Templetalker said:Yeah, check my post on page 3 I believe, Joey.lol
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Feb 28th Products: Intel Mac mini and iPod Hi-Fi?
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So, where ever I go, I will need to carry a bag with me to carry that thing? It's a cool gadget, true, and I may want one, but that's what it is. A gadget. I just don't see mainstream people walk with one. Just like the PSP, too big to carry around in the pocket. If it would have some combined functionality, like 'iPhoto Everywhere', 'iChat everywhere', 'iCal everywhere', 'Mail everywhere', and 'iTMS everywhere' in iPod format, i think it would work. Just not in a clucky package. Besides, how many times would I loose my stylus. I lost that thing all the time, when I was still using my Palm III and V thingies.colinmack said:
That's a lot of new stuff. 'We' indeed just forget sometimes that SJ only has an hour or so for his presentation. Much more products would not be feasible to ensure it is getting enough press attention. And if your prediction is correct, which I think is close to what we'll see Tuesday, my wallet will hurt already enough.NEENAHBOY said:
One item I think we can add to this is, if the mini tablet is true, Apple will launch their phone service, for the 'Everywhere' aspect of it.
Apple's 'fun' products
I love the speculation! Just because someone says they are going to release the mac mini as a media centre doesn't mean it's going to happen!
It probably is a stereo or an iPod sock colour change! I would really be happy if they released more computers with Intel, to stop the speculation, but again, it's probably going to be an iPod holster for cowboys (patent pending).
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I love the speculation! Just because someone says they are going to release the mac mini as a media centre doesn't mean it's going to happen!
It probably is a stereo or an iPod sock colour change! I would really be happy if they released more computers with Intel, to stop the speculation, but again, it's probably going to be an iPod holster for cowboys (patent pending).
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Just in case we forgot...
The rumor we're discussing is this:
"As previously reported the Intel Mac mini and an iPod Boombox/Hi-Fi companion product are expected to be released at the Feb 28th event."
Which, the way I interpret, does not include other hardware like iPods, though it may include related nicknacks like Front Row 2.0 (mentioned in the original rumor) or maybe accessory products. iPod Boombox does not equate to an iPod, but to a boombox or speaker system of some sort, probably. Still, we might be able to deduce the nature of the next iPod from the new Apple hardware, say, if it supports wireless connectivity or has interchangeable/expandable docking or something (indicative of a change in iPod size).
Yet, this doesn't sound very exciting to me. I hope we get some teasers or something.
The rumor we're discussing is this:
"As previously reported the Intel Mac mini and an iPod Boombox/Hi-Fi companion product are expected to be released at the Feb 28th event."
Which, the way I interpret, does not include other hardware like iPods, though it may include related nicknacks like Front Row 2.0 (mentioned in the original rumor) or maybe accessory products. iPod Boombox does not equate to an iPod, but to a boombox or speaker system of some sort, probably. Still, we might be able to deduce the nature of the next iPod from the new Apple hardware, say, if it supports wireless connectivity or has interchangeable/expandable docking or something (indicative of a change in iPod size).
Yet, this doesn't sound very exciting to me. I hope we get some teasers or something.
WHAAAAT?! iTunes doesn't sell CD quality music???? I thought that was the whole idea! What a ripoff!
Then again, I am no audiophile and probably couldn't even tell a difference, but still, it's not right.
Then again, I am no audiophile and probably couldn't even tell a difference, but still, it's not right.
MarcelV said:
As a press conference attendee in quite a few areas over the years, I can say with some confidence that this is more to do with journalists' attention spans and deadlines than the products themselves.
They need quick sound/word bites with the requisite details, especially now that wifi/interweb/irc etc ensures that traditional media outlets are among the last to actually publicize press conferences.
polythene pam said:
I dunno. I ripped one in Apple lossless just to see if there was much of a difference. At times I could convince myself there was, but it didn't come close - at least for me - to beating the convenience of iTMS.
Roku Killer?
Does anyone think Apple is releasing something like this?
