10.11.2 El Capitan Update Issue?

[crjackson2134]

I'll take his certified opinion over your "Apple Apologetic" thinking. You have to be a technician to tackle Apple installs these days. I would love to move to El Capitan, but I dont have days of free time to diagnose and fix issues. The consensus I have read is "DONT UPGRADE".

You stated no facts, just attitude.

You really need to apply this to yourself. Then place me on your ignore list. You obviously aren't a technical person, and don't belong in a technical forum. You need to take your computers to someone who can trouble shoot without all the emotions. For you, I agree... Now isn't the time to upgrade. In fact, since you can't be bothered to fix any issues, you shouldn't EVER upgrade any of your software or hardware. You should always go to a technician.

 

[Riwam]

My answer to that is: "Many, many people here are idiots."

*****
I must agree with you.
Absolutely true fact.
No need to look for further proof.
Whoever can post such a judgment so easely about other users of this forum as you did is certainly one.
And a big one.

 

[Riwam]

I appreciate the polite dialogue.

When I have made my comments I have tried to be careful not to dismiss those who have problems, as that is not my intention and I do not think people are just making things up. But I do think the vast majority of these problems can be handled with some basic troubleshooting steps to figure out what is wrong rather than just revert to "El Capitan is awful."

I suspect Apple's implementation of system integrity protection (SIP) caused more software conflicts than previous OS X updates did and that contributes to the problem. I had to disable the utility Bartender for a few days until the dev. did a SIP compatible update for example.

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I never implied that you take other people's problems in a light way.
I know you respect them.
However I am sorry to repeat myself telling things I already post.

I find ridiculous, for instance, what I had to do (after a clean install of El Capitan, since an upgrade did not let me shut down my nMP) just to install Windows 10 in my Mac, after many failures to do it through the BootCamp I got with El Capitan, which stopped every Windows installation because the existing and already NTFS formated partition was not recognized:
1) make an external clone drive of El Capitan
2) erase El Capitan from my inner drive
3) reinstall Yosemite temporarily into it with the Installer I had kept
4) install through that working BootCamp Windows 8.1 and update it to Windows 10
5) boot from the external El Capitan drive
6) erase the Yosemite in my inner drive
7) clone back El Capitan into it
8) check it with DiskWarrior (just to be sure the system was still OK)

I did not get any feed back when I asked if other people were having the same BootCamp problems I had.
However I cannot see any logical reason why it didn't work directly from El Capitan in my system, and I do not see any relationship to the SIP feature which you believe might be behind most problems, but I am no expert, I agree and respect your knowkedge.
However if I had to disable SIP to succeed from the beginning, then my repeatedly failing original BootCamp should have warned me to do that.

I suppose that looking for help from Apple to install Windows
or from Microsoft to use BootCamp
would have brought not much...if anything at all.

So I was left on my own...and the only thing I could find was that akward round-the-block procedure which led me to my goal...but certainly not in the direct and easy way it should have been, if El Capitan and all its included utilities actually worked as they should work.
Ed

 

[George Dawes]

Serious HDMI problems with 10.11.2 - this os is UTTER CRAP UTTER CRAPPPPPPPPPP

Now I have to hard restart my mini every time I want to turn the amp off !!

Everything else works with the amp - a mini running Yosemite ( sticking with that for the foreseeable future now ) , a mac pro running mountain lion , a ps3 ,a ps4 and an x box 360...

Pathetic - does apple test any of it's software anymore !?!?!?

 

[brodoff]

The update to El Capitan completely destroyed my system. It took me 2 weeks to get things resolved and regain access to my computer- a fairly new 27 inch iMac. I am not a noob. I can pretty much handle anything that comes up

But now the OS X 10.11.2 update has destroyed my computer AGAIN! When I start up there is almost no access to anything., A finder window opens BEFORE the back screen. The dock is empty except for black space some questions marks and generic A icon. opening any folder take 10 minutes. The Applications folder is empty except for Mail and a Utilities folder. Applications will not open but report as damaged. I tried Safe rebook, running recovery Disk Doctor and reinstalling OS X - no help- then I booted from an external drive, ran Disk Doctor apps and Teck Tool and Disk Warrior- took care of the small things reported- remove plists and xmld by hand - then even removed finder and dock plist fils.to DiskWarrior and Tech Tools the disk is reported as fine. Disk Doctor was also reporting it as fine but the last time I ran it now reports that there is a problem and I should back up the desk and reformat. I am prepared do this, though the process will take me days. However I am furious at Apple and at this crap ElCapitan system
Any ideas?
As well if I back up the reformat and reinstall, will I be reinstalling the problems? How can I tell? The main drive is a fusion drive btw

 

[George Dawes]

I was able to use internet recovery to go back to Yosemite with one of my macs , sadly it didn't work on the other and that ones completely buggered...

I assumed it was problems with the hdmi out to a monitor but the fact it's affecting an iMac is very worrying ....

Good luck !

 

[m4v3r1ck]

Why not back-up all virgin installers of OS X releases and updates/upgrades on a external disk enclosure.

Or make USB install disks of the them?

This way you would not be dependend on what the MAS has to offer!

Cheers and Happy Holidays.

 

[crjackson2134]

Why not back-up all virgin installers of OS X releases and updates/upgrades on a external disk enclosure.

Or make USB install disks of the them?

This way you would not be dependend on what the MAS has to offer!

Cheers and Happy Holidays.

That's exactly what I do.

 

[Gochugogi]

I updated my spouse's 2014 Mini to 10.11.2 and all is well after several days of hard use. Aperture was crashing under 10.11.1 and needed a restart daily. Aperture is now stable and--amazingly--a little faster when using brushes. The Photos app is a loser since it lacks selective area adjustments (only global adjustments). An ancient PhotoShop CS5.1 and Premiere 11 still work fine. No problems with USB drives not mounting and Mail and Safari run like a top. The only complaint about 10.11.2 is the Photos app still opens every time a CF/SD card is inserted albeit we disabled Photos and selected Aperture as host app in Image Capture and Photos. Guess Apple wants everybody to switch to their crappy Photos app.