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$499 Headless iMac?

Little Endian said:
Apple would be smart to drop prices of their LCD line or offer a smaller cheaper LCD option or else everyone buying this Sub $600 mac will get some other brand of LCD to use with this cheap mac. Imagine how many monitors Apple could sell if this sub $600 Mac takes off. Perhaps Apple should also offer a Sub $500 17" LCD as an option with this machine or if not drop the price of a 20" Cinema Display to under $1000. Apple's cheapest display offering is at $1299 and I doubt anyone would spend that much too complement a Sub $600 box. If Apple does not have an affordable monitor offering all those possible sales will be lost to competitors.
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Wonder if they dropped the 17" Cinema out of the line for a reason - perhaps to use the panels for an accesory for this unit?

Eh, doubt it, but I cannot imagine them offering a budget machine liek this without a monitor option, huh? :confused:
 
budugu said:
May be you might want to pay attention to what others say to save you from all emotional trauma that you have to go through talking about non mac products. I was says YOU CAN GENERATE PDF FILES NOT READ! EVERYBODY KNOWES ABOUT ACROBAT READER. and whole suit of basic photo etc apps.
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the emotional trauma was using a stupid PC getting a blue window in the middle of a transaction and loosing 16, 748 dollars that i don't have and cannot recuperate in this lifeform, at least not the very same $16748.

That amount will hunt me everytime i stare at a winblows machine and Gid forbid the day this webpage lets me use bad words cause after the day the STUPID PC made me loose that amount of money, for me it is a lot, i started collecting all the bad words i could learn in order to attend to a Microcock party.
 
billyboy said:
As a random Brit, I really dont get all the mirth over iCabod. Not wishing to sound like Margo Leadbetter from the Good Life (classic British comedy show character) but What's so funny? Please explain the joke.:(
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iCabod (or iChabod, as one poster put it) refers to Ichabod Crane, who encountered the Headless Horseman in Washington Irving's famous short story, "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow."

(Therefore, this would like calling Dr. Frankenstein's monster "Frankenstein," as so many erroneously do, but I digress... ;) )
 
Balin64 said:
Who in these forums used the very first version of Aldus PageMaker to create a publication? Exactly. You upstarts know nothing...

The best value for price Mac I have ever owned was an SE 30. Ask anyone you young whipper snappers.
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The first version of Aldus PageMaker didn't support multiple pages, so you couldn't do a publication on it (unless you created a file for each page). The SE 30 was for pretty boy weenies who couldn't create on a 68000 and needed the crutch of the twice-the-power 16MHz 68030 to make up for their artistic shortcomings.
 
Rootman said:
The first version of Aldus PageMaker didn't support multiple pages, so you couldn't do a publication on it (unless you created a file for each page). The SE 30 was for pretty boy weenies who couldn't create on a 68000 and needed the crutch of the twice-the-power 16MHz 68030 to make up for their artistic shortcomings.
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Rootman, you've got my vote for official MacRumors comedian. The last two quips (this one and the one directed at me) were golden.

I went to www.dummies.com to try and buy your book, but it seems they've sold out of them. :)
 
MOSR

I want to give MOSR the benefit of the doubt. They haven't had much useful info in a long time (mostly guesses, repeats of rumors from last week, and "reader mail") but they USED to have some good sources and real scoops a few years ago--and if they don't anymore, I can hardly blame them for trying to keep going in the hopes of things improving. After all, AppleInsider had a LONG dry spell, and now it has become a pretty good source again. So every so often I check MOSR to see if things are picking up there. I wish them luck: one more GOOD rumor site would be nice.

But their headless iMac report--which came AFTER TS and AI's reports--really goes too far:


A cheap, headless Mac is something we've discussed in great detail over the past year.

Well, it looks like the rest of the grapevine is beginning to catch up....
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Then they quote the specs seen on ThinkSecret, without mentioning TS. And they say that these new details "largely match up with what we have been reporting on for some time now." (Although MOSR has not been commenting on anything like that for a long time!)

Then they mention the iPod speakers without giving credit to AppleInsider!

