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Apple's New 8-Core Mac Pro Shows Up in Benchmarks
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Great to see some Mac news on the front page of Mac Rumors. 
My ancient Mac Pro 1,1 has been running like a Windows machine today. It's obviously picked up the vibes that it'll soon be in the computer graveyard (the loft) along with assorted PC's, an Amiga 4000, and old Amiga 500, Commodore 64 and ZX-81 parts that I never got around to chucking out.
Come on Apple, release the Darth Mac!
I agree with a previous comment - I can't see it coming out until Mavericks is with us and that'll be another 4 weeks (at least) and even then it could be another month before we can get our hands on the new Pro.
My Mac Pro 1,1 will no doubt be running slower than a Commodore Vic 20 by then.
My ancient Mac Pro 1,1 has been running like a Windows machine today. It's obviously picked up the vibes that it'll soon be in the computer graveyard (the loft) along with assorted PC's, an Amiga 4000, and old Amiga 500, Commodore 64 and ZX-81 parts that I never got around to chucking out.
Come on Apple, release the Darth Mac!
I agree with a previous comment - I can't see it coming out until Mavericks is with us and that'll be another 4 weeks (at least) and even then it could be another month before we can get our hands on the new Pro.
My Mac Pro 1,1 will no doubt be running slower than a Commodore Vic 20 by then.
It seems that the only time I encounter developers who wouldn't be happy with as much performance as they could possibly get, they're on Macrumors bashing the Mac Pro.
There is no such thing as overkill. Nothing is ever 100% responsive or 100% satisfactory. No matter how fast a Mac gets, Eclipse IDE will spend 30 seconds frozen up doing something, and you'll wish you could shave 10 seconds off that.
A fully decked out Mac mini is a nice developer machine, but it's (maybe) $1000 cheaper than a much higher spec'd 2013 Mac Pro.
New design works for me. I use external thunderbolt devices anyway to transport data to other rigs at various studios. The photo is over-the-top. You'll be able to have the same or greater amount of internal storage depending on your budget. The only real loss is optical drive...and just like we got over the loss of serial cables and RJ11, we'll get over the DVD era too.
I don't know any film producers, composers, or scientists who transport data on DVD in this age. Everything revolves around portable drives and cloud storage. There are rare cases when products (like those from EastWest) require optical devices...thats where a $20 usb DVD drive comes in handy...then, for the rest of its uselessness, back to the closet.
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I don't know any film producers, composers, or scientists who transport data on DVD in this age. Everything revolves around portable drives and cloud storage. There are rare cases when products (like those from EastWest) require optical devices...thats where a $20 usb DVD drive comes in handy...then, for the rest of its uselessness, back to the closet.
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!The largest RAM DIMMs available are 32 GB. So your servers have 48 memory slots?
The only server arrangement in the world that could do this is a completely maxed out AMD Magny-Cours arrangement, because it supports distributed shared memory with 4 CPU sockets and 12 DIMMs per CPU.
Sounds legit
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That's not low end... the processor alone costs $1700:
http://ark.intel.com/products/77912/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v2-25M-Cache-3_00-GHz
This thing looks like a beast, but I just can't get behind the new design. Isn't the best thing about the Pros is the ability to easily add/swap drives? Or easily pop in a new card?
My 'early 2008' MP is still humming along - but when the time comes to replace it I'm just not sure which direction I'll go.
My 'early 2008' MP is still humming along - but when the time comes to replace it I'm just not sure which direction I'll go.
I'm afraid to admit you may be on the money. Add in costs for external Thunderbolt chassises for current Mac Pro internal drives (4x SATA II HDDs, 256GB SSD and an LG Blu-Ray burner), $5K-6K US is pushing it even for pro's. This won't win back many OS X users who jumped ship due to Apple's neglect, it may push more away into Windows or Hackint0sh systems.
OK, for a DP workstation, we are talking about 1TB RAM.
A QP workstation could have more.
It really annoys me to hear people whine about the cost of these machines. First, if you've wanted a new one it's not like you haven't had YEARS to save. Second, they're called a MacPro for a reason...Pro, as in "Professional." Some of us actually use this machine for our livelihood. These machines are the workhorses that get our jobs done quickly and efficiently day-in and day-out. Finally, whatever the cost is, it's easily made back many times over by the job it helps us do and the productivity that is gained with it's speed and stability.
