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+1 is not a post

MrSmith said:
Ergo, the kind of posts where someone gives advice or makes an opinion identical to a previous post are also Plus Ones in essence and should therefore be included for deletion. Rules should be applied objectively, not emotionally. Even if certain posts are less annoying than others, the rules should still apply.
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The rules happen to be about 'making posts with only one or two words (e.g., LOL) or a smilie' not about agreeing per se. That's pretty clear.

None of us moderate to what things are 'in essence' or context. See Q's post above. Sorry to disappoint.
 
People obviously want a way to quickly express their agreement, and they have nothing to add or feel the other person has already said it just right. And yet they still want to express it.

Why not give them an outlet for this? Have a "+1" button and "+1" count on each post. I guess this whole thing started with Digg.
 
aLoC said:
People obviously want a way to quickly express their agreement, and they have nothing to add or feel the other person has already said it just right. And yet they still want to express it.

Why not give them an outlet for this? Have a "+1" button and "+1" count on each post. I guess this whole thing started with Digg.
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This sounds a little safer then the reputation system idea that always gets tossed around.
 
What if the "+1" post is followed by a consecutive "+2" post by the same user? Surely that is OK?
 
EricNau said:
What if the "+1" post is followed by a consecutive "+2" post by the same user? Surely that is OK?
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The moderators would normally delete that too.

Suppose somebody posts
The new MacBook Helium is too light. They need a weight adjustment or something.​
If someone else posts
agreed​
then the moderators will delete it. It's one word long (which is usually going to make it a target for the moderators) and isn't worth reading by everyone else. One such post isn't that bad, of course, but we encounter lots of them, so the rule is simple: no tiny posts that show nothing but agreement.

Note that it would be OK to post
I agree that the new MacBook Helium is too light to stay on the desk, and it should have a weight adjustment knob.​
It means essentially the same thing but is more pleasant to read and shows the poster was thinking, not merely nodding his or her head. In other words, you can't turn in homework that was photocopied from someone else's homework, but you can read their homework, write it in your own words, and nobody will mind when you turn that in!
 
Doctor Q said:
In other words, you can't turn in homework that was photocopied from someone else's homework, but you can read their homework, write it in your own words, and nobody will mind when you turn that in!
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No body told me there was homework! 😱

*scurries off to copy rewrite in my own words Doctor Q's homework.*

[on topic]

How are picture-posts viewed? I do this only once in a blue moon (and only if the picture is a better illustration of my point).
 
CalBoy said:
How are picture-posts viewed? I do this only once in a blue moon (and only if the picture is a better illustration of my point).
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Do you a post that's nothing but a picture?

We frown on smilie-only posts (see? 😡) but otherwise there are no rules against pictures per se. They just have to be worth reading seeing and appropriate for the thread. After all, your mockup of a potential new Apple product might be worth a thousand words. And the desktop photos threads would be rather dull if people merely described their desktops! 🙂

We're pickier about off-topic text or pictures in news threads, since so many site visitors read those threads.
 
Doctor Q said:
Do you a post that's nothing but a picture?

We frown on smilie-only posts (see? 😡) but otherwise there are no rules against pictures per se. They just have to be worth reading seeing and appropriate for the thread. After all, your mockup of a potential new Apple product might be worth a thousand words. And the desktop photos threads would be rather dull if people merely described their desktops! 🙂

We're pickier about off-topic text or pictures in news threads, since so many site visitors read those threads.
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I believe that he means responses to posts that are just pictures, and are meant to be taken as a joke or as sarcasm. Like if somebody was complaining over a miniscule thing, and somebody responded with a picture of spilt milk or something. Would that be okay?
 
JML42691 said:
I believe that he means responses to posts that are just pictures, and are meant to be taken as a joke or as sarcasm. Like if somebody was complaining over a miniscule thing, and somebody responded with a picture of spilt milk or something. Would that be okay?
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I did sort of mean this, though I'm not one to post the cliché (and at times insulting) pictures of a crying baby. In fact, the only recent example I can think of is this post, and it wasn't meant to be offensive; it just worked better than me writing it out.

