Zym Blog graphic

Discussion in 'Design and Graphics' started by TheZimm, Dec 24, 2008.

  1. TheZimm macrumors 6502a

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    I was wondering if this was better than the older one I posted, I tryed to find that thread but couldn't find it.

    [​IMG]

    Zym
     
  2. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    Its way way too busy. The script font alone is a little tough to read, when you add the grey shapes to the background its especially busy. I think you should just focus on the type first then worry about putting it on some kind of background or composition. Also, the script Z reads as a stylized 3, maybe its just me.
     
  3. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Heres my revision, I'm new to graphic design and want to get an eye for a good pic, so all criticism is accepted

    [​IMG]

    Zym
     
  4. dcubed20 macrumors member

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    why is there an iphone? is the blog about iphones?

    and the background shouldn't be part of a logo, since the idea of a logo is that it can be adapted and transplanted easily to different uses.
     
  5. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yup, its an iphone app reviewing site. So do you think the first or secind is better, I feel the first is

    Zym
     
  6. tominated macrumors 68000

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    does it have to have a script font, because it doesn't really seem right for an iphone app review website
     
  7. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    stop worrying about a background or what you can put the type on. Start with a simple B/W font. Use illustrator to combine/manipulate fonts to make your logo. You need to think about what people think when they see your "zym blog". I honestly would never see it and think of an iPhone app review. Do some research on logo design. Dont steal others designs, but see what works and what makes them successful. I would stay away from the script, zym isnt a common word already, so to use a stylized font doesnt help.
     
  8. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Aight, thanks for all the criticism

    Heres what I got, let me know what you think(btw those are app icons in the background on the iphone):
     

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  9. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    Why are you still trying it with color and putting it in a composition? I would recommend using illustrator and manipulating a font or fonts to create a typeface. Once you get a good logo in B/W (just the type) then you can worry about adding color and putting it in a composition.
     
  10. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    You seem fixated on putting your type inside of an iPhone. My advice is to try ten different concepts that do not involve an iPhone, but do somehow relate to iPhone Apps and reviewing.

    Secondly, please start with black and white. This will help you concentrate on the form of the logo. Once you're fairly confident with that, then you can start adding color. And I would also suggest using a very limited palette when you do add color.

    A logo needs to fundamentally be legible without having to stare at it to decipher it. Crazy backgrounds and spectrums really detract from that.
     
  11. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Okay, black and white got it(well at least in 2 the other one has a gradient background);
    Try without the iPhone, got it(well at least in two)
    I think I did everything you guys said, here are the products:

    1:
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    2:
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    3:
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    Zym
     
  12. chilipie macrumors 6502a

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    It's not really a logo though, is it? Type only logos can look fantastic when done well, but that just looks shoddy - there's nothing in the text that implies it's related to iPhones/apps/whatever.
     
  13. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thats a really good point. I've been looking at some other logos etc. and heres what I came up with.

    [​IMG]

    Zym
     
  14. JasonElise1983 macrumors 6502a

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    hmmm...well, i'm not trying to be an a$$ but, have you ever designed a logo/blog header before? I mean to me, you are just pasting type and other elements together and using every photoshop effect you can think of and then Voilá!...done. ok, so i took 5 minutes and threw something together to give you an idea of something that would look more polished. I'm not saying to use this or even try to replicate this. This was 5 Minutes, and is not that good or clever, or even slightly creative. But it's alright, and to me gets the point across a lot faster.


    If i were you, i would start with just type, see how intersting the word Zym would be on it's own, or if it looks good run together with different weights. ZYMBLOG or zymblog. Try clean and simple san serifs. Try to stay away from cheesy photo filters. Think of what a review place is about. Maybe it's a series of stars. Maybe it's 4 stars in clossy "app" boxes that sit on a dock like backround. Rating...Apps...iPhone. Don't use a picture of an iPhone, that's pretty lame. I also would stay away from showing certain apps in the header, do you have permission to use their artwork? do you have permission to associate your blog with their app? i'm sure that's a "no". Anyway, try a lot of things....

