10.11 is...wow.

Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by TechGod, Jun 11, 2015.

  1. TechGod macrumors 68040


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
    Don't know what magic Apple has puled here, the late 2013 rMBP 13" that I had has always lagged but this fresh install of 10.11 is quite honestly amazing for the performance.
  2. costica1234 macrumors member

    May 21, 2013
    Indeed. I also installed it last evening on my brand new mid-2015 15 inch since Yosemite was simply unusable. Safari was lagging so much, mission control was super choppy, even on this brand new machine. El Cap looks like it's going to fix most of the annoyances of Yosemite, so looking forward to the next betas.
  3. TechGod thread starter macrumors 68040


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
    I hope that the later betas get even faster and smoother.
  4. Crunch macrumors 6502a


    Jun 26, 2008
    Crazy L.A.
    I agree. So far, smooth sailing. Except for Mail. It crashes on me a lot. Love the new Notes app, but let's be honest, that's not innovation. I think Apple might be out of gas with OS X.
  5. soupcan macrumors 6502a


    Nov 21, 2014
    So Apple did its job improving Yosemite? Good.

    Also, innovation doesn't always come with new features. It can also be under the hood performance upgrades.
  6. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

    Oct 24, 2013
    Apple stated quite clearly that this iteration of OSX would not be about innovation or new features and much more about speed stability and fixing bugs. That in no way means they have run out steam with OSX it just means they have a sensible attitude to how often new things need to be introduced. If you are going to have a new OS update every year it seems sensible to have one year of new stuff then the next year sorting out the coding etc. Personally I'd rather they got it right first time and released a new one every 18 months - 2 years but that just doesn't seem to be the way its going.
  7. kappaknight macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2009
    I mean, that's basically what they're doing. But marketing just wants it to appear new. Naming it El Capitan, which is within Yosemite is basically like the S version of the phones. It's an slight improvement over the existing version, but treating it as new.

  8. Taz Mangus macrumors 68040

    Taz Mangus

    Mar 10, 2011
    Slight improvement over 10.10? More like a huge improvement from what I have reading so far. I am really looking forward to the public release of 10.11.
  9. adcx64 macrumors 65816


    Nov 17, 2008
    I'm happy they're going for the snow leopard approach with El Cap. The OS feels less bloated and more fine tuned.
  10. zOne31 macrumors regular

    May 21, 2012
    I don't understand all these lag issues for people running Yosemite. I have a 2012 13" MBA and I have never had a problem with any Apple app in Yosemite. It's always been snappy for me (except for maybe the first couple Public Betas). From what others have been saying about El Capitan, I just can't imagine it being even faster. Still, looking forward to the new features especially for Notes, Safari pinned tabs, and Photos geotagging.
  11. lambertjohn macrumors 6502a

    Jun 17, 2012
    I'm running Yosemite on a 2010 15" Macbook. Never had a problem. Snappy as hell. I keep wanting to get something newer, but it's hard to get rid of something that works as well as some of the newer MacBooks. Thumbs up for Yosemite!
  12. Zakzilla macrumors member


    May 11, 2015
    Los Angeles
    I had a 2010 as well, I just upgraded to a 2015 15" w/ dGPU, and it's a significant difference. The frame-rate for the OS is probably double of the 2010, nearly 60fps all the time -- everything feels more 'buttery'.

    And from what it sounds like, El Capitan is going to increase that even more.
  13. CmdrLaForge macrumors 601


    Feb 26, 2003
    around the world
    You could do just that. Install only every other OS
  14. Ebenezum macrumors 6502a

    Mar 31, 2015
    Since Yosemite has been very problematic I seriously hope 10.11 will bring much needed speed into OS X. If it doesn't my iMac will stay in 10.9 which has no problems with speed.

    My Mac Mini 2014 is basically unusable slow with stock hard drive with Yosemite, I installed SSD into a USB3 enclosure and it helped a lot but I am very upset that Apple didn't bother to test Yosemite properly with hard drive. I am considering to taking it back to store and demanding my money back!:mad:
  15. Theophil1971 macrumors 6502


    Mar 20, 2015
    Ya, I think that most of the issues with UI lag and stuttering are seen on laptops with Retina displays. So many more pixels to push, it's taking up a lot more GPU resources, and causes some of the animations and transitions in the UI to look a bit choppy on the Retina displays running in HiDPI
  16. ErikGrim macrumors 68040


    Jun 20, 2003
    Brisbane, Australia
    It's a huge improvement. You can feel the speed boost even on the high end retina 5K. Even moreso on lower end models.

    The full screen split is already immensely useful for me using Espresso for web dev work. Same with the responsive mode in Safari.
  17. redheeler macrumors 604


    Oct 17, 2014
    Good to know, I haven't touched my main Mac with it yet. It feels a bit more smooth on my 13" rMBP than Yosemite was, which is an impressive feat for such an early beta.
  18. anp27 macrumors regular

    Jan 17, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    I turned all the eye candy back on and everything is still very smooth. Then I turned it back off because I've gotten so used to not using it..
  19. joaotomas macrumors newbie

    Jan 30, 2015
    I have a macbook air 2014 to run mavericks because Yosemite is very bad. Very little lag optimization. Installed on an external disk El Capitan and ... WOW very very good. And we talk about the same beta 1. Brutal. Very fast very stable and optimized.
  20. TechGod thread starter macrumors 68040


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
    I know. Apple really has increased the performance...
  21. sammich macrumors 601


    Sep 26, 2006
    It must be why they developed Metal for OS X (but I don't think they've mentioned it anywhere). It's a natural progression from iOS, but with the much more complex UI of desktop, not to mention higher resolutions, the performance improvements would be drastic. I'm waiting until DP2 to get it for myself. I don't often see the stuttering on my 15" rMBP since I'm always on external, but the performance will nice to see regardless.
  22. navaira macrumors 68040


    May 28, 2015
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    On my Mac Pro Yosemite is fast and smooth, but I still can't wait to see Cappy's performance. Expectations set high.
  23. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    This is good news for my 2012 rMBP. I'm still rocking with Yosemite and my 2009 Mac mini is on mavericks so that might be something I consider as well once the it comes out for general consumption.
  24. jeanlain macrumors 65816

    Mar 14, 2009
    I haven't used Yosemite on my personal Macs so I don't know about all the performance issues. The issues I've seen on all Macs, even the most recent ones, was poor resizing and scrolling performance in the Finder and other apps, and poor performance when switching preference panes.
    I hope 10.11 solves this.
  25. dugbug macrumors 65816


    Aug 23, 2008
    Somewhere in Florida
    Oh for gods sake you love the new notes app but it's not innovation. What is it with some of you. Notes is about notes not blowing your mind

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