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iPod Zune Pricing and Shipping Announced.

I still hope (wish) the widescreen ipod is coming before the end of October and priced at $499.
I think Apple did not announce it yet so people would start buying the regular ipods first. Then the major announcement comes right before the xmass season.
Let's see. If not then, I'll be buying the regular one.
 
stainlessliquid said:
heres a video of the Zune in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4sZNqD_YWI

I must say the GUI outclasses the outdated one Apple has been sticking with. I hope Apple comes up with something new soon since theres really no way to beat the click wheel for scrolling through songs, something like the new album flip thing in itunes would be cool on an ipod.
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I'm thinking that they'll impliment a few different GUI's like iTunes 7. Maybe have classic, CoverFlow and a Front Row style interface. Something like the iTV interface, a combination between FR and CoverFlow, would look very cool on my black 5G.
 
Wait a second...

stainlessliquid said:
heres a video of the Zune in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4sZNqD_YWI

I must say the GUI outclasses the outdated one Apple has been sticking with.
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It looks to me like the Zune "Click wheel" is nothing of the sort. Did anyone else notice that the user is pressing on the wheel to navigate through the media list, not moving the thumb around in a circular motion?

Am I crazy? Is that how they got around the patent?
 
Its just a d-pad like on cell phones, its not pretending to be a click wheel. Its round because that looks better design wise than to have an ugly cross. Obviously Apple wont let any other company use that "crank" like method of scrolling, which is the best possible way of scrolling through songs.
 
I saw a picture of Zune on BBC, and it looks like an uninspired piece of crap. I won't buy that even if my life depended on it.
 
i think apples real problem right now isn't the Zune, but the lack of innovation in the new ipods. they still havent changed much in over a year and the public is getting tired of it. unless they innovate the ipod will lose its "cool" factor faster than you can say annodized aluminum.
 
I'm not sure if it's a good idea for Microsoft to go after the high-end iPod market when right now the vast majority of iPod sales are for the nano and Shuffle models.

I wouldn't be surprised that Apple releases a 16 GB flash memory iPod nano by January 2007 and lowers the prices of the 2 GB, 4 GB and 8 GB models to really increase sales to keep the Microsoft juggernaut at bay. :)
 
gugy said:
I still hope (wish) the widescreen ipod is coming before the end of October and priced at $499.
I think Apple did not announce it yet so people would start buying the regular ipods first. Then the major announcement comes right before the xmass season.
Let's see. If not then, I'll be buying the regular one.
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Five Hundred for an iPod? I would hope they price it at $399. It seems that the new price points suggest something to fill that spot.
 
mashny said:
They saw the success of the Macintosh GUI [Yes, Apple got it from Xerox but Xerox had done nothing with it for years -- it was a useless technology as far as Xerox was concerned]; they purchased DOS for a song (relatively speaking); they didn't create the spreadsheet, word processor, or presentation application... What they're good at is copying other people's and companies' ideas and using their market power to steal the business -- of Netscaping the competition. It always gets me angry when I see that TV ad about how Microsoft fosters the imagination of young students, allowing them to be whatever they want to be. Perhaps they should create an ad explaining to students the virtues of theft: without other people's ideas to steal, there would be no Microsoft. It is Apple who has always been the innovator, who invents new technologies, who understands the importance of design, who changes and challenges the way people perceive computers, who makes high-quality products that (though more expensive than those in the PC world) work they way they're supposed to...
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A wise man once said that "art is nothing more than cleverly designed theft"

I don't know who said that but it sounds "wise":p
 
believe it or not i think the brown one looks effin bitchin. the UI looks slick as **** too. for a moment i was thinking that if apple doesnt release a widescreen ipod by this holiday season i might buy one. but the lack of itunes support and the **** DRM management blow the deal for me. or.... what was that 3rd party media player for xp that seemed so much like an itunes clone?.. ugh.
 
mahonmeister said:
Five Hundred for an iPod? I would hope they price it at $399. It seems that the new price points suggest something to fill that spot.
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yeah, I wish it could be $399, but if this widescreen is amazing and revolutionary, I am pretty sure will cost at least close to $500. $50 difference would kill the ipod 80gig. That's why I expect it to be way more.
First of all let's hope will come this year.
 
aldo said:
I don't think that's true. Only on songs you buy (off the zune marketplace) have that problem. Any of your own songs (ie: 99% which are downloaded or ripped from CDs) are totally DRM free and you can swap as much as you like.
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It won't work that way, methinks, only photos and M$-DRM'ed stuff will be able to be transfered, probably also as a security mesure, to prevent nasty stuff from spreading through the air. The only advantage would be if both had the subscription, which lets you keep the music you get.


On a side note, I don't really hate the Zune, but I do hate all those backstabbing marketing tricks M$ has and will pull:
The 79 points, which are in fact 99 cents
The "widescreen" screen with 4:3 resolution
The scrollwheel that doesn't scroll
And the wireless function, that doesn't really do it
 
I'm quite concerned about this. Look at xbox and what they did there in the gaming market. They are going to bulldoze their way in by throwing tons of money around. Seeing that they are selling Zune at a loss, I think this is what they are going to do for the first couple of years.
 
"Zune, of course, provides no Mac compatibility"

I wouldn't buy one anyway, but Microsoft along with ALL OTHER COMPANIES that dismiss the Mac/Apple can kiss my @#$%. My blood pressure rises to the top at companies that choose to overlook the Mac when it comes to software development and or designing a device with no Mac compatibility. A device with no Mac compatibility such as the Zune is just another complete perfect example of 100% pure stupidity at the highest of levels. Go Microsoft you stupid idiots and take the Zune with you. And the "Zune"???? Who at Microsoft thought that was a good name? The janitor? If I ever win the the Lottery, I will buy Microsoft and shut it down. Way down.

Ben
 
you mean November 13th? it's Monday. 14th is Tuesday. it's Zune official release date. if Apple really wants to kick MS a**, they will do it in the same week. we will see what'll be happened. it will be fun.
 
skochan said:
I'm predicting Apple will announce their full-screen iPod the day before MS releases Zune.
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I assume your vast intellectual grasp of product profiling wasn't tapped into when you made this prediction.:rolleyes:

One-upmanship on this scale where screensize matters is imbecillic. Conceptually, Zune is not a case of one aesthetic product vs. another; it's the beginning of a small eco-culture of home-based services that MS want to push out.

There is a bigger picture here and it's not on the front of the MP3 players.
 
If the past M$ products are any indication, I think the Zune will be hacked hard and fast.

As most of us think, it is likely that the WiFi feature will be very restricted, but I think people will figure out a way to transfer whatever they wish, including non-DRM songs.

The next step, of course, is to hack the DRM itself. It was mentioned that the Zune and its Marketplace would not use the Plays-For-Sure DRM, but instead another new proprietary M$ DRM.

It is pretty clear to me that M$ non-officially supports and eases the piracy of its software to spread them further. Someone will eventually find a work-around to the M$/Zune DRM.

These hacks would add functionality to the Zune and make it more attractive, but perhaps also more vulnerable to malicious exploits...

It will be interesting to see how everything plays out!
 
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