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Of course not. Because apple did it. It would be the most hideous thing ever if any other company did that.

Other companies are doing it already. Are the Galaxy series and Lumia 1020 the most hideous thing ever? Is the 5th gen iPod touch the most hideous thing ever? I can't bother to be worked up over something I haven't seen. All I know is whenever we get leaks about something new it's the worst thing ever and then when it's actually announced and people see the real thing the hating dies down if not vanishes.
 
I think the protruding camera is a necessity at this stage.

To create a good camera, you need that thickness, reducing that dimension is the worst thing you can do to a camera team.

I think if Steve Jobs were still around, he'd explain it like he explained the sun flower Mac design.

Everyone was expected a thinner iMac. We had flat screen displays, so it would make sense to create a flat screen iMac, with the computer enclosed behind the screen, but the technology wasn't there to make it work well enough.

Hard drives and Disk Drives at the time only ran at their fastest when they were horizontal, and if you attached all that stuff to the back of screen it would no longer be flat. Good design is a result of functionality, so Apple decided to let each component be true to itself. If the drives wanted to be flat, let them be flat, if the screen wanted to be flat, let it be.

Same here, the camera, to be the best it can be, needs to be thicker than the casing of the phone. Apple could do two things here, make the phone thicker, and have the camera flush with the case, or have a protruding camera. This means the phone is as thin and light as it can be (Something Apple values) and feel great in the hand. The concession of having a protruding lens allows the phone casing to be it's optimum form, while at the same time, allowing the camera to be as good as it can be.

If they went for a flush design, either the camera would be crippled, or the form of the phone would be crippled.

Now, personally, I'd like the phone to be a bit thicker, and allow for a bigger battery, but Apple have obviously made the decision that size and weight are their key goals.
 
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Apple's new style is "make something that is ugly, adamantly defend it until everybody claims it's modern and clean".

I appreciate it might be a little unorthodox, but to imply Apple's new style is 'ugly' may be quite a leap IMHO.
 
From a previous post of mine where someone asked me what the wobble was like:

I have an iPod Touch 5G which has a protruding camera.

I've just done a test on a flat, hard desk and here are the results.

Green area - iPod rocks when pressed
Red area - iPod doesn't rock when pressed

Bear in mind you can also still touch the screen and perform actions on the green area without it rocking if you are light fingered with it. Also, when it does rock it's nothing major, around a half mm movement, it doesn't bother me but I can see it annoying some people. Obviously it doesn't rock if you have a back cover on it.

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Apple's new style is "make something that is ugly, adamantly defend it until everybody claims it's modern and clean".

So far none of their products could even be remotely considered ugly. I think their love affair with thinness has gotten out of hand, but I'm 99.99% its going to be a beautiful phone.
 
I think the protruding camera is a necessity at this stage.

To create a good camera, you need that thickness, reducing that dimension is the worst thing you can do to a camera team.

I think if Steve Jobs were still around, he’d explain it like he explained the sun flower Mac design.

Everyone was expected a thinner iMac. We not had flat screen displays, so it would make sense to create a flat screen iMac, with the computer enclosed behind the screen, but the technology wasn’t there to make it work well enough.

Hard drives and Disk Drives at the time only ran at their fastest when they were horizontal, and if you attached all that stuff to the back of screen it would no longer be flat. Good design is a result of functionality, so Apple decided to let each component be true to itself. If the drives wanted to be flat, let them be flat, if the screen wanted to be flat, let it be.

Same here, the camera, to be the best it can be, needs to be thicker than the casing of the phone. Apple could do two things here, make the phone thicker, and have the camera flush with the case, or have a protruding camera. This means the phone is as thin and light as it can be (Something Apple values) and feel great in the hand. The concession of having a protruding lens allows the phone casing to be it’s optimum form, while at the same time, allowing the camera to be as good as it can be.

If they went for a flush design, either the camera would be crippled, or the form of the phone would be crippled.

Now, personally, I’d like the phone to be a bit thicker, and allow for a bigger battery, but Apple have obviously made the decision that size and weight are their key goals.

