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10.2.2 is out through Software Update...

NOT HAPPY APPLE

Spent two and a half hours downloading it on my modem...

It finishes downloading, when an error pops up!
"The installer has encounted an error. Please select Install Checked Items from the Update Menu"

As you can understand I'm Pretty pissed off.

It seems software update problems are quite common.

Does anyone know why it is not available from their website?
 
just installed 10.2.2 and it went VERY smooth, and right away I saw difference with my Epson printer, before I installed 10.2.2 I had a lot of problems printing, sometimes it would just refuse to print, I would have to cancel the jobs and print again, NOW it prints right away the FIRST time.
 
Originally posted by edesignuk

Is a journaling filesystem something that a regular home user wants? Are there any down sides?

Thanks.
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it slows disk operations down because of the extra overhead...

as for whether or not a home user cares.... not sure yet... :)

arn
 
Originally posted by arn


it slows disk operations down because of the extra overhead...

as for whether or not a home user cares.... not sure yet... :)

arn
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Thanks arn. I think I'll give it a miss for the time being then, I'e been fine so far without it, and I'll carry on being fine without it :)
 
hmmm...

when i was installing 10.2.2 via Software Update, my computer locked up hard, which it's never done. I had to reinstall 10.2 from CD which archived the old install (since I had 10.2.1 on). Now, with a fresh install, the machine's locked up twice hard (can't force quit, can't select anything, but mouse still moves). Only drivers i installed were Epson Print, Scanner, and M-Audio Delta 1010, which never locked up in 10.1.5 or 10.2/10.2.1. Weird.
 
Journaling hints to the Storage rack

Well. I thought that how in the earth would Apple launch storage solution if it doesn't have journaling. Therefore - expect storage unit announced soon.
 
Originally posted by alset
Originally posted by edesignuk
Got it! What's the journalling filesystem thing all about? :confused:

It's a UNIX file system of sorts. It keeps logs in great detail about EVERYTHING that happens on a machine. I believe this is supposed to allow you to restore the machine to a given state after any sort of crash, etc. Word is that it reduces disk/system speed in the area of (I think) 15%. Not something the average user is likely to be very interested in.
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Journaling filesystems do not have anything, inherently, to do with UNIX. Some of the more visible implementations of such filesystems of late are indeed in the Linux community. Apple hired the fellow who created BeOS' journaling filesystem a while back to implement such a filesystem on OS X and here we see it's debut.

Here's one explanation of what a JFS is.


blakespot
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no problems here updating 3 Macs to 10.2.2.

sherlock is snappier - but i don't ever really use it. my epson printer works perfectly now (instead of sometimes having to delete the printer and then adding it again in order to print) - everything seems cool here.

no journaling for me thanks :) but nice it's there.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit



It's not so much as so what. It's more like yes you did steal a developer copy of a pre release system. Then I announced to the world that I did it. Now I'm wondering why they want to copyright protect everything. DUH!!!!
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Its like the other guy said, i forgot to look at what him screen name was again. I do have legal access to ADC and the beta builds of 10.2.2. I just had a problem with updating and apple has already acknowledged this problem. i found out you just needed the downgraders and i was just wondering before i found this out if anyone had gotten 6f21 on their existing 6fx system. so dont go preaching to me before you ask me. i know you guys didnt know but now you do. no hard feelings. just needed some help.

iJon
 
I want me theater back

Well I really dont see much improvment on my side. Sherlock no longer shows my favorite movie theater on the list:( Things seem somewhat faster,,,but it is nothing to jizz in your pant over. Downloading the update went very smooth for me (always does). Oooo,, all my stock listings are gone. Only the Apple stck remains. This is no biggie,, just a pain in the ass.
 
Originally posted by iJon


Its like the other guy said, i forgot to look at what him screen name was again. I do have legal access to ADC and the beta builds of 10.2.2. I just had a problem with updating and apple has already acknowledged this problem. i found out you just needed the downgraders and i was just wondering before i found this out if anyone had gotten 6f21 on their existing 6fx system. so dont go preaching to me before you ask me. i know you guys didnt know but now you do. no hard feelings. just needed some help.

iJon
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It would be a good thing in the future to mention that you are part of the ADC. Piracy is a huge no no on this website and is not condoned at all. The reason I believed you pirated it was you were asking on how to upgrade. Seems to me that a member of the ADC would ask Apple how to upgrade not us. Anyway you have explained it and thanks.
 
Big improvement on Sherlock.

Since I live in Japan, the changes to Sherlock especially stood out for me. Now I can get local information as well as information from my native U.S. Cool! Didn't experience any of the upgrade problems the rest of you seem to be having. I guess I was just lucky. I installed it (10.2.2) on my 17inch iMac through Software Update without a hitch. The only thing I use for system enhancement is TransparentDock and it hasn't given me any troubles thus far.

On another note, anyone know how to Force Re-start an iMac? There is no re-start button (that I could find) and the ususal cmd+control+powr button doesn't seem to work. Ocassionally iDVD crashes and I have to re-start. So far I've been just pulling out the power cord but I know that can't be good for my system.
 
Re: Big improvement on Sherlock.

