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Runnersworld have posted a first look at the nike+ and they say that it should work fine with any brand of shoes,
Our initial tests suggest that you can fix the little Nike+ footpod under the laces of any shoe and get a reading that’s similar to the ‘official’ one.
Will be interested to read some reviews, and then I could be tempted to pick one up as it's only £19 and use them with my asics. :)

Link: http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=2343
 
That's great. I know a lot of people who are angry with Nike production overseas and would rather run in Saucony, New Balance, Asics etc.
 
Got mine today

I got mine from the apple store today -- first one off the shipment

the sensor is an accelerometer of sorts. I slid them in my work shoes (black leather) and took a walk -- it recognizes them. the device works if it is logo side up and relatively flat. I am going to take the insoles out of my *non-nike* running shoes and carve a little slot in the arch padding. you could also try it the laces, but there is not really anything to keep it from flying out.

the nike account is free. and the shoe sensor will not set off security metal detectors - fed, airort, etc. the battery lasts for 2 years. I think it is 2000 miles roughly. and is not replaceable

dave
 
sketchy said:
the battery lasts for 2 years. I think it is 2000 miles roughly. and is not replaceable

2000 miles is hell of a lot less than 2 years for me. I find it incredible that this thing becomes a paper weight after 2000 miles. Until this changes, or the non-replaceable battery lasts much longer than 2000 miles, I will not buy one.

also, what do they mean a reading that's "similar" to the official one? It doesn't have to be off by very much to make it no more accurate than guessing my pace (which I do pretty accurately).
 
Such a great looking device, the ad with the guy with the big hair is brilliant. It's cheap too.

Makes me wish I wasn't a 255lbs oaf who can't run to save his life. :)

Now, I do about a hundred miles a week on the bike - if it's an acceleroto-thingy, could it be adapted to cycling? :)
 
they should make a version that works with any nike shoes and video iPods. those required shoes would be like fifty bucks if they didn't offer nano compatibility.
 
wmmk said:
they should make a version that works with .... video iPods.


The reason why they don't work with video iPods is quite clear - video iPods are not designed for running.
 
QCassidy352 said:
2000 miles is hell of a lot less than 2 years for me. I find it incredible that this thing becomes a paper weight after 2000 miles. Until this changes, or the non-replaceable battery lasts much longer than 2000 miles, I will not buy one.

Perhaps you'll be able to buy the actual device separately soon, because people won't want to have to buy another armband if they've already got one.

Let's imagine the device was $19 without the band.

Then bear in mind the lithium iron battery within costs a little bit of money anyway and having it replaced, re-sealed and so on wouldn't cost that far off $19 (I just had my watch battery replaced and resealed so it's waterproof for $14).

Then factor in that 2000 miles over two years is 2.73 miles a day every day.

I'm sure that's nothing to a lot of people, but it's a fair amount to most and to the general market of iPod nano buyers.

If you want something super long lasting for serious, serious running, then it will probably cost you more than $29 (or $19) over two years...

The worst thing about throwing it away after it's dead is just that - throwing it away, but then we're a throwaway society so go figure.
 
How would the sensor be different if Apple made it rechargeable? I can imagine a possible size and weight difference...but would it be that significant?
 
wmmk said:
they should make a version that works with...video iPods.


Video Ipods use a hard drive which, after movement caused by many runs, will wear down and eventually break, giving you a dead iPod. I don't think apple wants to be responsible (nor do they want to replace these iPods).

The Nano, however, uses flash memory which is unaffected by the movements of exercise: a perfect candidate for Nike+Ipod
 
AlBDamned said:
Perhaps you'll be able to buy the actual device separately soon, because people won't want to have to buy another armband if they've already got one.

Let's imagine the device was $19 without the band.

It doesn't come with an armband. The Nike + iPod kit is $29. The armband is sold separately.
 
AlBDamned said:
This is from the Nike+ iPod site.




"Exclusive" doesn't sound too good!

Give it a few weeks. I am certain people are working on cracking the proprietary channel this very moment.
 
QCassidy352 said:
2000 miles is hell of a lot less than 2 years for me. I find it incredible that this thing becomes a paper weight after 2000 miles. Until this changes, or the non-replaceable battery lasts much longer than 2000 miles, I will not buy one.

Dude, it's 29 bucks.

I am certainly not one to waste money, but seriously, it's 29 bucks. It's less than a night at the movies.

What would be better? 5,000 miles? 10,000 miles? 1,000,000 miles? Sure, Apple can build it, but then you would be complaining about the weight and the cost.
 
We sold 3 whole units as of 3:00 today, as well as several articles of clothing. At Dick's we have a huge display up front as well as all of the apparel and footwear associates are wearing nike shirts to sport the product.
 
Koodauw said:
As for putting it in your laces, not really possible unless you rig up some sort of bag/ holder to put it in, then tie your laces to the holder. The unit is oval, with no holes or anything.

Ironically, the Nike Shoe Wallet will serve this purpose perfectly.

I bought all the kit today, and I've got to say it's nice when the device is in the shoe.

This is my first pair of Nike's in about a decade. I hope they are better than I remember or I will be switching back to NB and using a work around.

But I will give the Nike's a try to reward their innovation with Apple.
 
