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How long after the skylake chip is released will Apple release it in the new rMBA?
I am predicting 2015 macbook pro retina lines will be thinner than current versions and it will packing 14nm intel processors.
http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/?d=qa&f=apu_brw_gpu3
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet.
Some insight into the HD6000 and extrapolation into what the Iris HD6100 can deliver (which is basically given extra thermal room to not throttle, 28W total as opposed to 15W power envelopes). Scales pretty linearly but it needs bandwidth and/or eDRAM.
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet.
Some insight into the HD6000 and extrapolation into what the Iris HD6100 can deliver (which is basically given extra thermal room to not throttle, 28W total as opposed to 15W power envelopes). Scales pretty linearly but it needs bandwidth and/or eDRAM.
I see no scenario in which Broadwell macbook pros materialize considering Skylake is just around the corner already. If the argument is that Apple would rather update to Broadwell instead of waiting an extra couple months for Skylake, that means one of two things: 1) Apple will bump to Broadwell then bump to Skylake a mere couple months later (highly unlikely), or 2) Apple will bump to Broadwell and wait another 9 months or so to bump to Skylake, around 7 months after Skylake has already been available on the market for other machines (again, highly unlikely). My guess is an autumn or early winter Skylake macbook pro w/ new thinner design borrowing elements from the upcoming macbook air.
news!!
new rumors...
macbook pro set to release at wwdc but i highly doubt that as wwdc is more of a software related event.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/macbook-pro-2015-rumored-release-date-set-for-wwdc-2015-133667/
http://www.inquisitr.com/1817097/apple-set-to-release-updated-macbook-pro-in-june/
new rumors...
macbook pro set to release at wwdc but i highly doubt that as wwdc is more of a software related event.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/macbook-pro-2015-rumored-release-date-set-for-wwdc-2015-133667/
http://www.inquisitr.com/1817097/apple-set-to-release-updated-macbook-pro-in-june/
new rumors...
macbook pro set to release at wwdc but i highly doubt that as wwdc is more of a software related event.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/macbook-pro-2015-rumored-release-date-set-for-wwdc-2015-133667/
http://www.inquisitr.com/1817097/apple-set-to-release-updated-macbook-pro-in-june/
I'm thinking they might release something to go with the revamped Photos app sometime this spring. They have to launch the Watch somehow via an event so hope there's plans to include Macs too.
new rumors...
macbook pro set to release at wwdc but i highly doubt that as wwdc is more of a software related event.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/macbook-pro-2015-rumored-release-date-set-for-wwdc-2015-133667/
http://www.inquisitr.com/1817097/apple-set-to-release-updated-macbook-pro-in-june/
the original retina macbook pro was introduced at wwdc
My prediction is apple watch,macbook air retina and mac mini refresh on spring. The fall will be the release of new thinner macbook pro retina lines,iPhone 6s ,thunderbolt display and iMac will be all retina including smaller ones.
I don't feel the Macbook Pros are going to get any thinner. Broadwell and Skylake aren't that much better in battery life (longer idle time perhaps but reports aren't returning great thermals for the type of chips in these machines) so slimming down right now will have to come from thinner batteries or more efficient layout of the board.
The chips are not smaller overall--Intel shrinks the CPU but adds more iGPU cores so it's essentially the same-sized overall package.
yeah right, but at the same time since 2012 there has no `major` change in rmbp so i hope this year will be something a little bit more than just a processor and gpu upgrade.
i guess upcoming macbook air might throw some light if there will any design/aesthetic related changes.
Could be. Are you suggesting he should backup his MBP, then wipe and re-install OS X?
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So were the refreshed 13" & 15" unibody Macbook Pros (with the newly-added built-in batteries) in 2009.
I'm thinking 2015 will still be too new to take advantage of everything Skylake will offer. Typically major changes (2008 unibody, 2012 retina) are a significant shift, so it'll probably be 2016 (another 4 year cycle) when we get more than a new processor.
I think even if the chassis itself isn't resdesigned (which I think it will be - thinner and wedge-like) at the very least we'll see a drastic reduction, if not complete elimination, of the bezel - moving the machines from 13" and 15" to 14" and 16" respectively. If Dell can do it, surely Apple can too - and squeezing in the extra screen real estate into the same footprint would be a huge plus. Besides, 12" rmba, 14" and 16" rmbp make more sense than 12" rmba and 13"/15" rmbp
This is not true for Skylake, as it brings the need for a redesigned motherboard.
Are you talking about LGA1151 as opposed to LGA1150? One pin difference.
Or the BGA that likely will not shrink much since Intel plans to add more eDRAM and bump up the GPU cores?
