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MacBook Pro Specs Leaked? SSD, Better Battery, New Technology?

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This seems uneventful enough to be accurate...thanks for ******** in my wheaties again Apple.
 
Sorry I may be about to really embarrass myself here and be missing something that is looking me straight in the eye...but what is the difference between that leaked pic and the current MBP side? I was just looking on the apple.com image gallery for the current MBPs and it looks identical to me (except for the lighting bolt, of course).

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I'm looking forward to what comes out, my mac just died so I'm keen to upgrade (fingers crossed for a better quality screen such as IPS in the 15")
 
glitchu1 said:
Sorry I may be about to really embarrass myself here and be missing something that is looking me straight in the eye...but what is the difference between that leaked pic and the current MBP side? I was just looking on the apple.com image gallery for the current MBPs and it looks identical to me (except for the lighting bolt, of course).

*picture*


I'm looking forward to what comes out, my mac just died so I'm keen to upgrade (fingers crossed for a better quality screen such as IPS in the 15")
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I noticed the same thing. The leaked foto is either a fake or the new "Thunderbolt" is plug-compatible with display port (which would be plausible).
 
glitchu1 said:
Sorry I may be about to really embarrass myself here and be missing something that is looking me straight in the eye...but what is the difference between that leaked pic and the current MBP side? I was just looking on the apple.com image gallery for the current MBPs and it looks identical to me (except for the lighting bolt, of course).

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I'm looking forward to what comes out, my mac just died so I'm keen to upgrade (fingers crossed for a better quality screen such as IPS in the 15")
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Absolutely nothing, except for the MiniDP logo switch. The physical port looks identical.
 
Dongle

What - everyone will need ANOTHER dongle to connect to anything? Even as it stands, today's Macs are not good for presentations where connecting them to an external projector is required. Now the dongle will be needed to connect other things as well.

It happens with certain regularity when just before presentation by an invited speaker the needed dongle is either missing or broke internally such that the image on a projector is constantly flickering. If a dongle is found, then half the time it is of the wrong kind. Apple's solution? Another dongle, of course.

My boss is switching back to a PC laptop because of constant problems with connecting to a projector for power point presentations, and I had no arguments to counter that.
 
leman said:
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

The current 13" MB(P) has an Nvidia integrated 320M graphics, which is part of the chipset. Its not a discrete graphics and its not a separate chip. So, in current one you have two "large" chips: a CPU and the chipset+GPU one.

The sandy bridge has the GPU integrated into the CPU, but you still have another chip which holds the chipset (stuff like SATA, network, audio etc.) Again, its a two-chip configuration. Apple would GLADLY use Nvidia chipsets (with Nvidia integrated GPU), but Intel forbid any other company to develop chipsets for their CPUs. As the result, Apple is stuck with Intel offerings. So, if you want to blame someone, blame Intel (the are also responsible for Apple not adoption the Arrandale CPUs for the 2009 13" models - Apple did not want to cripple their graphics offering by replacing the nvidia graphics with the crappy intel HD GPU).

As for getting discrete graphic chip into a 13" Macbook - it will never happen, at least not before chips are greatly reduced in size. Here MBP 13" Teardown you can see how small the mainboard of the 13" Macbook actually is. There is NO place to fit another huge GPU chip + VRAM. Compare it to the teardown fotos of the 15" MBP and you'll understand that a discrete GPU in the 13" MBP is simply a physical impossibility and not an "Apple is screwing with us again". The only way to get a graphics chip in there is get some space by either increasing the size of the laptop (which won't happen), or removing the optical drive / reducing the battery capacity / moving the whole system onto blade SSDs.
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Wrong!

It is definitly possible to combine Core i processors with a dedicated Nvidia in small 13" Notebooks:

Acer TravelMate TimelineX 8372
ASUS U30JC-QX101V
ASUS U33JC-RX040V Bamboo
ASUS U36JC-RX109V
Dell Vostro 3300
Lenovo IdeaPad Z360
Packard Bell EasyNote Butterfly S-JO-026GE
Samsung QX310, Core i5-460M 2.53GHz,
Sony Vaio VPC-S11V9E/B
 
OllyW said:
Light Peak is supposed to work with video as well as data. How does that picture mean it's only going to work with Apple displays? :confused:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Peak
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my point is , they will only use the thunderbolt port to connect only to apple displays (which will provide another 4 usb ports ) using one cable instead of two like the current apple display.
whats worse is that the port will only be specific to apple products unless other manufacturer starts to introduce products / accessories such as external HDD that is compatible with the thunderbolt port
 
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crezz said:
Wrong!

It is definitly possible to combine Core i processors with a dedicated Nvidia in small 13" Notebooks:

Acer TravelMate TimelineX 8372
ASUS U30JC-QX101V
ASUS U33JC-RX040V Bamboo
ASUS U36JC-RX109V
Dell Vostro 3300
Lenovo IdeaPad Z360
Packard Bell EasyNote Butterfly S-JO-026GE
Samsung QX310, Core i5-460M 2.53GHz,
Sony Vaio VPC-S11V9E/B
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stop telling the truth, this is a mac board.
 
crezz said:
Wrong!

It is definitly possible to combine Core i processors with a dedicated Nvidia in small 13" Notebooks:

Acer TravelMate TimelineX 8372
ASUS U30JC-QX101V
ASUS U33JC-RX040V Bamboo
ASUS U36JC-RX109V
Dell Vostro 3300
Lenovo IdeaPad Z360
Packard Bell EasyNote Butterfly S-JO-026GE
Samsung QX310, Core i5-460M 2.53GHz,
Sony Vaio VPC-S11V9E/B
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... and none of which is as thin or has as large a battery as the 13" MB(P).

