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I just got off the phone with my friend Steve...he works for Apple...and he told me that the iPod Touch is coming out on Wednesday and that it will in fact have Wi-Fi and bluetooth. He then said it will also be OS X based and will be able to watch hours upon hours of video.

But it doesnt play music.:(

ROFLMFAO

:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Apple won't add an FM tuner (even though I'd like them to!) to the iPod because they want you to buy the FM Radio remote (like I did, haha!).

I don't think the iPod-phatty is real.

They won't put BT/WiFi in the iPod because it's supposed to be a music player - with video. Hence "the beat goes on" - they're "updating" the iPod, not replacing it with an all-in-one gizmo.

The new iPod will most likely have a gigantic touch screen covering the whole iPod and will come in 80 GB and 120 GB capacities. Cover flow will be present, and the price of the 80 GB iPod will be the same as the price as the 30 GB, and the price of the 120 GB will be the same as the price of the 80 GB. IMO that's the most likely scenario. Anything else is just wishful thinking...

They're going to update the nanos with slightly higher capacities and better price points, that's about it.

Steve will probably talk about all three iPods as he sometimes has in the past and so the shuffle will also be bumped up to 2 GB and have a touch screen (lol, jks). Aside from the capacity bump, better battery life and possibly cheaper.

Available today! (crowd goes nuts)
 
Apple won't add an FM tuner (even though I'd like them to!) to the iPod because they want you to buy the FM Radio remote (like I did, haha!).

I don't think the iPod-phatty is real.

They won't put BT/WiFi in the iPod because it's supposed to be a music player - with video. Hence "the beat goes on" - they're "updating" the iPod, not replacing it with an all-in-one gizmo.

The new iPod will most likely have a gigantic touch screen covering the whole iPod and will come in 80 GB and 120 GB capacities. Cover flow will be present, and the price of the 80 GB iPod will be the same as the price as the 30 GB, and the price of the 120 GB will be the same as the price of the 80 GB. IMO that's the most likely scenario. Anything else is just wishful thinking...

They're going to update the nanos with slightly higher capacities and better price points, that's about it.

Steve will probably talk about all three iPods as he sometimes has in the past and so the shuffle will also be bumped up to 2 GB and have a touch screen (lol, jks). Aside from the capacity bump, better battery life and possibly cheaper.

Available today! (crowd goes nuts)

If it has the gigantic screen you speak of (4" at least), then i'll be happy even if it didn't have Wi-Fi. It's a good thing it will have Wi-Fi! Just an added bonus.
 
They won't put BT/WiFi in the iPod because it's supposed to be a music player - with video.

Why would that stop them from adding BT to the device? It would allow them to use wireless headphones, and that would be a HUGE bonus in my book! It would also allow wireless syncing. BT is not meant for web-browsing, it's not a replacement for WiFi. It's more like a replacement for USB-cable and headphone-wires.

Hence "the beat goes on" - they're "updating" the iPod, not replacing it with an all-in-one gizmo.

I'm not saying that the iPod will get a web-browser or something, but it HAS been getting new features in the past. First it played music. Then it displayed your pictures. Then it got video. What makes you think that we have now reached the point where no new features will be added to the device?
 
Bring-It-All-Together: A Plea for Convergence and a Portable (Multi)Media Player

The debate over the next generation high-end ipod (primarily the WI-FI debate, as most people expect widescreen and multi-touch (without this, it wouldn't be much of an update) gravitates toward two areas. First, the discussion over cannibalizing the iphone, which is very hard to handicap because of a) uncertainty in the manufacturing costs b) ignorance of Apple's long-term strategies and c) the personal preferences of high-level apple executives.

Secondly, however, is the debate over what the ipod should be, and this is where a new generation of ipods could change everything (although the reference to a new product in 2008 is intriguing). The ipod is, even with video capabilities, first, foremost, and almost exclusively a music player. It has evolved from that and is optomized for playing and managing (with itunes integration and the click wheel) music. For a music player, a widescreen would add a larger list of songs (not a huge bonus) and the ability to touch one's music (ok, that IS big, but not a real upgrade in terms of functionality). When it comes to have a small unit for exercising (nano, for some a shuffle) or a large music carrying device for one's library (standard ipod), then one has to admit that apple has fairly come up with a top of the line product. Sure, additions such as bluetooth for headphones, smaller sizes, and more storage would enhance the player even more (there is much more room to grow), but for the purpose of playing music there is only so much functionality that you can have in a portable device, and thus, only so much room to expand. Apple will have to focus on making its devices smaller, have larger capacity, and have more and better extras to enhance the music listening experience, but technology has opened the door to something more (ipad, inex, ipro (good name for an Apple PDA) ipex, ijoin, ijust, iconnect, (just trying to stake my claim)...