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/soundbridge/SoundbridgeRadio/index.php
I've had this thing on order for 3 months and it's still not shipped. It's basically a bedside radio with a wi-fi connection to any internet stream you want. If Apple did this it would be way cooler (and I could cancel my lame order)
Does anyone think Apple is releasing something like this?
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/soundbridge/SoundbridgeRadio/index.php
I've had this thing on order for 3 months and it's still not shipped. It's basically a bedside radio with a wi-fi connection to any internet stream you want. If Apple did this it would be way cooler (and I could cancel my lame order)
raggedjimmi said:would a TiVo application use EyeTV? Just that I'd be all for that
I'll say this, flat out buying Elgato would be a good move. They already have the hardware and software Apple would need.
Goldfinger said:
this is exactly what i am hoping for, but i also hope they will add a blue-ray drive…
that way i can watch the latest blue-ray HD movies (when they become available somewhere in the near future), and i can also watch movies and iphoto slideshows from my imac on my 50" plasma tv
i don't need the DVR stuff because cable tv s***s here in belgium
so just a very cool apple designed full size Hi-Fi component with a blu-ray drive and the ability to connect to my imac (via airport) and browse all my movies/photo's/music (front row 2)… use a new ipod with infrared as remote and connect the hi-fi component via HDMI to the plasma tv
polythene pam said:
It could never be the quality of a CD with it encoded, for it to be CD quality it would have to be AIFF which currently has not DMR. Let alone probably 95% of humans cant even tell the difference any way....
Paradigm Shift
The will never canabalize - I gurantee it!
Don't you see how this is going??!?!?
TV is dead - that stupid cable that bring "real time" TV is just a poorly used data connection. He doesn't want your small time TiVO fees when he can become your full cable company.
Get it? In the future you don't have cable you have the Media Store and channel or show subscriptions. You browse, or channel surf your subscriptions (watch previews) over your internet connection on your Apple media center or Mac ( all of which are slowly putting in remotes). "On Demand" is basically already doing this transparently and has been doing so for a long time in hotel rooms. Its just feeding your cable box a huge data stream. What if you really really could control that data stream?
The one thing this needs is bandwidth and they will grow this slowly and create such a demand for bandwidth that the way we get data and the prices will change. They have the power and the momentum now to create markets because of the worldwide success of the iPod.
Think of it - direct sales of television shows, movies, games, content!!! Instant gratification!!! This is innovation!! A DVR is a glorified BetaMax with a timer!!!
A camera/mic and a remote built into all new macs. Its staring you in the face !!! Mac will be your new phone and TV in the next 5-10 years. Screw skype - all you need is an internet connection and a MAC! Screw which cable company is in your area. All you need is broadband and a MAC. And don't think that they aren't looking at PS and XBOX next! All from your MAC!
One thing about Apple is they never just jump into a crowded baby pool of innovation. They dig out their own pool and skateboard in it and change the whole paradigm.
BornAgainMac said:
The will never canabalize - I gurantee it!
Don't you see how this is going??!?!?
TV is dead - that stupid cable that bring "real time" TV is just a poorly used data connection. He doesn't want your small time TiVO fees when he can become your full cable company.
Get it? In the future you don't have cable you have the Media Store and channel or show subscriptions. You browse, or channel surf your subscriptions (watch previews) over your internet connection on your Apple media center or Mac ( all of which are slowly putting in remotes). "On Demand" is basically already doing this transparently and has been doing so for a long time in hotel rooms. Its just feeding your cable box a huge data stream. What if you really really could control that data stream?
The one thing this needs is bandwidth and they will grow this slowly and create such a demand for bandwidth that the way we get data and the prices will change. They have the power and the momentum now to create markets because of the worldwide success of the iPod.
Think of it - direct sales of television shows, movies, games, content!!! Instant gratification!!! This is innovation!! A DVR is a glorified BetaMax with a timer!!!
