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Originally posted by iJon

Believe me i looked. i even found an article on macentral.com on it and how beta people couldnt install it. but at the time i hadnt installed 6f17 which i had downloaded. when i opened the dmg file i noticed a small thing in the readme about having to downgrade. did that and everything worked fine. im sorry guys i didnt mention i had access to adc and i should have because i know how angry you guys get about pirated software. thought i could have been some help to some people who installed the beta versions, pirated or not. sorry again.

iJon

Not a problem thank you for explaining your situation.

It's just that if you want your rights trampeled on just abuse them. That is exactly what piraters are doing. The rest of us will pay for there unjust deeds.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit


Not a problem thank you for explaining your situation.

It's just that if you want your rights trampeled on just abuse them. That is exactly what piraters are doing. The rest of us will pay for there unjust deeds.
Well said MacBandit. I completely know how you feel. its good to know we cleared that up. No hard feelings.

iJon
 
Originally posted by 8thDegreeSavage
IM still confused about the idea of pirating something that is free.....I dont understand that logic.

Just because it doesn't cost anything doesn't mean it's free.

Apple doesn't post beta releases to the general public but, rather, a select few ADC members. As part of the user agreement either with the download's EULA and/or through the ADC EULA these selected few are obligated to NOT give out Apple's IP which the beta release squarly falls-under.

Many people download these beta releases by means non-sanctioned by Apple. This, in effect, is theft of Apple's IP.

Is this the same thing as downloading Photoshop? Legally speaking (and IANAL), yes. Do you really think Apple cares that extra people are beta testing thier product? Probably not unless these people are dumb enough to call tech support and gripe that it broke thier system and you can be sure that there are more than a few with each beta release.

I've decided to spare you the rant about 'free-as-in-beer' vs. 'free-as-in-speech' software. Be happy.
 
Re: Re: Big improvement on Sherlock.

Originally posted by idkew


My guess is you have a new LCD iMac. To do a force restart, hold the power button in for about 10 seconds, or until it turns off. then just turn her back on.

Thanks. I'll try that the next time I need to force re-start. I wonder why Apple chose not to include that button on the new iMacs. Did they think the iMacs would be invincible or what? Anyway, off the topic so no one need respond; just thinking out loud.
 
Originally posted by mdurell


Just because it doesn't cost anything doesn't mean it's free.

Apple doesn't post beta releases to the general public but, rather, a select few ADC members. As part of the user agreement either with the download's EULA and/or through the ADC EULA these selected few are obligated to NOT give out Apple's IP which the beta release squarly falls-under.

Many people download these beta releases by means non-sanctioned by Apple. This, in effect, is theft of Apple's IP.

Is this the same thing as downloading Photoshop? Legally speaking (and IANAL), yes. Do you really think Apple cares that extra people are beta testing thier product? Probably not unless these people are dumb enough to call tech support and gripe that it broke thier system and you can be sure that there are more than a few with each beta release.

I've decided to spare you the rant about 'free-as-in-beer' vs. 'free-as-in-speech' software. Be happy.



Your the only person on this thread that has explained it within reason. Thank you.
 
Originally posted by mojobreakfast


Nice try. Journaling has nothing to do, intrinsically, with UNIX "file systems". Also, a journaling file system will not help you recover from "any" sort of crash. It might help avoid extended disk constistency checks under certain circumstances but it is not foolproof.

You are correct.

In fact, Windows NT/2K/XP NTFS File System is a journaling file system.

Think of it like this. When you have a journaled file system, the file system is maintained sort of like a large database...

TL
 
Originally posted by TechLarry


You are correct.

In fact, Windows NT/2K/XP NTFS File System is a journaling file system.

Think of it like this. When you have a journaled file system, the file system is maintained sort of like a large database...

TL

True, except the NTFS (and apparently HFS+) JFS implementations only journal disk-level file writes, not application-level file writes.

In other words, wheras with a database if you changed 100 rows and the power went out before you hit "commit", those rows would be lost (and if the power went out after you hit "commit" but before commit returned, the changes would be committed after power returns), if you open an existing file in NTFS, write a bunch of data, then the power goes out, when you get the machine back up you have a file with a bunch of new data, then a bunch of old data (which, generally speaking, means a file that is unusable).

So it's not quite like a database. The file allocation table (or whatever index you want to call it) is like a database, but not the file system itself.

On the other hand, perhaps Longhorn or Blackcomb (the 2003/4 and 2005 Windows releases ... one of which is supposed to reimplement the file system as a database) might fix that.
 
Has anyone had problems with the date and time since doing this update? Everytime I wake my old 400Mhz DV iMac up the date and time refuses to change from the time it last went to sleep- also Internet Connect wont work until I re-set it to the correct time. It didn't do this before 10.2.2.!
 
Originally posted by Griffindor73
Has anyone had problems with the date and time since doing this update? Everytime I wake my old 400Mhz DV iMac up the date and time refuses to change from the time it last went to sleep- also Internet Connect wont work until I re-set it to the correct time. It didn't do this before 10.2.2.!
Nope. No problems here (TiBook 667).

Chris
 
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