Hmmm... I guess MOSR "scooped" the other sites :rolleyes:

Oh well, I hope they take a turn for the better one day, but I'll stick with MacRumors, TS, and AI.
 
one day out of the forums (thanks to my over-sensible stomach... i had to stay in bed with only drinking tea... not very nice) and i miss a headless apple rumour... ;)

seriously if i could get an apple pc for 500 € (including tax) then screw the missing expandability ,the "glorious" geforce 5200 and low number of usb ports

BTO it with bigger HD (and perhaps wireless), install additional ram myself ,get additional hardware i need (2 button-mouse, ISDN,USb hub etc) and i'm done

and the best part i already have enough money on my bank account because i was saving up money for an ibook ;)

boy if this rumour is true i might be able to buy my first apple earlier than i thought and might be dancing in joy few months away from now (like someone posted before i doubt it will ship without tiger)
 
name

s10 said:
MacBase
iBase

or
i-Apple?
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I'd go for iBox or iTV and hope it connects to all types of TVs (HD and analog) and that Apple somehow solves the computer monitor/TV resolution differences that make it currently impossible to read small computer text on a TV.
 
budugu said:
May be you might want to pay attention to what others say to save you from all emotional trauma that you have to go through talking about non mac products. I was says YOU CAN GENERATE PDF FILES NOT READ! EVERYBODY KNOWES ABOUT ACROBAT READER. and whole suit of basic photo etc apps.
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What you don't seem to know about Macs is that OSX not only reads but GENERATES PDFs without Acrobat.
 
Good business machine

For those businesses tired of fighting viruses, spyware, malware, trojan horses, etc. the headless imac at $599 is a smart choice
 
I just have to jump in on the GHz debate. If the unit comes with anything over 1GHz I think it will be fine for the target audience. I use a 867MHz G4 in my 12" powerbook every day and find it more than adequate for everything I do (email, web, Word, Photoshop, Quicktime movies, compiling code). I even have an old 400MHz powerbook running my web sites (two of them) and acting as a sort of media PC (it's hooked up to my plasma display and uses a Keyspan IR remote).

So I think 1.25GHz G4 would be fine. If I get one for my AV rack, it will be a 3 fold increase in processor speed over what I have now and 50% more than the laptop I use 8+ hours every day.
 
Xtremehkr said:
Wow, look at all of the comments, I wonder if this would sell or not?

The "buzz" is iPod worthy.
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no doubt that it would sell like hot cakes (if true)...

how many complained that the ipod mini won't sell or the imac G5 ?

and yet in this thread fewer people are 'complaining' ;)

looks like a good sign (i'm only half through this thread...and i skipped the longer posts)
 
The perfect name?

iWhosYourDaddy

ooooo no better......

iMacsYourDaddy :D

Because when PC users start buying this thing in record numbers that's what Apple is going to be saying to Dell and the like. Yah ya admittedly there simply is no way for Apple to meet demands like Dell can but it would, and hopefully should be interesting.


In retrospect we should have all seen this coming. When Apple offered the iPod Mini at a reduced price over previous versions of the iPod it demonstrated a shift in their "catering to the high end" mentality. If Apple can appreciate the virtues of a cheaper low end device this could be a brave new era for Apple. Where they thrash the crap out of their competitors because price is no longer as big of an issue. At at least I can hope can't I? :cool:
 
nagromme said:
Hmmm... I guess MOSR "scooped" the other sites :rolleyes:

Oh well, I hope they take a turn for the better one day, but I'll stick with MacRumors, TS, and AI.
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Don't even reward MOSR with your clicks. It's a joke.
 
veedubdrew said:
Does anybody else see this as a sign of less expensive displays? Surely Apple doesn't expect a switcher to walk into an Apple Store and take home this new $499 box hitched to a $1299 display.
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I would bet that, for Window's switchers, they're aiming at people who already own a monitor (there aren't many all in one Windows machines, are there?). Heck, I have an old 400 MHz G4 Tower w/a VGA monitor hooked up to it--so this would be a great upgrade. My family uses it for e-mail, web surfing, MS Office stuff, so a 1.25 GHz G4 would be a great improvement! For an old Windows person, even Virtual PC would be OK (I assume it would emulate something like a 500-600 Mhz Pentium)--meaning about the same speed as their old machine. For a little extra $$, they could add a KVM switch and share their Mac with their old machine, although I'm not sure if that target audience could handle/understand a KVM switch…
 
mcdawson said:
I would bet that, for Window's switchers, they're aiming at people who already own a monitor (there aren't many all in one Windows machines, are there?).
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No doubt. I mean most Windows users already have a monitor since they already have a computer. They aren't, unless the thing is REALLY old, going to go out and buy a new monitor for this system. Example. Me. I've got a 20" Dell CRT sitting on my desk. Do you really think I'm going to go out and purchase a new monitor?

Ditto for my mom. She has a 17" Compaq V90. Its a perfectly fine monitor.

That and there is the fact that if they do provide a VGA port it means users can go and purchase a monitor from anywhere else. You can bet that Apple store reps will be pushing the Cinema Display. Apple isn't going to introduce a new monitor simply for a bare bones system.
 
I reckon this would sell well. Very well.

