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Steve Jobs on Lack of Custom Wallpapers in iOS 4 for iPhone 3G
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Are you new to these forums? It's full of people that actually think Apple cares about them.
I put the phone on a table and took a picture of nothing, then used that. I wish it had a 'no background' button because unless it's smart enough to figure out my black background is really black, then it's probably rendering invisible shadows on the icons I don't need and slowing the phone down. Backgrounds under the icons was ugly, not providing a black background was stupid, not providing a no-background option was ridiculous.
Waiting for 4.1.
Before jumping on the 'Gah! BS!!1' bandwagon here, I'm curious about something: how did previous backgrounds work out with the text effects? It is possible that changes made to text in the new OS could have resulted in this outcome. I've always jailbroken my devices, but I never bothered with backgrounds on my 3G.
That, and I don't have much reason to disbelieve this. The alternative is, to some degree, believing that some Apple executive [imagine sinister undertones] muttered: "Bwe-he-he, deny them backgrounds—it will make them want the iPhone 4 or iPhone 3GS enough to go out and get another!"
That, and I don't have much reason to disbelieve this. The alternative is, to some degree, believing that some Apple executive [imagine sinister undertones] muttered: "Bwe-he-he, deny them backgrounds—it will make them want the iPhone 4 or iPhone 3GS enough to go out and get another!"
Or you could just cover the iPhone camera and take a picture. Voila. Black image on your camera roll.
Are you new to this world? How old are you? Read about the technical limitations first why don't you.
What tryin to say is that web my original iPhone was jailbroken, it wasn't much slower than what it wa on stock firmware.
I'm also trying to say that if I enable bakeounder on my original iPhone an background an app like messages, it launches messages faster than my 3GS. But that's because the 3GS was in iOS 3.1.3 and didn't has multitasking.
In short the Original iPhone can relaunch an app that was need quitter faster than a 3GS launching an app from scratch.
Yes the 3GS is faster than the 3G and Original iPhone, but I'm noting apps like settings an iPod are taking longer to open, but once you hit the home button, they go into fast app swiching so it's quicker.
When my Original Ophir was on 3.1.3 an jailbroken it has backrounding (multitasking), MMS, video recording, and wallpaper on the home screen, and it didn't lag as much as my brothers iPhone 3G on thr stock not jaimbroken iOS 4.0
So many ignorant people here. Have you ever jailbroke your iPhone? Well I have! And it runs like crap on my 3GS! So maybe actually do some research before you start coming up with conspiracy theories.
Before, if you had a lot of white in your wallpaper, your icons and text would simply blend in and disappear. It was awful. You basically had to make sure that your wallpaper was primarily a dark color if you wanted to see or read what was on your home screen. The new "ClearType" effect on the text is a very welcome change.
The new iPhone has a higher resolution screen and that would help the icons and their labels be better defined against a random background. It's higher quality and Apple is simply declining to offer a down-rezed version of that experience for older phones. They could have offered custom backgrounds originally and if the screen you're holding hasn't changed why would Apple change how they think it should work now?
Technical limitations? Put down the kool aid. We've had custom wallpaper on our JB phones for years now without any performance hit to speak of. Get a clue.
I jailbroke my iPod Touch 2G, and I pretty much only used it for two reasons. Backgrounding and wallpapers. That's it! Nothing else crazy, no additional things like lock screen hacks or whatever. I also had the NES application on there, but nothing else from Cydia.
Even without running apps in the background, there would be times when the iPod would stutter or not even display the animation when going from an app to the home screen when pressing the home button.
I can see the point... but now I have a iPod Touch 3G so whatevs!
Even without running apps in the background, there would be times when the iPod would stutter or not even display the animation when going from an app to the home screen when pressing the home button.
I can see the point... but now I have a iPod Touch 3G so whatevs!
Speaking of ignorant, do a quick search on which tiny little file you need to edit to make it not run like crap. It's not hard.
Am I the only 3g owner who has found iOS 4 much, much quicker than the last firmware. I was starting to get really frustrated with the the lag in the 3.x. It seems to be completely resolved. I did restore the phone from scratch so that may have helped as well. Perhaps you all should try the same.
It didn't take long...
It didn't take long for the bitching about freakin wallpapers to populate this thread...
For those saying Jobs just want you to buy the new iPhone... Of course he does. Duh? Hello?! He's also a businessman and he runs a businessman. If you're running Apple or any business for that matter of course you want consumers to buy your new stuff.
For those saying Apple is about $$$.. Of course they are. Duh? Hello?! Who goes into business and not think about making $?
Like it or not it's all business in the end. That's exactly why most of us here are just consumers and Steve Jobs is a billionaire. If he thought like a consumer without regards to business then Apple would be bankrupt by now.
It didn't take long for the bitching about freakin wallpapers to populate this thread...