To me that post makes it sound like you’ve had the Kool Aid. Lots. Did you even bother to mix the powder with any water?
 
I think it's pretty ridiculous if true. I mean, why not make the device a little bit thicker to accommodate the camera?

No one cares how thin they can make a phone - especially if bits are sticking out of it, making the phone thin is not really an achievement, is it?

I'd rather my camera lens remain inside the boundaries of the phone, and have it lie nicely on a flat surface - as many have said before me.

If they had listened to their customer community they'd realise that no one wants a thinner phone anyway, we want better battery life.
 
"Sticking out"

It's less than half a mm. It's nothing.

Perhaps to you, but even a millimeter is quite noticeable on a smooth surface and will have the propensity to snack on stuff, and perhaps collect dust.
 
Of course not. Because apple did it. It would be the most hideous thing ever if any other company did that.

Others and Apple have done it previously.

I don't mind it on our iPod Touch as it's such a small protrusion.

It was a little annoying on my Lumia 1020 though as that bump was large. But the picture quality made up for it.
 
To me that post makes it sound like you’ve had the Kool Aid. Lots. Did you even bother to mix the powder with any water?

So, rather than making the phone as thin as possible, make it thick enough for every part to fit and function as well as possible, creating a more cohesive and satisfying design.


*Edit - quoting the quote rather than the original post! D'oh! :D
 
Every two years we have the same conversation:

"It's getting too thin now, it's ridiculous"

Try going back just two generations of design change, see how much difference the weight/thickness makes.
 
To me that post makes it sound like you’ve had the Kool Aid. Lots. Did you even bother to mix the powder with any water?

Not really, just trying to get my head around this design.

Having a protruding camera isn't a decision Apple will have taken lightly, a company that openly advertises it's superior design. They will have put a lot thought behind it.

Sure, I could blend in with the rest of the comments, and say, "Urgh, fail!"

But I thought i'd try to open up a debate into the reasoning behind the decision.
 
Perhaps to you, but even a millimeter is quite noticeable on a smooth surface and will have the propensity to snack on stuff, and perhaps collect dust.

So the iPhone has advanced to the point of eating Doritos?
 
Perhaps to you, but even a millimeter is quite noticeable on a smooth surface and will have the propensity to snack on stuff, and perhaps collect dust.

No snagging and no dust on my iPod 5.

This really is making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
Every two years we have the same conversation:
Agreed, it was a point of discussion on the iPhone 5, and after the 5 hit the streets we started seeing complaints from people that their iPhone 5 was bending very easily where as the iPhone had not had such a problem. Now with the iPhone 6 reportedly being even thinner. I worry about its structural integrity to the degree that it will hold up unscathed in day to day usage.
 
So, rather than making the phone as thin as possible, make it thick enough for every part to fit and function as well as possible, creating a more cohesive and satisfying design.


*Edit - quoting the quote rather than the original post! D'oh! :D

I agree, like I said in my post, that was an option, and perhaps the decision I would have made.

Apple obviously are prioritising other things here.
 
Release date?

Apple will unveil the iPhone 6 on September 9, with a launch for the 4.7-inch version likely coming about a week or so after. It is possible that the 5.5-inch model may launch alongside its smaller counterpart, however production issues may push back its release until late next year or 2015.

Isn't next year 2015? Why would they announce a new phone now to ship late next year?
 
Eh, if so, I'd love to compare the reactions between this and the S5's protruding camera. I'd say if it's only a mm, thne it'll be fine.
 
No snagging and no dust on my iPod 5.

This really is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Perhaps, but I'm not liking the protruding camera. I'd rather see a solid design that factors in the thickness of the components, rather then having it stick out. Its not my cup of tea, though I'm still looking forward to getting a iPhone 6.
 
Of course not. Because apple did it. It would be the most hideous thing ever if any other company did that.

Other companies have been doing this already and until now it was not a problem. And now all of the sudden - coincidentally with the upcoming release of an iPhone with an alleged protruding camera - it seems to be the biggest design mistake ever...
 
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