iPod Zune Octavio... Definite iPod Hi-Fi ripoff

Sirin

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Now, you would've thought that Microsoft would have a ripoff of the iPod in a similar but not exact way. But HERE, VAF has "invented" the Zune Octavio, a clear ripoff of the iPod Hi-Fi! Just take a look.

http://www.zunescene.com/VAF/



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sushi

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Sirin said:
Now, you would've thought that Microsoft would have a ripoff of the iPod in a similar but not exact way. But HERE, VAF has "invented" the Zune Octavio, a clear ripoff of the iPod Hi-Fi! Just take a look.
With the Zune coming out, we will probably see all kinds of iPod type accessories adapted for the Zune.
 

BurtonCCC

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Apple can and probably will sue.

Daniel.

sushi said:
With the Zune coming out, we will probably see all kinds of iPod type accessories adapted for the Zune.
Yes, but in this case, where it looks like VAF took the Hi-Fi, painted it black, and moved the speakers around, it's an obvious rip-off.

Daniel.
 

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BurtonCCC said:
Yes, but in this case, where it looks like VAF took the Hi-Fi, painted it black, and moved the speakers around, it's an obvious rip-off.
No disagreement there. Just think that we will see similar situations soon.
 

pknz

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Hmm and yet Apples' still looks better. Their photocopiers are still not up to standard.
 

After G

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Do the holes for the bass really make a speaker sound better?

Because Microsoft looks to be missing those ... especially with such a thin form factor.
 

Superdrive

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sushi said:
With the Zune coming out, we will probably see all kinds of iPod type accessories adapted for the Zune.
It aught to be interesting to see if the Zune will be able to stir up an ecosystem the size of the iPod's today. Of course, there is no good way to predict it. I suspect Sushi is on the right track in guessing this is not the last look-a-like we see.
 

archurban

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MS come on! well, I don't have any words to say or judge here. just a big disappointment what MS has done. zune is not even their product. they just borrowed entire hardware from Toshiba 'gigabit', then modified UI, created music store 'marketplace'. in the end, what's left? nothing. now, they copied ipod hifi? materials, sound would be crap, too. I really hate it. they have tried so many things, pocking around. yeah, game seems to be successful. it's just lucky. I think that MS need to be focused on game business. it's enough.

p.s. I just look around octavio. there is no specification. good play MS.
 

dirtydebbling

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hi fi rip off??

Not sure which planet you guys have been living on for the last 100 years, but speakers generally work by having a cone of some material, along with a big magnet across back, where by the laws of physics come into play when an electrical charge is applied to the speaker driver assembly - so yes, if you pull the covers off of any speaker - they are all going to look like the ipod hifi.

apart from this Zune Octavio thing having drivers (like every other speaker in the ENTIRE world), and that the ZUNE docks in the top, i don't see many other similarites at all. For one, it looks like it's about double the size of the HI-FI, and looks like it's about a third of the depth? and it's all black. And doesn't have ports for the unit to breath.

From a design point of view, what exactly is it apple will sue about? that MS has made a speaker? Oh my, apple better get on the phone to EVERY speaker dock manufacturer in the world immediatly, since they all use speaker drivers. and have devices the dock into them. Apple might have more luck with their rediculous attempt to try and trademark the word 'pod' that they are attempting at the moment.

C'mon guys, seriously, this thing looks nothing like the hi fi, and there is NOTHING apple can sure for.
 

Jeonat

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dirtydebbling said:
Not sure which planet you guys have been living on for the last 100 years, but speakers generally work by having a cone of some material, along with a big magnet across back, where by the laws of physics come into play when an electrical charge is applied to the speaker driver assembly - so yes, if you pull the covers off of any speaker - they are all going to look like the ipod hifi.

apart from this Zune Octavio thing having drivers (like every other speaker in the ENTIRE world), and that the ZUNE docks in the top, i don't see many other similarites at all. For one, it looks like it's about double the size of the HI-FI, and looks like it's about a third of the depth? and it's all black. And doesn't have ports for the unit to breath.

From a design point of view, what exactly is it apple will sue about? that MS has made a speaker? Oh my, apple better get on the phone to EVERY speaker dock manufacturer in the world immediatly, since they all use speaker drivers. and have devices the dock into them. Apple might have more luck with their rediculous attempt to try and trademark the word 'pod' that they are attempting at the moment.

C'mon guys, seriously, this thing looks nothing like the hi fi, and there is NOTHING apple can sure for.
Yeah, I agree. It's just another all-in-one speaker system. So they look fairly similar - who cares? They have the same parts in them so by nature they'd have to look fairly similar - or are you suggesting Apple sues all speaker manufacturers now? All the other speaker manufacturers have their satellites, subwoofers and all-in-one's looking the same, Apple will just have to live with it.

In my personal opinion, the Hi-Fi is ugly looking and M$ should have chosen a different design. But it just means I won't buy it. It's up to them.

And if the Zune is a better product than the Hi-Fi - well that's just Apple's fault for lacking insight when implementing it. Or are you suggesting Apple sues people who make better products than they do.

Please... :rolleyes:
 

Killyp

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After G said:
Do the holes for the bass really make a speaker sound better?
Depends really...

[nerd]
Bass ports make louder bass, but they prevent really significant extension and slow the sound down quite a lot. IMHO, vents are better left alone unless you really need them.
[/nerd]

Also, the Microsoft system has tweeters which will sound better than the iPod hifi's large cone drivers, which never really work very well as high frequency drivers.