I received my kit today, but have only had a few minutes to "test drive" it. Set up was extremely simple, just make sure you have the latest software update on your nano. I slipped the transmitter under my shoe laces (see below). When you plug the little dongle into your iPod, you get a "Nike+iPod" menu item on the main screen. From there you can choose what type of workout you want (time, distance, calories, etc.). Once you choose that, you can choose a playlist. Then the voice tells you to walk around a bit to activate the transmitter. After a few seconds, the voice tells you to begin your workout and the first song fades in. You can press the center button on the nano to get your time and distance at any time during the workout (the music fades and the voice speaks) and every 5 minutes the voice announces how much time has elapsed. I haven't played around enough to see how customizable all of these setting are.

Since I'm a bit busy today, I ran on my treadmill for 10 minutes instead of going out for a proper run. The time updates were nice, and the distance was two-tenths of a mile off of what my treadmill said at the end of the run. I don't think we can read much into it, because I have no idea how accurate my treadmill reading is. I'm sure there will be many people who will test the distance accuracy in the next few days.

As for using it with non-Nike shoes: The transmitter tucked nicely under the laces of my Saucony Hurricanes and didn't fall out during my 10 minute run. Before I take it outside, though, I'm going to sew a piece of velcro to the tongue of my shoe and stick the other piece on the bottom of the transmitter. Between the laces and the velcro, I think it will be pretty secure. I couldn't feel the transmitter against my foot while I was running. It would be easy to forget it's there. FYI - I wear a size 13. If your feet are significantly smaller, or you use a different shoe, I can't really speculate if the transmitter will fit under your laces or not. [EDIT: I just remembered that I'm married and my wife's feet are much smaller than mine. The transmitter fits perfectly under the laces of her size 6 Mizunos.]

I'm also not sure if the orientation of the transponder affects its accuracy. I'll have to do more testing over the next couple of days.

Another FYI - I won't be online much for the rest of the day, so don't get annoyed if I don't respond to your questions.
 

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Flowbee said:
It doesn't come with an armband. The Nike + iPod kit is $29. The armband is sold separately.

My mistake, don't know where I read that.

Still only $29 though.
 
superduperjacob said:
Is it possible to switch between miles and kilometers?

Yes. On the nano: Nike+iPod>settings>Distances (miles or kilometers)

Without changing any settings, you can choose from the following pre-set workouts:
3K
5K
10K
2 miles
5 miles
10 miles
Half marathon
Marathon

You can choose from one of those, or set up a custom distance.
 
Sounds very promising! I just wish it worked with my video iPod, but I can understand why it doesn't.
 
Very glad to hear it works with non-Nike shoes. I do belive this will be my next ipod related purchase (after circuit city replaces my damn ear buds :rolleyes: ).
 
BWhaler said:
What would be better? 5,000 miles? 10,000 miles? 1,000,000 miles? Sure, Apple can build it, but then you would be complaining about the weight and the cost.

No, I wouldn't. I don't mind paying a decent price for something that lasts. I hate this disposable mentality.

With the older nike accelerometer I have, you have to calibrate it before the first use. You start it, run a measured distance (a lap of a track, say), and then tell the unit how far off it was. Is this calibration necessary/possible with this unit?
 
Flowbee said:
I received my kit today, but have only had a few minutes to "test drive" it. Set up was extremely simple, just make sure you have the latest software update on your nano. I slipped the transmitter under my shoe laces (see below). When you plug the little dongle into your iPod, you get a "Nike+iPod" menu item on the main screen. From there you can choose what type of workout you want (time, distance, calories, etc.). Once you choose that, you can choose a playlist. Then the voice tells you to walk around a bit to activate the transmitter. After a few seconds, the voice tells you to begin your workout and the first song fades in. You can press the center button on the nano to get your time and distance at any time during the workout (the music fades and the voice speaks) and every 5 minutes the voice announces how much time has elapsed. I haven't played around enough to see how customizable all of these setting are.

Since I'm a bit busy today, I ran on my treadmill for 10 minutes instead of going out for a proper run. The time updates were nice, and the distance was two-tenths of a mile off of what my treadmill said at the end of the run. I don't think we can read much into it, because I have no idea how accurate my treadmill reading is. I'm sure there will be many people who will test the distance accuracy in the next few days.

As for using it with non-Nike shoes: The transmitter tucked nicely under the laces of my Saucony Hurricanes and didn't fall out during my 10 minute run. Before I take it outside, though, I'm going to sew a piece of velcro to the tongue of my shoe and stick the other piece on the bottom of the transmitter. Between the laces and the velcro, I think it will be pretty secure. I couldn't feel the transmitter against my foot while I was running. It would be easy to forget it's there. FYI - I wear a size 13. If your feet are significantly smaller, or you use a different shoe, I can't really speculate if the transmitter will fit under your laces or not. [EDIT: I just remembered that I'm married and my wife's feet are much smaller than mine. The transmitter fits perfectly under the laces of her size 6 Mizunos.]

I'm also not sure if the orientation of the transponder affects its accuracy. I'll have to do more testing over the next couple of days.

Another FYI - I won't be online much for the rest of the day, so don't get annoyed if I don't respond to your questions.

That is frackin' awesome! I mean, this is good news for us non-nike! I just bought my new shoes for my workout even before Nike shoe just announced!! Thank you for your coolest invention!!! Hope Apple Legal is not gonna sue you for it!!! ;) :rolleyes: :p :D :eek:
 
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