In 2001 when Apple introduced the ipod, it was a major, scratch that, huge step for the music industry (as Steve said in that keynote). You could listen to large amounts of music everywhere you went with good quality and battery life. But everyone is used to that now. With the rise of the Web 2.0 and the miniturization of electronics new avenues such as portable video, mobile internet access, and on-demand multimedia, new niches have opened up, and Apple has done very little to exploit them. Apple got into the iphone business for two powerful reasons: 1) current phones pretty much suck at doing anything more than calling (it took years for text messaging to even get decent) and 2) The cell phone market is not only HUGE, but necessary to many people (I suppose some people's ipods are necessary to them as well), and Apple did a great job with the iphone, but Apple has danced around nearly every aspect of one relatively new area...

...the Portable Media Player (PMP). They have personal music players (also pmps, but ipod has taken over the mp3 player name), computers (multi-media device), the leading media store and program, and even a home media center device. The iphone is not a pmp (although it does a great job as one) because it comes from a demand for music players one one end and a demand for cell phones and data (internet, email, etc.) business on the other. One strong piece of evidence is the capacity, which leaves little room for video. Another is the lack of additional support for media on either the itunes/ipod end (no wireless synching) or on the mobile platform end where, except for youtube, it has little additional access to multi-media. Companies such as Archos, Cowon, Verizion, and now Nokia have done much more to bring media access to portable devices, and some have done a fairly good job.

What this means for ipod is that it can use its ipod leverage much as it did with the iphone and make the stubby (or perhaps nano) the top of the music player line, as they do all of the music (with the possible exception of storage size, but in the next year or so we should see that difference disapear) interaction as well as the large ipod. THEN, use the ipod touch (perhaps a new name after "ipod") to branch into a new market. Widescreen (which in a year could get 720/480 resolution, much like the Archos 605) with the high contrast quality and ease of use of the iphone would make it a media device, but it wouldn't end there. WI-FI would be essential for a Personal Media Device (if only because so many competitors have it) because of the ability not only to synch with itunes but to access media off of itunes and, through Safari, the rest of the internet. All of the world's video and music on seamless (that's the Apple key that they have shown with itunes) demand, with the profits going to Apple.

And because media is no longer just about a picture or song or video, make it truly multi-media by allowing full integration with other media. A USB port, so one can download pictures directly from a phone or show pictures on a computer screen, tv, or projector (or even use the WI-FI or Bluetooth). A built-in (albeit lower resolution) camera to record media (eventually upgradable to video or VOIP enabled). A Voice recorder (seriously, how cheap would that be to add-on) to overtake that entire market in one fell sweep. A platform for showing slideshows (powerpoint/keynote) and other buisiness related multi-media. A device that would link with (and perhaps evolve to replace) Apple TV and DVRs to make television mobile and facilitate streaming to and from TV sets, with the ability to pass the floundering HD-Disc market. The list doesn't stop there, and with widespread implimentation of PMPs, new possibilities that have yet to be concieved would become reality. Even PMA/Office functions such as calendars, email, widgets, and beefier applications would fit under the multi-media umbrella.

Best of all, everything in the above list Apple HAS ALREADY DONE, and with much of it on the ipod, we know the technology is there. The software exists on computers, and this leaves Apple the opportunity to do what it does even better than software and hardware, the integration of the two. For some (such as video, VOIP, and powerpoint/keynote), they’re not quite there in a mobile device, but for most if not all of these areas they can get a powerful start.

Importantly, just as the mp3 player market existed before the Ipod but was relatively small, PMPs are not popular (most of them today exist as MP3 players, cell phones, portable gaming platforms, and UMPCs (Ultra-Mobile PCs) and the few that exist are relatively obscure. Apple could jump into this market and capitalize on its reputation (using even the ipod brand itself, at least at first) to build it and dominate. Eventually, as mp3-only players become obsolete because greater capabilities become easy to have in any device, Apple can let the mp3 market die with holding onto a market that it helped to create.

And, if that market merges with the phone market coming from another direction, then they will really have the opportunity (I think it is important to say that with a limited size and the chokehold that the phone service companies have on their market, iphone is not a directed attack at the PMP market, but rather, as stated above, at an extremely large market with dismal hardware capabilities (seriously, who uses their phone to search the internet/check email/listen to music?)) to dominate. From MP3 player to PMP to cell phone to laptop, Apple with either dominate or have a sizable and secure market share, something NO other company can attest to, which makes APPLE THE KING OF CONVERGENCE.


So sure, Apple could ignore this market), or make only a feable attempt at it by ignoring all of the interoperability that WI-FI and more technologies and partnerships have to offer, but that very interoperability is Apple’s strongest point, and who wouldn’t love seeing Apple bring-it-all-together?. We’ve seen the hardware, OS X mobile opens the door for software, and so even if their strategy doesn’t include PMPs, why not take a bite off of them anyways for the cost of a WI-FI module and some software updates? Next Wednesday, Apple has to decide whether it will wait (why?) or get on board, because if it does it soon, it can be in the driver’s seat in no time.
 
..... bzz.... bzzz...... bz......... i'm passing the time until September 5th, by playing Reckless Drivin.. and cleaning my desk!! :eek::eek:

Every second feels like a minute. Every minute feels like an hour. Every hour feels like a day. Every day feels like a week!!!