For those saying Jobs just want you to buy the new iPhone... Of course he does. Duh? Hello?! He's also a businessman and he runs a businessman. If you're running Apple or any business for that matter of course you want consumers to buy your new stuff.
For those saying Apple is about $$$.. Of course they are. Duh? Hello?! Who goes into business and not think about making $?
Like it or not it's all business in the end. That's exactly why most of us here are just consumers and Steve Jobs is a billionaire. If he thought like a consumer without regards to business then Apple would be bankrupt by now.
This is actually a valid reason. IIRC, the drop shadow effect is rendered via OpenGL ES 2.0, and this is only supported by the PowerVR SGX chip, which is only in the 3GS and the latest gen iPod Touches. It has nothing to do with displaying the image (the wallpaper) itself, it's the drop shadow effect that the icons have on top of the wallpaper. Apple could have probably just left off the drop shadow on older devices, but then people would be bitching because the 3GS and newer models "looked better" than the older models.
I'm sure there's a bit of truth in what Jobs is saying but Apple could have at least coded it both ways and left it off by default and let users turn it on. Of course "mother knows best" so we don't get the option.
I'm on a 3GS and would have liked to see it both ways but that's not an option now. You're not exactly running a game in the background here. It would be interesting to hear from any game developers on how taxing this would be but seeing some of the games on the app store run on the original iPhone, I gotta call partial BS.
I'm on a 3GS and would have liked to see it both ways but that's not an option now. You're not exactly running a game in the background here. It would be interesting to hear from any game developers on how taxing this would be but seeing some of the games on the app store run on the original iPhone, I gotta call partial BS.
I completely agree... Mine has been monumentally faster... I wiped my phone and performed a complete reset. Then restored my phone and it worked perfectly. Much faster and I am very happy, even without backgrounds!
it feels fast for me as well...
iPhone 3G going to be hands me down product or sold second hand and iOS 4.0 probably the last update apple going to provide (like 2G this year).
my bet lot care about background image than unified inbox, that is my take.
can't say the same. i STILL have an original iphone. i've used every iOS from 1 through 3. they all gave me an increase in performance as well as additional features.
that said, i'm still not buying an iPhone 4, because i'm looking down the road and see that in about a years time it too will be outdated as it only has 16 and 32 gig of storage and it does not appear to be 4g data capable
The BT keyboard is a technical hardware restriction - the older BT antennae can't do it - it's not a limit of software.
I'm not going to bother talking about the other stuff.
another trick from apple to upsell
vote negative please
As somebody who has jailbroken their iPhone 3G and played around with it with wallpapers disabled then enabled, I can confirm that the animation feels more sluggish with wallpapers enabled. He's not ********ting you.
Do you guys honestly believe this is a tactic to get people to upgrade? If you believe that you must believe that people are willing to shell out hundreds of pounds/dollars/whatever, just to get wallpapers that they never had before anyway.
Regardless of whether the older devices can handle it or not (I think it sounds ridiculous the thing can run 3D games but can't do some simple animation over a static image, but hey-ho... ) Apple are silly over things like this, when if they gave users the option, and we found we agreed with Apple that it was better without a background image there would be far less anger and stuff. Why not just bury options like these in an advanced menu and let people decide for themselves?
There is no conspiracy!
RAM. iPhone 3G does not have enough of it. After the OS is loaded, apps get ~20MB of RAM to work with. The feature may seam trivial, but the data would always need to be in memory and could cut the available resources for apps by 15% or more.
GPU. It is not adept at transparencies. Even if you sacrifice the RAM, the performance would make switching pages in the launcher look like an older Android.
Frankly the harm caused by including the feature far out-weighs any benefit.
Yes, Apple holds your hand on the iOS devices. If you allowed the option for every performance sapping feature, people would turn them on and blame Apple when the performance sucks and apps crash from lack of resources. And they should blame Apple. If a device can not adequately run a feature, it should not be an option.
BTW - I wish people would stop complaining that a flagship device from 2010 has more features then one from 2008.
RAM. iPhone 3G does not have enough of it. After the OS is loaded, apps get ~20MB of RAM to work with. The feature may seam trivial, but the data would always need to be in memory and could cut the available resources for apps by 15% or more.
GPU. It is not adept at transparencies. Even if you sacrifice the RAM, the performance would make switching pages in the launcher look like an older Android.
Frankly the harm caused by including the feature far out-weighs any benefit.
Yes, Apple holds your hand on the iOS devices. If you allowed the option for every performance sapping feature, people would turn them on and blame Apple when the performance sucks and apps crash from lack of resources. And they should blame Apple. If a device can not adequately run a feature, it should not be an option.
BTW - I wish people would stop complaining that a flagship device from 2010 has more features then one from 2008.