Foxconn Rumored to Produce Sapphire Displays for Apple's Next iPhone
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IJ Reilly
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Sorry, that's too deep for me.
Since we're obviously the only two people who even care about this, perhaps you shouldn't be making it into a debate.
haha I totally agree ... no way they will pull this off in 1 year ... but its china.. anything can happen!
On a side note.. no matter what device you will buy ... apple will be working on next version ! its all about money ....
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gnasher729
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If GT can't recover from bankruptcy, their assets will be auctioned off, including these furnaces. The money will be paid to the creditors. Assuming Apple is the biggest creditor, most of what is paid for the furnaces goes to Apple, so Apple could afford to put in very high bids for the furnaces (if they assume that the money owed won't be repaid anyway).
Abazigal
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Why not? This doesn't prove that sapphire screens aren't feasible (from a spec perspective), they just ran into some productive problems which can eventually be resolved.
Besides, Apple isn't forcing anyone at gunpoint to make those screens. If those companies think they can't handle the order, then don't accept it, rather than start pointing fingers after the fact.
gnasher729
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So much about bringing manufacturing jobs to the US.
... and still, many consider buying Apple products a "patriotic" act.
For shame, Apple, for shame.
The American company messed up. They claimed they could manufacture, but they couldn't. And most of Apple's customers are not in the USA and therefore have not the slightest reasons to buy anything from Apple for "patriotic" reasons.
s2mikey
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Cheaper? Yes, but that's because they are slaves. Makes it easy to be cheap. Better? Nah, most products from China are pure JUNK. Just head to your local Wal mart or wherever and handle some of the products. Chinese stuff is 95% garbage.
Nice try though.
Messed up? Oh right, they were going to pay people living wages with benefits! The utter craziness of that. How could they consider such a thing? Better to use indentured servants and or slaves in China. How ever you want to sell it to yourself is fine but everyone knows the real reason everything is made by slaves now. HINT: slaves are cheap and disposable. There ya go.
True, but you do realize Apple won't rest until they do get Sapphire.
What a coincidence that GT ran into production problems right around the same time Apple also wanted massive quantities of Sapphire....
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Jobsian
macrumors 6502a
Apologies in advance Gisk, tantalisingly low-hanging fruit
Maybe we all do, *its
Could've put the contraction here instead
Abazigal
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I don't presume to be some expert in engineering, but if Apple persists, that might mean that they do legitimately see some merit in using sapphire glass in the iPhone. Nothing wrong with that, imo.
Keirasplace
macrumors 601
You do realize lost 500M out of the deal hey!! That's one hell of a R&D expense don't you think! Man, get a grip! They got mostly nothing put promise from GT that maybe they'd get the money back if GT sells the furnaces... Not a chance.
RedOrchestra
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Quite the tirades from someone who appears to own 2 pieces of that Chinese junk.
Michaelgtrusa
macrumors 604
Indeed and I smell a rat.
iolinux333
macrumors 68000
China can build an entire city in a year. I think they can build a factory to produce an existing product in the same time frame. The only barrier is cost, and if Apple can afford to blow 3big ones to hire a rapper and a huckster I think they can afford to make sapphire happen if they really want it to.
rGiskard
macrumors 68000
Apologies in advance Gisk, tantalisingly low-hanging fruit
Maybe we all do, *its
Could've put the contraction here instead
Touche! I should know better...
gnasher729
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Messed up, yes. The got several hundred million dollars from Apple, more than enough to pay their employees. They just couldn't get things working. With lower wages, things still wouldn't have worked. Your comments about "indentured servants and slaves" are just stupid. China has lower wages but also a much lower cost of living than the USA. And Foxconn is paying substantially better wages than other companies in the industry in China.
Assuming you are American, by calling the Foxconn workers "slaves" you are insulting a huge part of the population of your own country, whose ancestors were indeed slaves with no pay, no freedom to leave whenever they wanted, no way to work hard for two or three years and return to their home with their pockets full of money.
alphaod
macrumors Core
I don't see Foxconn going bust over this one as some people seem to think.
For starters I see the next iPhone will use sapphire and we already know the Apple Watch will. I can imagine there will be other markets for the sapphire, perhaps in other industries like actual watchmaking or automobiles.
For starters I see the next iPhone will use sapphire and we already know the Apple Watch will. I can imagine there will be other markets for the sapphire, perhaps in other industries like actual watchmaking or automobiles.
ThisIsNotMe
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Figure out how to compete and products will be made in the USA.
charlituna
macrumors G3
But can they overcome the inherent flaw in 'large' pieces of sapphire that causes it to shatter on the first drop. That is likely the reason Apple tested but never ordered displays
Your comment is at best inaccurate. There isn't any reason that Apple wouldn't have tested screens from synthetic sapphire of existing manufacturers; it would have certainly happened prior to the GTA partnership.
I don't know that the GTA sapphire production would have been targeted at the iPhone. If you consider that the partnership was not an academic exercise, then presumably the sapphire production would have been used for something that required more than doubling of worldwide sapphire production. Screens would certainly consume a lot of sapphire, and there were rumors to that effect.
charlituna
macrumors G3
I never said they didn't test using the material for full screens or that they only tested from GTA. you are trying to imply that from what I said but that doesn't equal to the truth.
As for the doubling comment, they are using sapphire for Touch ID buttons, which are now on many more devices in production, camera lens cover and allegedly for the apple watch which they hope sells like hot cakes. So that is enough to need far more sapphire than what was available.
Michaelgtrusa
macrumors 604
Why Apple Failed to Make Sapphire iPhones. http://www.technologyreview.com/news/532636/why-apple-failed-to-make-sapphire-iphones/
http://www.kyoceramobile.com/brigadier/
This company has sapphire screens on there smart phones, I'm sure they won't sell as many as Apple will, but they must be buying the sapphire screens from somewhere. Is Apple just trying to mass produce them cheaper vs buying from an existing supplier?
This company has sapphire screens on there smart phones, I'm sure they won't sell as many as Apple will, but they must be buying the sapphire screens from somewhere. Is Apple just trying to mass produce them cheaper vs buying from an existing supplier?