    -je
     

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  15. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Okay,

    I've never done anything like this. I was just taught how to use photoshop a couple of years ago, so i would use it just to fix up some pics, never create something. Here I have tryed to take your advice, and you weren't being an a$$, I need the criticism =]

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  16. xtrmntr13 macrumors newbie

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    zym yours isnt too bad just second one look weird with the 3d effect

    ok this is just a simple try (took me 10min)
    it features the colours of the app store and these small scroll dots from the touch

    xtrmntr
     

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  17. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    I will say you are def moving in the right direction, still not their yet. One thing I noticed from all your ideas is you are trying to squeeze 10lbs of sh*@
    in a 5lbs bag. I would focus on the words Zym Blog, dont worry about the tagline or anything else just yet. I also noticed you are trying to work in some app icons. Why not make your own app icon to go along with your logo.
     
  18. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    okay, so I think this looks better than the other version, I c=hanged the text a little that says "Zym Blog", I centered the stars a little more, and I put the phrase on the top, I think that it seems a bit less cramped up there.

    Also, I made a little mock up that took me like 30 seconds literally, and was just wondering if I should continue this way for my own icon.

    Thanks for all the feedback

    Zym
     

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  19. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    no offense, but it looks like it took you 30secs. why dont you sketch some ideas and put some effort into it.
     
  20. xtrmntr13 macrumors newbie

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    just stay away from the 30sec stuff ... try to think what others will thing your blog might be about if they see one of your logos.
    Somehow you have to connect it to the app store, but dont squeeze in too much
     
  21. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Okay so is the logo good?

    Also, heres an icon I spent a lot more time on =]

    The text doesn't look good to me at all, I just don't know how to put it on there better, I dont know what color to do etc.

    Zym
     

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  22. jdl8422 macrumors 6502

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    Once again you didn't listen to what everyone has told you. Stop worrying about color and the iPhone image. Just work on the typeface. Try a little more than just typing the word Zym Blog and picking a typeface. Try combing type faces, combing different weights, modifying the typefaces in illustrator, create your own custom type. Do not worry about some gradient photoshop effect or putting the type in something. Try and get your logo to work on its own, in black on a white background. I think people will start to get frustrated when they give you advice then you just put another idea on here without using that advice.
     
  23. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    okay, yeah true, sorry. I tryed messin around with the typefaces and made half black and the other white(I could change colors later to my site's colors)
     

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  24. JasonElise1983 macrumors 6502a

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    Closer. But I personaly don't see any relevance to an iPhone or it's apps now. You don't need an iPhone or a piece of an iPhone, but with a name like zymblog, it needs to be recognizable as a blog about iPhone apps, or have a better name. Look at what other iPhone related blogs did.

    Appshopper.com
    Toucharcade.com

    Those two don't need obvious iPhone relation because of the relation in the name. Your name has nothing to do with it, so it is going to need some kind of iPhone or iPhone app or app strore relation. Look at the fonts used with these devices. Helvetica neue is the system font on the iPhone. Myriad pro (or something very similar) is apple's marketing and product font. Try playing with some modification on those. Or you could do something simple like a solid black circle with a white rounded corner square in the center to mimic the home button, and them in a real clean font write zymblog in like helvetica neue bold and light or myriad pro regular and light.

    Things I would stay away from:
    Picture of an iPhone
    App icons
    Apple logo
    Icons that have no relevance.

    I hope that helps.

    -je
     
  25. TheZimm thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I took your exact advice, "zymblog in like...myriad pro regular and light." Also, I looked at those icons and saw how their pretty similar to their logo, so I made the icon similar to the logo(with the slide thing), also I made one with a home button like look.

    I think I'm getting a hang of what a good design looks like, now that I look back at some they look really bad =]

    Zym
     

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