Originally posted by Marvenp


On another note, anyone know how to Force Re-start an iMac? There is no re-start button (that I could find) and the ususal cmd+control+powr button doesn't seem to work. Ocassionally iDVD crashes and I have to re-start. So far I've been just pulling out the power cord but I know that can't be good for my system.
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My guess is you have a new LCD iMac. To do a force restart, hold the power button in for about 10 seconds, or until it turns off. then just turn her back on.
 
Originally posted by edesignuk
Full explination of journaling from Apple themselves; here.
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Hmmm ... Sounds like Apple went the NTFS route (just file integrity checking, not data consistency assurance) instead of the full JFS route seen in ext3 (Linux's JFS implementation).

So, if you read my points earlier on about how a true JFS does more than just ensure that you don't have to do a file consistency check after a crash ... well, Apple says that's all their JFS is designed to avoid, so disregard my comments to the contrary.

Assuming Apple knows what it is talking about, the JFS will have virtually no significance to the home user. Has anyone here ever seen the file consistency check fail (I mean, both find an error and not be able to repair it)? Personally, I haven't, but then I also haven't crashed my Mac in quite a while (not since I rid myself of OS 9, in fact!) That is the one possibility that HFS+Journaling would prevent: an unrecoverable file system inconsistency.

For a home user, the extra time checking the file system on occasion might be an annoyance, but unless you are rebooting often or have to be able to get your machine back up instantly when you do (as a server would need), not more annoying than the overall disk slowdown that the JFS will cause.

On the other hand, the more restricted JFS implementation isn't the same performance hit that a full JFS implementation would be. It would be interesting to see some benchmark numbers there.
 
Well after a night of 10.2.2.. I am THROUGHLY mad. . I have never been dissapointed with an update until now.. All i know is the update made it so that I cannot view ANY PDF files in preview.. i've tried everything to get them to work and nothing.. it locks up and I have to force quit.. and in iChat.. when someone tries connecting to me from AIM It AUTOMATICALLY logs me off.. Apple.. test your stuff before you release it.. real stuff.. I don't care if journaling works or whatever.. the standard end users want things like iChat and Preview to work.

ugh
 
Originally posted by insidedanshead
Well after a night of 10.2.2.. I am THROUGHLY mad. . I have never been dissapointed with an update until now.. All i know is the update made it so that I cannot view ANY PDF files in preview.. i've tried everything to get them to work and nothing.. it locks up and I have to force quit.. and in iChat.. when someone tries connecting to me from AIM It AUTOMATICALLY logs me off.. Apple.. test your stuff before you release it.. real stuff.. I don't care if journaling works or whatever.. the standard end users want things like iChat and Preview to work.

ugh
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Sorry to hear about all your problems....you be p*ssed to hear that mine went perfectly and is still running as smooth and stable as ever! ...Sorry :cool:
 
Haha.. no I'm not pissed.. there been plenty of people who have had problems out there that I just could never imagine having.. could any of you try that though? Have somone on AIM direct connect to you on iChat.. or try opening a PDF in preview.. let me know your results..
 
Originally posted by insidedanshead
...could any of you try that though? Have somone on AIM direct connect to you on iChat.. or try opening a PDF in preview.. let me know your results..
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I've opened plenty of PDF's in Preview with no trouble at all.
 
10.2.2

Seems like there're some big inclusions in .two :D

Is the Journaling system the best of these?

Apple's .2 update page really appears to show a robust upgrade.

I really got the impression that Rendevous and the Digital Hub are here. Seems sometimes like people are noticing, while other times not. I find when I read the MacRumors posts, there's a good amount of extra incite into such changes. That's when I get the full picture and in the words of Emeril... BAM!

The AddressBook and Mail improvements alone would be worth it, but look at all the other stuff... thanks Apple.

:cool:
 
Originally posted by MacBandit



It would be a good thing in the future to mention that you are part of the ADC. Piracy is a huge no no on this website and is not condoned at all. The reason I believed you pirated it was you were asking on how to upgrade. Seems to me that a member of the ADC would ask Apple how to upgrade not us. Anyway you have explained it and thanks.
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Believe me i looked. i even found an article on macentral.com on it and how beta people couldnt install it. but at the time i hadnt installed 6f17 which i had downloaded. when i opened the dmg file i noticed a small thing in the readme about having to downgrade. did that and everything worked fine. im sorry guys i didnt mention i had access to adc and i should have because i know how angry you guys get about pirated software. thought i could have been some help to some people who installed the beta versions, pirated or not. sorry again.

iJon
 
Apple Updates: A Perspective

It is getting to the point where I look forward to new updates. sometimes just knowing that my Mac is up to date and happy is enough for me.

I am amazed that so many people are having a hard time.

But this should put things into perspective:

I am the Director of Multimedia
(http://www.digirom.com - shameless plug!)
and I work on both Macs and PC's as everything I create must be cross platform. I often use my TiPowerbook 550 at work (It's the best machine in the office) and decided to update to 10.2.2.

Well I had noticed that the previous DoM had NEVER updated the win2k machines in my studio. I decided to update those as well.

My 10.2.2 update downloaded and installed in 45 minutes without an error.

The Win2K machines took over 3 hours to download and update due to having to restart every time a service pack was installed and multiple crashes during download and installs (Had to reinstall Win2K twice today) and start over.

Now doesn't that make all you feel so much better?

Hell it makes me feel a bit better.
 
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