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10,000,000 Songs Sold via iTunes Music Store
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Re: Re: Re: Impressive
3.5% overall users.
% in US? Call it 50%.
% with Jaguar? Call it 30% (20% was the target for January I believe)
By my count, that's about 0.52% of all computer users.
Even giving 75% installed base in the US and 50% of all users using Jaguar and iTunes4, you still end up with 1.3% ...
So, yes, 10M songs to at or less than one percent of the computer-using market is pretty darned neat.
Of course, IMHO, those Mac users without Jaguar are significantly less likely to use iTMS anyways, as are those hordes of Windows 95/98 users out there ... which significantly reduces the potential market size.
Which means, you'll never get to 100% of the installed home computers out there ... maybe closer to 50% with the ability to use the product and ~25% with the desire to use it.
Originally posted by AppleMatt
Apple's consumer market share is currently hovering around 3.5%, it's been going up for the last two years.
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/09/20030904111142.shtml
But I agree, it's still very impressive
3.5% overall users.
% in US? Call it 50%.
% with Jaguar? Call it 30% (20% was the target for January I believe)
By my count, that's about 0.52% of all computer users.
Even giving 75% installed base in the US and 50% of all users using Jaguar and iTunes4, you still end up with 1.3% ...
So, yes, 10M songs to at or less than one percent of the computer-using market is pretty darned neat.
Of course, IMHO, those Mac users without Jaguar are significantly less likely to use iTMS anyways, as are those hordes of Windows 95/98 users out there ... which significantly reduces the potential market size.
Which means, you'll never get to 100% of the installed home computers out there ... maybe closer to 50% with the ability to use the product and ~25% with the desire to use it.
Ten millionth song choice ...
I dunno. It fits Apple's competition too well to have been a chance purchase. I suspect that someone had a trigger so that when the 9.9* millionth song was sold the next song sold would be the one that goes "Why'd ya have to make things so complicated" ...
Makes for a good press release, the first biggie after BuyMusic et al joined in the fray.
As a dot-commer I've seen the likes of this a few too many times to think that "Complicated" was a chance buy ...
I dunno. It fits Apple's competition too well to have been a chance purchase. I suspect that someone had a trigger so that when the 9.9* millionth song was sold the next song sold would be the one that goes "Why'd ya have to make things so complicated" ...
Makes for a good press release, the first biggie after BuyMusic et al joined in the fray.
As a dot-commer I've seen the likes of this a few too many times to think that "Complicated" was a chance buy ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Impressive
but 25% of all the computers in the world is an astronomically HUGE number (can't even guess how big) - that's a lot of songs to download.
but 25% of all the computers in the world is an astronomically HUGE number (can't even guess how big) - that's a lot of songs to download.
Hey, don't forget that approximately half of all sales on iTMS are album sales. A lot of albums have 16 or 18 tracks, making the cost per song just $0.50 or less. I myself have purchased albums to songs at a 70:30 ratio, so I am definitely paying less than $0.99 per song on average.
10 millions songs is still a great number, though. I doubt buymusic.com has even hit 1 million yet. It's probably not even close.
Bottom line - since half of all sales on iTMS are album sales, the average price of a song is much less than $0.99.
10 millions songs is still a great number, though. I doubt buymusic.com has even hit 1 million yet. It's probably not even close.
Bottom line - since half of all sales on iTMS are album sales, the average price of a song is much less than $0.99.
I'll state this, though somebody else has already.
You don't need 10.2 installed to use iTMS. I've done it on 10.1. The single feature requiring Jaguar is sharing via Rendezvous.
You don't need 10.2 installed to use iTMS. I've done it on 10.1. The single feature requiring Jaguar is sharing via Rendezvous.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Impressive
Ooo!! Nice analogy! I'm going to have to remember that one...
Originally posted by AppleMatt
Anyway, of course everyone copies Apple. Microsoft may own 95% of the boat, but Apple's 5% is the rudder
AppleMatt
Ooo!! Nice analogy! I'm going to have to remember that one...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Impressive
Seriously... you guys do know about the edit function, right? Just press the quote button, copy it, edit your own post... ah well, I'm preaching and I'm hungry. Not that helpful.
THough that is quite a nice analogy.
Ooo!! Nice double post!
Seriously... you guys do know about the edit function, right? Just press the quote button, copy it, edit your own post... ah well, I'm preaching and I'm hungry. Not that helpful.THough that is quite a nice analogy.
You are correct.
However, I misspoke with 20-30% market penetration for Jaguar; that is Apple's stated (20% as of January and extrapolating on to date) market penetration of OS X overall, both 10.1 and 10.2 (and 10.0 although I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't have updated to 10.1!)
I have a feeling when ITMS arrives for windoze a new tech will be announced as well. Like a new 5 channel standard for music...
the music industry is faultering because it didn't embrace technology fast enough (too busy counting the cash).
A new technology will save it.
I remember there was talk of discreet channel support in the next release of QT...
the music industry is faultering because it didn't embrace technology fast enough (too busy counting the cash).
A new technology will save it.
I remember there was talk of discreet channel support in the next release of QT...
Amen, without Moonshine Records in there, there's no point in even having an Electronica section.
What do you propose the stores call it? There aren't exactly enough Drum and Base, Trance, Breakbeat, House... etc. albums to have a whole aisle.