I don't do it often though, just those rare times when the picture is just apt or appropriate.
 
CalBoy said:
it wasn't meant to be offensive; it just worked better than me writing it out.

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those rare times when the picture is just apt or appropriate.
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I think you answered your own question! Those are the criteria that matter.
 
Doctor Q said:
The moderators would normally delete that too.
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I know; I was being facetious.

Naturally, if I posted "+1" in response to a post, and then followed that with a second post of "+2" to add extra emphasis I'd be breaking two rules instead of one.

...Although, perhaps my comment wasn't clear. Maybe I need to work on my facetiousness. 😱
 
Personally, I don't think this is at all an unreasonable solution. Sure, that's chat and this is a static forum, but y'know. 😉

And then I had an idea — what if you were only allowed to say sentences that had never been said before, ever? A bot with access to the full channel logs could kick you out when you repeated something that had already been said. There would be no “all your base are belong to us”, no “lol”, no “asl”, no “there are no girls on the internet”. No “I know rite”, no “hi everyone”, no “morning sucks.” Just thoughtful, full sentences.
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Doctor Q said:
...you can't turn in homework that was photocopied from someone else's homework, but you can read their homework, write it in your own words, and nobody will mind when you turn that in!
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I'm disappointed in you, Doc. There are a lot of students here who look up to you. You should be more careful with your advice. 😀
 
Doctor Q said:
In other words, you can't turn in homework that was photocopied from someone else's homework, but you can read their homework, write it in your own words, and nobody will mind when you turn that in!
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If you do re-write someone else's homework, make sure they have answered the question correctly.

If they have made a really stupid error, it stands out like a sore thumb when 3 other people (who just happen to be best friends) make exactly the same stupid error, even though it is presented differently. 😱
 
EricNau said:
What if the "+1" post is followed by a consecutive "+2" post by the same user? Surely that is OK?
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Normally the moderators would delete that.

For example, if someone were to post

The new MacBook Pb is too heavy. It needs to go on a diet.

And then someone else posts

I concur.

Then it will be deleted by the moderators. It's very short (which is on the moderator radar) and is just wasting everyone's time. If they only happened occasionally then it wouldn't be a problem but there are a lot of them, so it's one rule for everyone, no posts that are just affirmative.

The following example would, on the other hand, be acceptable

I agree that the new MacBook Pb is too heavy to carry, and it should stick to SlimFast for breakfast, lunch and a normal healthy meal in the evenings.

The meaning is the same but it is more verbose and takes longer for the poster to write, thus engaging their brain more than a simple agreement. To phrase it differently if you want to duplicate what someone else has said in
a prior post then you should write it in your own words.

(With appologies to Doctor Q, I'm in total agreement with this policy on moderation, it keeps the forums clean and largely useful rather than a series of pointless posts like this one).
 
JML42691 said:
@tyr2, I believe that he was being sarcastic😉
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🙂

I was just trying to give an example of 'but you can read their homework, write it in your own words, and nobody will mind when you turn that in!'. Why I was I don't know, it's 03:47 here and was time for bed ages ago..
 
EricNau said:
I know; I was being facetious.
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I don't believe you. I think you're just being facetious in saying this.

MrSmith said:
I'm disappointed in you, Doc. There are a lot of students here who look up to you. You should be more careful with your advice. 😀
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How do you think I got an advanced degree?

No, I don't mean I copied someone else's homework. I sold my homework to everyone else, then used the cash to bribe my professors to look the other way. Then I discovered you could just forge a diploma in Photoshop rather than go to school at all. And then... well, we're getting off topic.
 
EricNau said:
Do I hear an echo? 😛

Although, it's become clear to me that my attempts at a joke failed miserably. I'll never do it again, I promise!
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I thought it was amusing, but the mods have absolutely no sense of humour. I should know, I've attempted to post +1-esque replies (only in this thread as a joke!) a couple of times now but they didn't see the funny side 😛
 
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