To borrow a pharmaceutical term, if you are using this for gaming it's an "off label" use. You are not the target market. These machines are primarily designed for creative, scientific and IT-related professionals. So, if you choose to use these machines for purposes other than their intended use cases and then whine about, you're not going to find a lot of sympathy here.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my Mac Pro and generating some solid income with it.
To borrow a pharmaceutical term, if you are using this for gaming it's an "off label" use. You are not the target market. These machines are primarily designed for creative, scientific and IT-related professionals. So, if you choose to use these machines for purposes other than their intended use cases and then whine about, you're not going to find a lot of sympathy here.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my Mac Pro and generating some solid income with it.
It really annoys me to hear people whine about the cost of these machines. First, if you've wanted a new one it's not like you haven't had YEARS to save. Second, they're called a MacPro for a reason...Pro, as in "Professional." Some of us actually use this machine for our livelihood. These machines are the workhorses that get our jobs done quickly and efficiently day-in and day-out. Finally, whatever the cost is, it's easily made back many times over by the job it helps us do and the productivity that is gained with it's speed and stability.
To borrow a pharmaceutical term, if you are using this for gaming it's an "off label" use. You are not the target market. These machines are primarily designed for creative, scientific and IT-related professionals. So, if you choose to use these machines for purposes other than their intended use cases and then whine about, you're not going to find a lot of sympathy here.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my Mac Pro and generating some solid income with it.
It is legit to complain about the cost when the only viable option is Intel.
Oh, you can count on that. This is Apple we're talking about. I suspect they will also announce a 4K cinema display at the same time. The price will surely cause heart attacks...
This machine is for the future, not the past. I want to see the OpenCL benchmarks! And read/write tests on the new SSDs. Any time a Mac Pro thread gets to 3 pages without mentioning OpenCL or GPGPU, we know people are missing the forest for the trees.
P.S. I love how for every one pro who would truly need a huge amount of external devices, there are a hundred white knights who have NO such need, bravely leaping to defend them from evil Apple
The two things Apple should NEVER do if they want to keep people happy: keep things the same, or change them.
P.P.S. I'm going to make "real manly gamers" furious by gaming on my Mac Pro Without the bother of Boot Camp OR buying a separate machine (console included) All that work power IS going to get to play as well!
P.S. I love how for every one pro who would truly need a huge amount of external devices, there are a hundred white knights who have NO such need, bravely leaping to defend them from evil Apple
The two things Apple should NEVER do if they want to keep people happy: keep things the same, or change them.
P.P.S. I'm going to make "real manly gamers" furious by gaming on my Mac Pro
Without the bother of Boot Camp OR buying a separate machine (console included) All that work power IS going to get to play as well!If a subscription to Creative Cloud was sold through the App Store, I wonder if that would be the top app.
It really annoys me to hear people whine about the cost of these machines. First, if you've wanted a new one it's not like you haven't had YEARS to save. Second, they're called a MacPro for a reason...Pro, as in "Professional." Some of us actually use this machine for our livelihood. These machines are the workhorses that get our jobs done quickly and efficiently day-in and day-out. Finally, whatever the cost is, it's easily made back many times over by the job it helps us do and the productivity that is gained with it's speed and stability.
To borrow a pharmaceutical term, if you are using this for gaming it's an "off label" use. You are not the target market. These machines are primarily designed for creative, scientific and IT-related professionals. So, if you choose to use these machines for purposes other than their intended use cases and then whine about, you're not going to find a lot of sympathy here.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my Mac Pro and generating some solid income with it.
Thank you. I constantly have to explain this to friends. I spent the money I did on my MBP for a reason; it gets the job done and it does it well.
Stop there a moment. Yes, it is a system many depend on for their living, that does not mean we should wait 3+ years for a smaller desktop system with limited internal storage, swapping and upgradability for what appears to be a much higher price point. Apple has already lost a great deal of the professional market after ditching their stellar and well regarded 3 tiered anti-glare CCFL LCD's for 1 iMac based LCD LED riddled with known quality issues, lack of a serious update for years, and pushing out Blu-Ray. The film industry/professionals still depend on Blu-Ray as finished projects far exceed the ability for "cloud"/internet use (I chucked when someone suggested this). Perhaps we should give our clients external drives for completed projects? Actual pro's have every right to justify concerns, dismissing them as "whining" either means you are not in this market and/or lack the knowledge necessary for objective criticism and concern.
Lastly, whining about such comments is getting tired. Either add something genuine to the debate or move along.
i figure i'll just hollow out an old Mac Pro or SGI box and put the new Mac Pro and all of it's attachments in there. it's the hot rodder in me.