Macbook Air 2013.
Newest Dell 13 with Broadwell.
Note that the package is the same size. Unless one were to go down to the low-power Y SoCs that are about half the size. Compare using the screws for scale reference. Skylake isn't much more than a revised Broadwell so this physical form will be there in the laptops eagerly awaited for.
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I'm no expert, but from everything I've read, a typical Broadwell Core chip is 37% smaller than a comparable Haswell predecessor. You also have to keep in mind that Skylake vs Ivy Bridge is an enormous difference in terms of size and power consumption. The current rMBP design was built for the Ivy Bridge. In addition, Apple could switch to an IGZO display, or other low power display, which would drastically increase battery life.
Core M chip and board vs the current Macbook Air chip and board.
Is there a possibility the 13" rMBP might get an Iris Pro 6200 with eDRAM?
http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-enthusiasts-delayed-2015/
There are references of a H-series BGA package with dual core + GT3e.
This would be ideal as the eDRAM does seem to make a noticeable difference in GPU performance.
http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-enthusiasts-delayed-2015/
There are references of a H-series BGA package with dual core + GT3e.
This would be ideal as the eDRAM does seem to make a noticeable difference in GPU performance.
The processor itself is smaller but the package (with the chipset) is more or less the same size. Look at the previous comparison shots I posted. The Air uses the i5/i7, same one in the new XPS 13. Smaller and claims will probably be met but there is a reason Broadwell took so long to get off and Intel is only releasing the slowest ones with a hazy future outlook. Mum on the rest of Broadwell and Skylake, mum on 10nm.
Photo from Anandtech. Core M on the left is smaller but it's not a performance lineup. The point I'm getting at is that there is only so much Apple can shrink and trim before it's actually the components themselves creating physical limits. There will be tradeoffs past a point between functionality and a pursuit of thinness that gets praised yet criticized.
Battery life is a battery technology issue. I don't think any manufacturer is unfamiliar with that. Until there are some great strides, an medium workload will more or less be the same range given the same battery capacity. Broadwell might idle longer but there isn't much improvement in regular use (hard to say what qualifies as regular but tests online show small gains in a heavier workload with more than a browser open). It's new, it's still tweaking, but now or later, don't hold Intel's shrinks to be some magical problem solver.
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I don't remember where I read it but on one of the speculating articles was a GT3e with 64MB eDRAM. Think it was Skylake-U and not their high performing -H.
My opinion
In my opinion in April Apple will announce the new MacBook Pro retina , MacBook Air and apple watch . If we look ad the buyer's guide of this site we can see that the average amount of time between releases is 250 days .. At this moment we are at 195 days after the last release so I think that April can be a plausible date .. I think also that the processor will be broadwell ..the next processor and the next MacBook Pro will be released in October where I presume we will see nice improvements ..what do you think ?
In my opinion in April Apple will announce the new MacBook Pro retina , MacBook Air and apple watch . If we look ad the buyer's guide of this site we can see that the average amount of time between releases is 250 days .. At this moment we are at 195 days after the last release so I think that April can be a plausible date .. I think also that the processor will be broadwell ..the next processor and the next MacBook Pro will be released in October where I presume we will see nice improvements ..what do you think ?
Just imagine if the current retina macbook pro's receive the same "infinity glass" treatment Dell did with their 13 inch XPS laptop, you'd essentially get an equivalent 14 inch macbook pro body with a 15 inch screen. That and shave off a millimeter and the weight and size reduction would be huge! With broadwell and skylake you could probably get the same battery life while still shaving that 1mm.
Just imagine if the current retina macbook pro's receive the same "infinity glass" treatment Dell did with their 13 inch XPS laptop, you'd essentially get an equivalent 14 inch macbook pro body with a 15 inch screen. That and shave off a millimeter and the weight and size reduction would be huge! With broadwell and skylake you could probably get the same battery life while still shaving that 1mm.
They wouldn't have to change much. Simply extend the panel by pixels since the lamination process should make the panel itself quite stable and rigid--plus the aluminum top cover helps. Although I feel it would be easier on the 13 than 15.4 due to size. And the sides might be covered in fingerprint smudges so unless one was obsessive about cleaning, it wouldn't be much benefit in the end. That and it would introduce another resolution to support.
I doubt 1mm shaved would make much of a perceptible difference but I'm not sure what part you're talking about. If anything it might be slightly heavier since you're adding a bit more (plus some structural integrity changes) and the hardware doesn't suddenly get lighter with a 14nm shrink.
I'd much prefer a 4K panel with bezel but I suspect the integrated graphics are still going to have problems driving that resolution.