I... am going... to DIE waiting for this event!
 
Hey guys. I just talked to some friends of mine from inside Apple. Their names are Intelligence, Logic, and Reason.

They told me that the new iPod will have Wi-Fi.

Did you ask the guy called Logic when Version 8 will be ready? ;)
 
I have it on good authority that the ipod touch will have wifi!!! If I could in the smallest chance possibly be wrong then I am buying an Archos 605
 
The Amazon iPods pricing seems really strange right now...

iPod 30GB White: 449$
iPod 30GB Black: 299$
iPod 80GB White: 609$
iPod 80GB Black: 357$

:confused:

Maybe we're seeing in the White iPod the prices of a new iPod touch...;)
 
The 2 major rumors since I recently became a member were-

1- New OSX was to have amazing suprise features like 3D look using core animation and touch interface (they only added coverflow finder).

2- New iMacs were going to be touch-screen with completely new design (They're not. Just a little thinner).

Question - is reveal day always a let down compared to the rumors, or are we ever pleasantly surprised?

More so recently than in years past the expectation levels have been set higher. The let downs do seem to be more prevalent recently but there have been some nice surprises intermingled here and there. The Mac community must be very creative or just a bunch of brats ;)

BTW, if you want 3D try putting on some traditional 3D glasses (iGlasses) and look at the dock animations. They bounce right off the screen.
 
Thats what you get when the stock runs low.Looks like they have plenty of Black 30gigs.

Anyone else see that they reccomend you buy the white and the black together for 902 or something? Haha
 
The ipod is, even with video capabilities, first, foremost, and almost exclusively a music player. It has evolved from that and is optomized for playing and managing (with itunes integration and the click wheel) music. For a music player, a widescreen would add a larger list of songs (not a huge bonus) and the ability to touch one's music (ok, that IS big, but not a real upgrade in terms of functionality).


One thing I haven't seen touched on here, but in many situations I don't like the fact my iPhone has a touchscreen when it comes to listening to music because I have to physically look at it. When driving, I need to give some space to the car ahead of me (and hope some chowderhead doesn't dive into the gap) because I need to look down and touch (sometimes two or three times) to track skip forward or backward. And if I want to choose a new playlist? Or advance into a song via the slider? Or change the volume? I could be spending 5-15 seconds doing this, constantly peeking up to make sure I don't hit anything. With my Nano, I could feel my way around the clickwheel without ever having to take my eyes off the road.

Same when jogging/walking. I could just feel my way through using the clickwheel. Now I have to take my iPhone out of my pocket and stare at it for a time while I do what I need.

I still believe the high-end iPods will be MultiTouch just because it is the "new" thing. But I am not surprised Apple is keeping the mechanical click-wheel on the iPod Nano2/Mini2...
 
Almost Here!

Wow, it's the long weekend now which will fly by, and by the time we all get back to work or whatever it will be Tuesday and there will be almost no more time to wait!! :D
 
I've already posted on the whole wifi/no-wifi argument, so i'm done with it now.

What i'm considering now is that the iPod Touch is going to resurrect the old remote control that we use to get with the old 2nd & 3rd gen iPods. Could also have come with 4th but i can't remember.

The major issue with iPhone as far as i can see it, is you can't use it whilst driving/riding a bike or anything that means you can't use it without looking at it directly.

I'm expecting a small dongle style remote control, or in crazy MacRumors no-limits world that patent Apple has for audibly navigating a computer/mp3 player comes to fruition. Now that would be sexxy.


M. :D
 
Apple's multi touch screen is superior to any touch screen on the market. You can drag, whipe pinch, it recognizes several fingers at a time. The possibilities are simply endless and will in the near future allow us to control a device in a way we never thought of before.

It simply adds a new dimension of UI control. If you ask me playing solitaire on it will be fun and the same will go for all the other games Apple have planned. Memory would be a suitable game too.

Multi-touch wouldn't be needed for these games. The Nintendo DS is a traditional touch screen on the bottom and is currently dominating the video game market. While I won't argue that the iPhone screen isn't nice, multi-touch isn't necessary for most of the stuff you do on the iPod. Someone else said it before, but I don't think photos ever really took off on the iPod.

While everyone is arguing about wifi being on the iPod, I for one won't care unless it comes with Safari. That is, unless Apple can come up with another compelling reason for having wifi. And sharing songs with other iPod users, IMO, isn't it. Purchasing songs on iTunes from my iPod isn't the ticket, either.

Safari + wifi on an iPod would only be nice for me because it'd save me the trip up the stairs if I wanted to check something on the net real quick. But really, if you're at home and have the choice between a desktop/laptop or browsing on your iPhone, how many people are really going to choose the iPhone? Browsing on the iPhone (and on an iPod) is vastly inferior to sitting in front of a computer.
 
Boot from iPod Touch???

Do you think we would be able to Boot Mac's from the iPod Touch via firewire or USB 2.0???
 
Chin and Forehead

What are the possibilities that a touch-pod would lack enough hardware featured on the iphone that they can get rid of the chin and forehead? Just 100% screen.
 
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