Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
10.5.2 Safari Delay
- Thread starter imationx
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
That is worth a try.. But if the system Webkit or DNS resolver is where the problem is at, it won't help. You could put the Safari from 10.5.1 in an archive, do the upgrade, then unarchive the old one in some other folder and see if it runs.
well, using both beta and webkit nightly, i don't have this problem any more. dunno what i did, but something fixed it.
clevin
macrumors G3
no, thats not what it is, if its a feature, why most people don't see it?
and never heard any browser try to render nothing before. everything happen after you click "go/enter", there is nothing in OP' post we can link to a theory like you described.
Yes, I know about the page loading delay 'feature' but this is clearly not what it is. This is actually a 2-3 second delay when loading sites and web sites load much slower throughout when browsing. I am going to try to make a screen capture video to show .
Here is a video capture I did of loading pages in both Safari 3.1 beta and 2nd is Camino.
http://imationx.com/capture.mov
http://imationx.com/capture.mov
Still trying to figure this perplexing Safari issue out...
UPDATE:
I got a new hard drive today.
-Did a clean install of OS 10.5. Checked Safari and it was very fast like it used to be.
- Installed the 10.5.2 update via Software update.
-Ran Maint. scripts..repaired permissions..etc. and restarted the computer. ( mac pro)
- As soon as I was running 10.5.2 Safari does the SAME thing. Takes 2-3 to resolve domains and becomes very slow (because there no network activity thru Safari.)
* This does not happen at all in Firefox or Camino *
Someone PLEASE help.. I don't want to use 10.5.1. 😕
UPDATE:
I got a new hard drive today.
-Did a clean install of OS 10.5. Checked Safari and it was very fast like it used to be.
- Installed the 10.5.2 update via Software update.
-Ran Maint. scripts..repaired permissions..etc. and restarted the computer. ( mac pro)
- As soon as I was running 10.5.2 Safari does the SAME thing. Takes 2-3 to resolve domains and becomes very slow (because there no network activity thru Safari.)
* This does not happen at all in Firefox or Camino *
Someone PLEASE help.. I don't want to use 10.5.1. 😕
I just can't understand how no one else is having this issue. I have narrowed it down to 10.5.2 update or Safari itself .
There was a bug in 10.5.0, and maybe 10.5.1, where Safari was failing to resolve DNS somewhat randomly, and a reload would get around it. Apple probably fixed the bug in 10.5.2, but somehow it is causing a problem in your particular environment.
Logically, it could be your own router if you have one, or it is your DNS servers. You could try using some other DNS server. Opendns.com offers theirs: 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220.
If you narrow it down, you can probably file a report with Apple.
Oddly enough I plugged my Mac Pro straight into the wall. ( bypassing router/firewall) and the delay went away...strange. It doesn't effect Camino or Firefox. It looks like Apple change something that somehow effects the way it works with DNS on my router. I'm running the m0n0wall.
Anybody know where I can find out what settings they changed with Safari exactly?
Did you have the problem with 10.5.1 w/Security Update? The update may also introduce the problem, since it also had a Safari fix.
Only problem I had was when I updated to 10.5.2. It has to be the "fix" Apple did with the issue resolving domain in Safari.. Not sure how I'm supposed to fix it.
geek-inthe-pink
macrumors member
Re: Safari Delay
Imationix: I don't know what this will do for you, but in some earlier Safari releases (and rumors say the recent one w/ 10.5.2) have included a WebKit timed delay. In theory, it will wait 2 - 3 seconds before showing most if any page content. Some others report just a background image for the delay, like the gradiented one on MSN. Make SURE Safari is not running - This might do the trick:
Put this in Terminal:
defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitInitialTimedLayoutDelay 0.25
If you aren't on an admin, or you get an error, try this:
defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitInitialTimedLayoutDelay -float 0.25
That might fix it. If it does, BTW, then terminal it again and replace the 0.25 with 0.00001, and watch Safari go like a double espresso!😛
IMFO, That must bite to be used to peppy internet browsing and have to change browsers or OS version🙁... I'm still on Tiger, and everythings speedin' along - for at least what 512 RAM can give, lol.
Imationix: I don't know what this will do for you, but in some earlier Safari releases (and rumors say the recent one w/ 10.5.2) have included a WebKit timed delay. In theory, it will wait 2 - 3 seconds before showing most if any page content. Some others report just a background image for the delay, like the gradiented one on MSN. Make SURE Safari is not running - This might do the trick:
Put this in Terminal:
defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitInitialTimedLayoutDelay 0.25
If you aren't on an admin, or you get an error, try this:
defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitInitialTimedLayoutDelay -float 0.25
That might fix it. If it does, BTW, then terminal it again and replace the 0.25 with 0.00001, and watch Safari go like a double espresso!😛
IMFO, That must bite to be used to peppy internet browsing and have to change browsers or OS version🙁... I'm still on Tiger, and everythings speedin' along - for at least what 512 RAM can give, lol.
Thanks for the info but I have tried that and that isn't the issue. When I bypass my router/firewall (m0n0wall) the delay goes completely away. From the change log in 10.5.2 it says changes were made in Safari that effected the way DNS was handled. I think this is somehow effecting me in a bad way.
Would anyone know how to figure out what setting in Safari or my router is cuasing this? I have looked at the obvious. i also submitted an Apple bug report on this issue.
Thanks