTV would offer an OTT service without this competition.
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/att-directv-internet-tv-packages-ott-1201719571/
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http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/att-directv-internet-tv-packages-ott-1201719571/
I agree with regard to OTA - not sure how else that can be done without channels.
Netflix and Hulu and Amazon are not channels though. They don't have linear predetermined programming. I can start an episode of House of Cards in one room, and my brother using the same Netflix account can start the same episode of House of Cards in another room but 10 minutes later than me. The fact they are competitors and don't want you going to the competition is irrelevant to the channel/nonchannel idea.
The main thing about channels is they have linear predetermined programming, and are designed to essentially carve up scheduled times slots in a day and increase the capacity (for example: 100 channels = 240 hours of programming per day; 200 channels = 480 hours of programming per day; etc.). Netflix and Hulu and others, in theory, can have thousands of hours of content, but it is not programmed in any way and the user is limited only to the time they have.
So how is paying $80 a month and then being nickle and dimed on streaming services like Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO Go, Starz and probably Showtime anytime be ANY Cheaper, I may save $15 a month if I tried cutting cable AND I would be missing out on several shows that I watch.
Those channels are overpriced, HBO is not worth $15 a month and neither are any of them. If you compare services, Netflix at $10 a month is way better than HBO. You have more choices of tv shows, more movies, original content etc..
HBO you get maybe 5 good shows and the rest are movie reruns.
$25 for 25 channels. Most channels are 50 cents, HBO and ESPN and other premium channels are $3-$5. They would get more subscribers. I would buy into that plan. But instead they are greedy they start at $40 or more and $15 for premium channels.
ROFL......The HBO app right now has Fantastic Four, Pitch Perfect 2, Spy, San Andreas, Man From Uncle, Get Hard, Jupiter Ascending, Inherent Vice, etc. What recent movies does Netflix have?
You clearly have zero clue how much it cost to produce content or are being willfully ignorant. You clearly are either cheap or don't like television. There's no point in even continuing this conversation. So why are you wasting our time even commenting on this thread? You think the entire industry should change so you can watch one or two shows? People like you are whiners who think everything should be free or exactly how you want it and basically free. This is the problem with the stupid internet, it's completely devalued everything and made people think your ENTITLED.
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I don't know if I would use those films as an example
But yeah, HBO Go has a LOT of stuff.. I get tired of people complaining about nothing to watch on stuff like HBO Go and Netflix. These people should just admit they are cheap or don't like entertainment and move on with their books or whatever they do.
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You clearly have zero clue how much it cost to produce content or are being willfully ignorant. You clearly are either cheap or don't like television. There's no point in even continuing this conversation. So why are you wasting our time even commenting on this thread? You think the entire industry should change so you can watch one or two shows? People like you are whiners who think everything should be free or exactly how you want it and basically free. This is the problem with the stupid internet, it's completely devalued everything and made people think your ENTITLED.
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I don't know if I would use those films as an example
But yeah, HBO Go has a LOT of stuff.. I get tired of people complaining about nothing to watch on stuff like HBO Go and Netflix. These people should just admit they are cheap or don't like entertainment and move on with their books or whatever they do.
I love how people who don't like an opinion other than their own want people to stop commenting. I'm not going to stop if you don't like it then don't read it and move on. I have plenty of clue how much it costs and I also have plenty of clue how much of that is profit. Yeah I'm cheap, I like paying less and getting more. You want to pay $150 a month to support 300 channels of garbage that shouldn't exit that's fine, but I don't. Yes, I do think the industry should change because their business model is unsustainable. Look what happened to the music industry they resisted change and now look where they are. The same thing will happen to tv and movies. Their products are too expensive and that's why people are cutting the cord. I know rich people that are balking at the expense of Directv.
Get a clue, people that can easily afford $200 a month for tv are realizing that it's not in their best interest to continue that.
Oh and the internet has not devalued anything, what it has done is give people options and choices.While exposing movies, tv and music for the ripoff they have been for the last 50 years. So many years of having to buy the same movie or show or record just because the medium changed. Was that fair? If someone owned a vhs of a movie shouldn't they at least get a discount to buy a dvd or a bluray copy? No. The movie industry was greedy and they have their head stuck in the sand and they are getting exactly what they deserve.
I agree with everything thomasguide says! I will never pay for DirecTV/Dish/cable Co. again until they drop all their stupid usage/DVR fees and offer me only the channels I want for something well less than $50. PlayStation Vue at $35/month is about the top end of what I'm willing to pay (while also subscribing to Netflix and Hulu). Vue gives me everything I need; Live sports, news, Golf Channel, TBS, TNT, TV Land, AMC, and a DVR, all for an affordable price with zero hidden fees, no price increases after 12 months, no contracts and $50 less than the cheapest cable package in my area. This is the future of television and the quicker the industry realizes and comes to terms with it the better. Fighting it, like the music industry, will only make their pain worse.
I always laugh at people (other consumers) who use lines like "you have zero clue how much it cost to produce content." You are right and quite frankly, I don't give a damn how much it cost. I am the consumer, provide it to me at a price I'm willing to pay or go under. Makes no difference to me. I will never understand why the internet age has created this mindset that consumers must appreciate and accept the cost involved in producing the things we want. Then accept whatever price they graciously give us because "think of the people that made it." No, that's a stupid mindset and since the dawn of time consumers have always been looking for the cheapest why to get something. If a business cannot make its product for the lowest amount consumers are willing to pay, then they have to cut cost or go under. This is Business 101.
The most successful businesses find ways to provide their products at a price where most people are comfortable paying. That is changing for the TV industry. No amount of begging the consumer to care about how much it cost to produce a show will change that fact. People are flat out tired of paying $100/month for for packages that contain 100s of channels they do not watch. I'm perfectly fine with the 70 channels from Vue. Combined with Netflix and Hulu, I can watch anything that interest me for about $80 less then what I was paying DirecTV when we canceled 2 years ago. People who are against lower prices and more options for consumers are really stupid IMO. Why would you not want a cheaper option? Yes, "Once Upon a Time" might have to reduce the number of episodes per season or get canceled but, you'll live. New shows/channels will be created, for cheaper this time around, and we will all live happily ever after.
I always laugh at people (other consumers) who use lines like "you have zero clue how much it cost to produce content." You are right and quite frankly, I don't give a damn how much it cost. I am the consumer, provide it to me at a price I'm willing to pay or go under. Makes no difference to me. I will never understand why the internet age has created this mindset that consumers must appreciate and accept the cost involved in producing the things we want. Then accept whatever price they graciously give us because "think of the people that made it." No, that's a stupid mindset and since the dawn of time consumers have always been looking for the cheapest why to get something. If a business cannot make its product for the lowest amount consumers are willing to pay, then they have to cut cost or go under. This is Business 101.
The most successful businesses find ways to provide their products at a price where most people are comfortable paying. That is changing for the TV industry. No amount of begging the consumer to care about how much it cost to produce a show will change that fact. People are flat out tired of paying $100/month for for packages that contain 100s of channels they do not watch. I'm perfectly fine with the 70 channels from Vue. Combined with Netflix and Hulu, I can watch anything that interest me for about $80 less then what I was paying DirecTV when we canceled 2 years ago. People who are against lower prices and more options for consumers are really stupid IMO. Why would you not want a cheaper option? Yes, "Once Upon a Time" might have to reduce the number of episodes per season or get canceled but, you'll live. New shows/channels will be created, for cheaper this time around, and we will all live happily ever after.