A camera/mic and a remote built into all new macs. Its staring you in the face !!! Mac will be your new phone and TV in the next 5-10 years. Screw skype - all you need is an internet connection and a MAC! Screw which cable company is in your area. All you need is broadband and a MAC. And don't think that they aren't looking at PS and XBOX next! All from your MAC!
One thing about Apple is they never just jump into a crowded baby pool of innovation. They dig out their own pool and skateboard in it and change the whole paradigm.
After looking at the intel price list for cpu's I am going to give my opinion on the specs. If they keep the 499 price point they cant do the core duo or solo the machine wouldnt be able to make a profit. So I think they will go with a pentium M with with 950 chipset, intel hd audio, and a standard rca or svideo out on the standard model. Then they will offer a mid grade unit that has all that plus a source for video in. Then finally the high end model with a core solo cpu, Ati all in wonder graphics for hd in and out, and a smart universal remote that can control everything from your ipod dock to your stereo and tv.
jasper77 said:
I can pretty much guarantee you we will not see Blu-Ray in this new Mac Mini. I'm expecting it to debut with the new PowerMacs (MacPros?) this autumn.
I would love a Mac Media Center thing but the whole iTunes TV Shows make me thing its not going to happen. If they did I think it would have to be a different product line from the mini. Even if it is built on almost the same platform.
I could do with a new iPod as well. I'm still stuck with a 4G Photo and a full screen video thing would be incredible. I don't think it will happen yet tho.
I'll just wait and see.
200paul said:
I could not agree more! This would be some propper innovation, television took the back seat to the internet a few years ago for me, i can watch whatever i want, whenever i want to on the internet, maybe not entirely legally but surely this makes the power of the internet for mainstream television distribution a massivley un-tapped resourse.
I can see a few possible issues with this right now.
Who gets paid? How much? And how many people would loose their jobs and businesses?
If people can download files/shows/movies, who is going to watch the adverts? most channels rely on this as a source of income.
(would it get rid of some of the crap on Sky!?)
If internet distribution became the standard, how much cheaper would it be, and what effect would it have on quantity, quality and variety of viewing?
Are Telecom companies realisticly able to keep up? will this open up new opportunities for broadband connection providers?
...I guess there are many unanswered questions on this topic...
I am concerned that the mac mini is too inexpensively priced to support even the core solo. That chip costs more than $200 dollars in stacks of 1000, so in order for apple to enjot their high profit margins on the $500 model they will have to build the rest of the computer for around $100. I think that if a mini is announced it will be an upgrade to the chip only; no dvr. A dvr would sell better in the 4th quarter, would be a long enough time gap from now to justify a meaningful upgrade, and would coincide with their OS10.5 launch, so that they could update their other computers with media center technology. As many have commented, if a $500 computer can do what my recently purchased $2000 one cannot, I will be pissed.
Of course, I mean, I get it. Sitting behind my cardboard iMac...skibob1027 said:Looks like we have a Glenn Beck listener in the crowd!
Then it'll probably be more like the "A" option I posted a few pages back. It'll probably be an AirPort Express-like item that displays a FrontRow UI on your TV, and all the media streams from your computer, and it'll work just like FrontRow, playing stuff in your movie folder and iTunes. It might have a DVD drive as well, then it can compete with the DVD player market. In this scenario, I don't think it would do anything with your cable/satellite connection (DVR), nor would it burn DVDs. I would think it would have an ITMS interface as well.200paul said:
I could see it having the form factor of a Mini, or even smaller (because all it really does is run the FrontRow UI and stream stuff wirelessly to the TV, no HD to speak of).
I'm coming around. That's something I could see buying. I just hope it has all the speaker connections so I can hook up my 5.1 system.
firebox said:
That's the whole idea. There's no "channels" anymore... just shows that you subscribe to. Just like the RIAA isn't needed anymore with the iTMS, channels aren't needed anymore with a media store with subscriptions.
"Channels" become "networks", i.e. "The Discovery Network" (American Chopper, Daily Planet, How it's Made, etc). Just like you can pick any tune from an album/label, you pick shows from a network.
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