Anyway, my point was not that its not possible to build a 13" notebook with dedicated GPU. My point is that its not possible to build a 13" notebook with the same space constrains as the MB(P). Just look at the teardown pictures and you'll clearly see that there is absolutely no free space inside the machine, and no way to increase the size of the logic board without sacrificing something else.
 
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Is it just me, or does even the name Thunderbolt sound a bit cheesy and amateurish. It sounds like it should be one of those caffeine and sugar-laden drinks destined to be ridiculed and taken off the market. For some reason, the name just doesn't feel right.
 
alexandero said:
So if you swap the superdrive for a SSD, you'd then end up with a notebook with three (!) disks: one small SSD for the system, the default classic HDD and then another SSD in the superdrive-bay?

I can only imagine the chaos in the Finder. That doesn't sound like Apple at all.
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Im not sure what the problem is..
Ive got an iMac - The HDD is partitioned into two drives. I also have a drive for video files for editing and a time machine drive attached.

You just name the drives something recognisable to yourself, and everything is dandy.
 
nyctravis said:
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Is it just me, or does even the name Thunderbolt sound a bit cheesy and amateurish. It sounds like it should be one of those caffeine and sugar-laden drinks destined to be ridiculed and taken off the market. For some reason, the name just doesn't feel right.
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iPad.
:p
 
leman said:
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

The current 13" MB(P) has an Nvidia integrated 320M graphics, which is part of the chipset. Its not a discrete graphics and its not a separate chip. So, in current one you have two "large" chips: a CPU and the chipset+GPU one.

The sandy bridge has the GPU integrated into the CPU, but you still have another chip which holds the chipset (stuff like SATA, network, audio etc.) Again, its a two-chip configuration. Apple would GLADLY use Nvidia chipsets (with Nvidia integrated GPU), but Intel forbid any other company to develop chipsets for their CPUs. As the result, Apple is stuck with Intel offerings. So, if you want to blame someone, blame Intel (the are also responsible for Apple not adoption the Arrandale CPUs for the 2009 13" models - Apple did not want to cripple their graphics offering by replacing the nvidia graphics with the crappy intel HD GPU).

As for getting discrete graphic chip into a 13" Macbook - it will never happen, at least not before chips are greatly reduced in size. Here MBP 13" Teardown you can see how small the mainboard of the 13" Macbook actually is. There is NO place to fit another huge GPU chip + VRAM. Compare it to the teardown fotos of the 15" MBP and you'll understand that a discrete GPU in the 13" MBP is simply a physical impossibility and not an "Apple is screwing with us again". The only way to get a graphics chip in there is get some space by either increasing the size of the laptop (which won't happen), or removing the optical drive / reducing the battery capacity / moving the whole system onto blade SSDs.
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Don't get your panties in a twist, was a simple mistake. The other two have discrete GPUs so it just figures in my head that the 13 would too, plus the GT 320m is a discrete GPU, the 320m without "GT" is integrated. What a huge mistake zomg. I don't own a Mac (looking into one for battery life and some light gaming, but yeah SB won't cut it, used my 2600k's in a test H67 mobo and it's awful)

Anyways, they really should drop the optical and do a mix of a bigger battery and discrete graphics.
 
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DrJohnnyN said:
nyctravis said:
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Is it just me, or does even the name Thunderbolt sound a bit cheesy and amateurish. It sounds like it should be one of those caffeine and sugar-laden drinks destined to be ridiculed and taken off the market. For some reason, the name just doesn't feel right.
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iPad.
:p
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Lol! So true, so true :)
 
StealthGhost said:
Don't get your panties in a twist, was a simple mistake. The other two have discrete GPUs so it just figures in my head that the 13 would too, plus the GT 320m is a discrete GPU, the 320m without "GT" is integrated. What a huge mistake zomg. I don't own a Mac (looking into one for battery life and some light gaming, but yeah SB won't cut it, used my 2600k's in a test H67 mobo and it's awful)
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Sorry if my post came a bit aggressive, I had no intention to offend you. I'm just tired that lots of people expect Apple to get dedicated graphics for their 13" just because Dell (or whoever) could do it for for their more spacious 13". But only few actually realize that the space constrains are not so easy to overcome as it seems.

StealthGhost said:
Anyways, they really should drop the optical and do a mix of a bigger battery and discrete graphics.
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Agreed, I'd like that a lot. There is no real point in optical nowadays anyway.
 
This will be my first Mac an I am very excited!

I will mainly be using my computer for work purposes (Network engineer) and dual booting Windows. I will also use it for iPhoto and my music collection.

The things I would LOVE to see are the following (High-end 13" model):

Core i5 + dedicated GPU
SSD boot drive
320GB Storage HDD
NO optical drive
High-res Screen
10+ hours battery life

Those things would make me a happy man, however the dedicated GPU, no optical drive and high-res screen have me worried.

Chron.
 
leman said:
Sorry if my post came a bit aggressive, I had no intention to offend you. I'm just tired that lots of people expect Apple to get dedicated graphics for their 13" just because Dell (or whoever) could do it for for their more spacious 13". But only few actually realize that the space constrains are not so easy to overcome as it seems.



Agreed, I'd like that a lot. There is no real point in optical nowadays anyway.
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I think a lot of people would love that to happen, but when HP tried it with the HP Envy 15 they said they got so many replies about it, they put one into the HP Envy 14 which replaced the 15, so the same thing would probably happen. At least make it an option, maybe a LightPeak external optical drive for the 4 times in your life you'll need one? Would push the demand for LightPeak i'm sure.
 
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