It's Electronic because it's not from traditional instruments. Get over it.
Re: Electronica is not Dance
Dance and Electronica in the states is two different things. Dance is more like Pop and Disco. Electronic is mostly Club music. It is called Dance at most music stores. But is it so wrong to call Metal rock? To call Salsa latin?
Dance and Electronica in the states is two different things. Dance is more like Pop and Disco. Electronic is mostly Club music. It is called Dance at most music stores. But is it so wrong to call Metal rock? To call Salsa latin?
Re: Re: Electronica is not Dance
thanks for the info, Dance in the UK is a broader term .... anything you can dance to. Electronica still has is roots in the 60s/70s Synth era.
thanks for the info, Dance in the UK is a broader term .... anything you can dance to. Electronica still has is roots in the 60s/70s Synth era.
Re: Re: Re: Electronica is not Dance
"Anything you can dance to" is a bit of a broad church. I jigged a bit once to "I got a brand new combine harvester" by the Wurzels. Does that come under Dance?
"Anything you can dance to" is a bit of a broad church. I jigged a bit once to "I got a brand new combine harvester" by the Wurzels. Does that come under Dance?
boston fox25 SCREWS UP BADDLY
fox25 in boston made a report on their 10 o'clock news about illegal music downloaders being pinched today... and among the morpheus and napster screens, they showed, quite predominantly Apple's iTunes Music Store. Umm... hey fox25... thats for LEGAL music procurement. i think you screwed up.
go to www.fox25.com and let them know about this screw up...
fox25 in boston made a report on their 10 o'clock news about illegal music downloaders being pinched today... and among the morpheus and napster screens, they showed, quite predominantly Apple's iTunes Music Store. Umm... hey fox25... thats for LEGAL music procurement. i think you screwed up.
go to www.fox25.com and let them know about this screw up...
Probably not. The whole reason for the delay in launching iTMS for Europe or Canada are the regional rights issue. To even use iTMS, you need to have a credit card with a U.S. billing address.
Presumably, to use iTMS Europe, you'll need a card with a Euro address.
Unfortunately, as it is a huge inconvenience to users who want nothing better than to be able to scour the world for music (I personally listen to a lot of Japanese, Korean, and Chinese pop music along with the usual Western stuff), but that's how the music monopolies want it (just take a look at how Hollywood has inflicted the DVD regional encoding on the world).
Presumably, to use iTMS Europe, you'll need a card with a Euro address.
Unfortunately, as it is a huge inconvenience to users who want nothing better than to be able to scour the world for music (I personally listen to a lot of Japanese, Korean, and Chinese pop music along with the usual Western stuff), but that's how the music monopolies want it (just take a look at how Hollywood has inflicted the DVD regional encoding on the world).
Woah! I didn't mean to get you all going crazy
Well my point was the term electronica is a coined US media phrase. Check with the guys in detroit (Jeff Mills etc) or the guys on the miami bass/electro scene (Aux 88 etc) (; ask them if the would call it "electronica"?. In Australia and the UK (as NavyIntel007 mentiones) harder edged stuff is refered to as dance in general and your US version of dance is simply pop/top40 crud. It would have been better if the genre was called electronic on iTMS instead since we are not going to go silly and label all the sub-genres.
You are exactly right; it still isnt electronica though (Im picky about this, it makes me mad (obsessive?; well maybe)). Its electronic because its formed from synthetic waveforms!
Moonshine, City of Angels, Outpost, XL Recordings Botchit & Scarper, Fused & Bruised, React and Jivelectro etc all definately require permanent homes on iTMS.
some of my favorite artists:
ILS
The Globe
Jackyl & Hyde
überzone
Evil 9
Hardknox
Luke Slater (well only the Wireless album)
Timo Maas
False Prophets
Maxim (Keity Palmer)
No One Ever Really Dies (Nerd/Neptunes)
Scissorkicks (Hardest Compressing on drums!)
Well my point was the term electronica is a coined US media phrase. Check with the guys in detroit (Jeff Mills etc) or the guys on the miami bass/electro scene (Aux 88 etc) (; ask them if the would call it "electronica"?. In Australia and the UK (as NavyIntel007 mentiones) harder edged stuff is refered to as dance in general and your US version of dance is simply pop/top40 crud. It would have been better if the genre was called electronic on iTMS instead since we are not going to go silly and label all the sub-genres.
You are exactly right; it still isnt electronica though (Im picky about this, it makes me mad (obsessive?; well maybe)). Its electronic because its formed from synthetic waveforms!
Moonshine, City of Angels, Outpost, XL Recordings Botchit & Scarper, Fused & Bruised, React and Jivelectro etc all definately require permanent homes on iTMS.
some of my favorite artists:
ILS
The Globe
Jackyl & Hyde
überzone
Evil 9
Hardknox
Luke Slater (well only the Wireless album)
Timo Maas
False Prophets
Maxim (Keity Palmer)
No One Ever Really Dies (Nerd/Neptunes)
Scissorkicks (Hardest Compressing on drums!)
So, what is your worst iTunes -ouch i really downloaded it - musical sin.
I downloaded a Shania Twain CD. Kept the girlfriend happy though ...
I downloaded a Shania Twain CD. Kept the girlfriend happy though ...
