Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

10.5.2 Install Disc

hmmm...

ungraphic said:
My problem? Have you not been reading the replies here? Its a well known fact that mac users contain a cult like approach, having 'holier than thou' sentiments. There are no other OS users out there, or people people who tie themselves greater to a computer company than apple fanboys. None, and you know this very well. I'm sick of it. Yes, apple produces a lot of very good stuff, and it also produces some pretty crappy stuff. However, this whole notion of belonging to apple and arrogance is pathetic; Hi, I'm a mac user and therefor I'm better than you.
Click to expand...

With comments like that, I'm surprised anyone would help you.

And yes, we mac users tend to think that way. Is it wrong? Maybe. Do we care? No.

If you knew the "well known fact that mac users contain a cult like approach", what did you expect when you asked your question?
 
ungraphic said:
Bla bla bla

3) No, installing, downloading or updating to 10.5.2 is, as we all know, peanuts. I was hoping to have a disc that has all the other crap ready, you know, to buy and be done with it.

Bla bla bla
Click to expand...

Could you explain this bit further please?
 
pknz said:
Could you explain this bit further please?
Click to expand...

Installing from a 10.5.0 or .1 disc of OS X and then running software update to get to 10.5.2 is easy, this doesnt take very long, I know. But Ive got a lot of crap all over my hard drive right now and installed leopard over tiger as an upgrade, not a fresh install, and then ran the 10.5.1 update. I want to format my hard drive and install 10.5.2 in one shot off a 10.5.2 disc.

I still dont understand why there are so many arrogant attentionwhores in this thread, a simple 'yes/no it will/wont be shipped' answer would have been enough. Ive seem some pretty pompous comments from mac users, these however, are amazing.
 
ungraphic said:
...I still dont understand why there are so many arrogant attentionwhores in this thread, a simple 'yes/no it will/wont be shipped' answer would have been enough. Ive seem some pretty pompous comments from mac users, these however, are amazing.
Click to expand...
And you tell us to stop? 🙄 Ohh the irony
 
If you have a second Mac or an external hard drive you could just make an installer image with a default user and all the updates to that point.

Not to mention the software update script we have here helps as well.
 
ungraphic said:
But Ive got a lot of crap all over my hard drive right now and installed leopard over tiger as an upgrade, not a fresh install, and then ran the 10.5.1 update. I want to format my hard drive and install 10.5.2 in one shot off a 10.5.2 disc.

I still dont understand why there are so many arrogant attentionwhores in this thread, a simple 'yes/no it will/wont be shipped' answer would have been enough. Ive seem some pretty pompous comments from mac users, these however, are amazing.
Click to expand...

It has nothing to do with arrogance. It's just silly on your part to expect that every point-update get rolled into a new retail-boxed release of OS X. How on earth would Apple manage that inventory nightmare? Every few releases there will be an update to the version included on the retail DVD—Tiger shipped as 10.4.0, 10.4.3, and 10.4.6 only. Even if you bought Tiger 3 months ago, you still would've had to update from 10.4.6 to 10.4.11.

A clean install of 10.5.0 updated to 10.5.2 will not have any problems. It is still, for all intents and purposes, a clean install—even more so if you apply the update before you restore all your documents and whatnot.

You just have slightly unrealistic expectations.
 
psonice said:
You think this is a mac problem? I install windows all the time at work, and even with an xp service pack 2 CD, I still need around 90 updates before it's patched! And that's without starting on the drivers...
Click to expand...
91. I just installed a clean copy of XP from a SP2 install disc. And that's not counting the optional .Net or media player upgrades, or the second run through that patches the stuff from the first set.

Not that it isn't mildly annoying to update right after install, but if you keep the latest combo updater around, that works quite well. And you're going to end up downloading updates for QT, iTunes, and probably one or two security updates anyway.
 
psonice said:
You think this is a mac problem? I install windows all the time at work, and even with an xp service pack 2 CD, I still need around 90 updates before it's patched! And that's without starting on the drivers...

It's actually quite a lot of work for apple to make a 10.5.2 retail disk. They'd need to combine the update with the original install, test it thoroughly on every supported mac, send it out to developers to test, change their manufacturing for the CDs and packaging. They're better off spending that time and effort on ensuring the updates work perfectly, which is what they do.

Having said that, I would want a 10.5.2 disk if I was on dial-up!
Click to expand...

Makosuke said:
91. I just installed a clean copy of XP from a SP2 install disc. And that's not counting the optional .Net or media player upgrades, or the second run through that patches the stuff from the first set.

Not that it isn't mildly annoying to update right after install, but if you keep the latest combo updater around, that works quite well. And you're going to end up downloading updates for QT, iTunes, and probably one or two security updates anyway.
Click to expand...
For Windows I just slipstream all those updates from here using nLite.
 
tersono said:
Whatever OS you buy, you're going to need to install updates at some point. it is unlikely that 10.5.2 will be rolled out into a retail DVD. It's far more likely that they'll wait for two or three more updates before they roll 'em into a new shrinkwrap release.
Click to expand...

The last I saw before Leopard was on the go. If I went to Amazon, Tiger was getting sold at version 10.4.6, so I'd imagine Leopard will be near the same.

No matter anyway. As Long as you have the full updates on disk. Who cares. Fresh install then apply the update. 🙂
 
Eidorian said:
For Windows I just slipstream all those updates from here using nLite.
Click to expand...
I used nLite to slipstream SP2 to prevent instant security breach upon install, but since I don't do that many clean Windows installs, even if I went to the trouble to slipstream all 91 updates, there'd still be several more recent patches to download by the time I actually used the install disc, so it's really not worth it to me. It's a lot easier to just let Windows Update run for a while on its own.

The only point I was making is that there are a whole hell of a lot of updates released since SP2. I'm a little surprised MS doesn't do some sort of combo update that bundles a bunch of them (a la Apple's .x.x combo updaters), but I suppose there's a reason for that.
 
Makosuke said:
I used nLite to slipstream SP2 to prevent instant security breach upon install, but since I don't do that many clean Windows installs, even if I went to the trouble to slipstream all 91 updates, there'd still be several more recent patches to download by the time I actually used the install disc, so it's really not worth it to me. It's a lot easier to just let Windows Update run for a while on its own.

The only point I was making is that there are a whole hell of a lot of updates released since SP2. I'm a little surprised MS doesn't do some sort of combo update that bundles a bunch of them (a la Apple's .x.x combo updaters), but I suppose there's a reason for that.
Click to expand...
It is a never ending battle to include the updates after a new Patch Tuesday comes around.

With a little work you can get around getting 91 of those updates and do an unattended install at least. 😛
 
WildCowboy said:
If I had to guess, I'd say they won't ever update the retail copies to ship with 10.5.2. They'll wait until a later revision to update them, since they just updated them to 10.5.1. Even that move was a bit of a surprise, since the Tiger retail version didn't get updated until 10.4.3, and then again at 10.4.6 and I believe at 10.4.9. I guess 10.5.0 had enough bugs that they wanted to get people moving straight into 10.5.1. Don't think they'll be doing that again soon.
Click to expand...

My guess is that the Time Machine issues were the reason for a quick refresh of the DVD. Every time the capabilities of Time Machine expand (Time Capsule, for instance), you need a new Mac OS DVD.
 
time waste

I thought we are wasting time trying to reply to a question thats nonexistent!
Just chill guys...why do we have to argue who is better or what is better or whose attitude is correct...
just get along and get things done easier, simpler and faster...

Just stay happy! 🙂
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back