If it did hit the $499 pricepoint (say £350 in the UK) it would be a way into the Mac world for many, would (probably) match iPods and not tie anyone into having to buy the latest and greatest monitor to go with it.

I was going to replace my G3 600 iBook with a new one soon, and taking into account its resale value I would have to spend about this much, if not more. So to then be given the choice of a brand new second Mac instead is most welcome.

And this iBook is running Panther just fine, so how a Mac double the speed could be considered slow I don't quite understand. Other than for the most CPU intensive tasks a 1.x Ghz G4 will do all the average user needs at a decent speed, and those that need that speed won't be entertaining buying one of these anyway.

As for the name, I like the xMac
 
SiliconAddict said:
No doubt. I mean most Windows users already have a monitor since they already have a computer. They aren't, unless the thing is REALLY old, going to go out and buy a new monitor for this system. Example. Me. I've got a 20" Dell CRT sitting on my desk. Do you really think I'm going to go out and purchase a new monitor?

Ditto for my mom. She has a 17" Compaq V90. Its a perfectly fine monitor.
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ditto here

my computer monitor is a 3 year old 17" siemens i got for free
our family computer has a 17" compaq i got for free as well
i've got a 5 year old 17" as a back-up in my room
and a few more 15" in the cellar

my father said he could get a 15" LCD for free if i want one..with this rumour i think i might come back to that offer....
 
Avicdar said:
For Apple to effectively market this machine, they simply need to do what they do best. Market the SOLUTIONS, not the speed.

Show what this machine can do. iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie, Word Pro, surfing, email, etc.

Whenever I see a commercial for Dell on TV selling something at a 'special' price, they just hammer out the specs. They don't tell you what you can do with the machine. I've never asked him, but I am sure that when my dad sees a commercial like this, it goes right over his head. How many times have YOU been asked by a friend to help you spec a machine "I see this one in the paper, is it good?" Apple needs to change this mindset.

Show what it can do. Show people how easy it is. Show the integration of the apps. Offer a 14 day money back guarantee. Bundle in some free instruction to get going for newbies. Include a nice DVD showing people how to use the machine and get the most from it. THIS is the kind of thing Apple does really well.

By the way, speaking of PC commercials on TV, you see the ones lately of the guy who is in bed, and he keeps calling Dell support, checking that someone will be there? He goes through all the holidays and non holidays, and the guy at Dell says someone will always be there.

I have always thought that commerical was a double edged sword. Sure, its good to know support is always available, but....

Apple could run this very same ad with one minor change at the end. A simple tag line that says "Dell support, always there for you 24/7. Because you're going to NEED them. Count on it."
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Ahhhh.... Spoken like a true ad man. All good points. Sell benefits, not features. Apple has done a great job of this with their iPod spots. "If you buy an iPod, you will have the time of your life dancing around listening to music." They sell the image and benefit, not the specs. This is the exact same thing they will need to do to sell this new iMac. This forum is not an accurate sample of the average computer user. The majority of the buying public really have no clue about specs. They just buy whatever the sales guy at the store tells them is best for their budget.
 
Let's assume this Mac actually gets announced.....

Let's predict how bad Apple will f$%& up forecasting demand and not have enough to ship and none on the shelves.
 
bwintx said:
iCabod (or iChabod, as one poster put it) refers to Ichabod Crane, who encountered the Headless Horseman in Washington Irving's famous short story, "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow."

(Therefore, this would like calling Dr. Frankenstein's monster "Frankenstein," as so many erroneously do, but I digress... ;) )
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Actually, the Ichabod Crane is the VESA mount you buy for the display you'll use with this :)
 
Might be a good excuse to finally ditch my antique 6100/66 powerMac if I can connect this device to my wunnerful :cool: NEC 17" MultiSync (with the almost Technicolor™-quality color) monitor.

I suppose I'd have to add a Phillipe Starck mouse and somebody's equally eclectic keyboard to have a truly personallized system?
 
Headless AV Mac

The headless Mac sounds like a good idea to me. I have an old G3 B/W with an ATI video card connected to my Samsung HDTV. With the DVI connection I can get a crystal clear 1280x720 desktop. The G3 has 105GB of disk space and 768MB ram, a Belkin USB wireless adapter to connect to my Airport, and a bluetooth adapter and wireless Apple Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse.

The problem is that the G3 is pretty big and doesn't look very nice next to the TV cabinet, and it won't fit inside. I had planned to put it in the garage with a 15 foot DVI cable.

The headless Mac would allow me to place the Mac in the TV cabinet as simply another component. The G4 1.3 isn't that fast, but it is fast enough. It would be nice to be able to upgrade to 512MB RAM and a 250GB drive. The video should be able to do 1280x720. And it needs bluetooth.
 
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