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10.5.7 issue

elgrecomac

elgrecomac

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Background: 17" MBP, 4gb ram, 2008 edition. Upgraded to 10.5.7 upon release.

Problem: when browsing in either Snafuari or Firefox, I see the little 'wheel' spinning next to the pointer...even when I am just reading a page. This NEVER occurred with regularity it is happening now. Anyone else having issues like this?

Also, the system 'seems' sluggish. Again, is it just me? 😱
 
Hmmm, not normal at all. Next time that is happening open up Activity Monitor to see what's going on with your computer and post the results back.
 
Ok, I was just planning on upgrading to 10.5.7 but these posts tell me to stick to 10.5.5 and 10.5.6 🙂

Don't know whats wrong with Apple 😕
 
Same here

cv01 said:
Do you have Transmission running? I see the exact same thing with Transmission running. It even crashed the whole system a couple of time. All after installing 10.5.7...
Overall networking performance and stability seems to be worse compared to 10.5.6.

Interesting topic here:
http://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4564
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EXACT same symptoms for me. When attempting a graceful shutdown to remediate the issue, I can't even shut down without holding down the power button. This sucks! MUCH less stable than my experiences prior to the update.
 
Sounds like a lot of us have similar problems. I cannot shut down or restart my iMac since the install. I have done a dozen things to try to fix it but so far no help. I can't access any of the extras on the header bar without getting the beachball. Can't open bluetooth even in preferences so my cordless keyboard won't work at all. In order to restart or shut down I have to hold in the power button. I have installed it via update and combo download and still no help. Reinstalled in safe mode and still no help. repaired permissions and rand various Onyx maintenance and so far still no help. I really need some solutions here!
 
I'm on 10.5.7 and am not having these issues... But... I am having problems with the system name conflicting with itself. When I resume from sleep mode on my Macbook Pro, it tells me the computer name is already in use and increments the name by one. I just rebooted, so I will see if that fixes it for now. Repairing permissions does sound like a good idea.
For those with browser issues, do you have plugins (like with Firefox)? Maybe you could disable them and retry?
 
Mr.Gadget said:
I'm on 10.5.7 and am not having these issues... But... I am having problems with the system name conflicting with itself. When I resume from sleep mode on my Macbook Pro, it tells me the computer name is already in use and increments the name by one. I just rebooted, so I will see if that fixes it for now. Repairing permissions does sound like a good idea.
For those with browser issues, do you have plugins (like with Firefox)? Maybe you could disable them and retry?
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I think the issue has something to do with sleeping and Safari. I didn't have any of these issues until the upgrade, now i can't do a graceful shutdown. i tried to get a screenshot from activity monitor to share when the condition occurs, but the system is so screwed at that point that 'Activity Monitor' is not responding. even after a force quit and restart of activity monitor, it does not respond. Did 10.5.7 include a windows kernel? I'm a Windows-convert, as of last August. This is the most discouraging symptom i can imagine. This is VERY Windows-esque. I can't believe how unstable my system is now. Can't wait to see how Microsoft runs with this opportunity.
 
I haven't yet installed 10.5.7 - should I do it or should I wait? Just been so busy that I can't install it just yet.

Hopefully if I do install it I don't get any of the same symptoms that you guys are experiencing.
 
JDee said:
I haven't yet installed 10.5.7 - should I do it or should I wait? Just been so busy that I can't install it just yet.

Hopefully if I do install it I don't get any of the same symptoms that you guys are experiencing.
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I installed the update (via software update) without any problems. There have been discussions elsewhere about repairing permissions prior to installing 10.5.7 (which I happened to have done about an hour before knowing that an update was available) - don't know Mac's well enough to know if that was the difference (3 month Mac newbie). Fortunately I have a 10.5.6 clone of my system if there had been a problem with the update...
 
Update!

So, after installing 10.5.7 I found my system ran real slow. Beech Balling in apps that I had never even thought could cause a Beech Ball to show.

In any case, I got fed up with it I am currently doing a fresh install. I have got most of my stuff back to normal and have dull a full update to 10.5.7 after the fresh install. Everything seems to be smooth again, but we will see once I install the app that uses the most resources. That app happens to be VMWare. I use it mostly for work, but I had not had any slow downs or any issues at all until 10.5.7.

Also of note, the only 2 major modifications I had done to the OS before the 10.5.7 update was candybar, changed some icons, and I had installed that hacked version of the usb trackpad drivers that gave me 4 finger swipe. 10.5.7 removed that and I lost 4 finger swipe, but I am thinking somehow that could have caused a problem of some sort.

Also, my original 10.5.7 update was done with the combo update, where as I just let the software updater handle it this time.

But, so far so good with fresh install.

-Zeek
 
zeeklancer said:
So, after installing 10.5.7 I found my system ran real slow. Beech Balling in apps that I had never even thought could cause a Beech Ball to show.

In any case, I got fed up with it I am currently doing a fresh install. I have got most of my stuff back to normal and have dull a full update to 10.5.7 after the fresh install. Everything seems to be smooth again, but we will see once I install the app that uses the most resources. That app happens to be VMWare. I use it mostly for work, but I had not had any slow downs or any issues at all until 10.5.7.

Also of note, the only 2 major modifications I had done to the OS before the 10.5.7 update was candybar, changed some icons, and I had installed that hacked version of the usb trackpad drivers that gave me 4 finger swipe. 10.5.7 removed that and I lost 4 finger swipe, but I am thinking somehow that could have caused a problem of some sort.

Also, my original 10.5.7 update was done with the combo update, where as I just let the software updater handle it this time.

But, so far so good with fresh install.

-Zeek
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Can you pls elaborate on the 'fresh install'? did you revert back (or restore) to 10.5.6 and then install 10.5.7 on top of it again, or... did you just install 10.5.7 on top of your prior buggy 10.5.7 installation?
 
Update - 10.5.7 performance issue

1. contacted Time Warner to verify that I was not having an internet problem. Connected a Sony Vaio running Win 7 directly to the cable modem ---no speed issues. connected Mac with 10.5.7 --- speed issues.

2. contact Apple tech support - after getting thru the 1st tier, the specialist had me run tests with an apple supplied utility called CAPTUREDATA. did a bunch of web browsing with noticeable slow down and sent data file to Apple tech. He did a once over of the file and noticed an old file from App4Mac that I no longer used was effecting browsing every 10 seconds so we removed the file, rebooted the mac and re-did the test with CAPTUREDATA.

3. Got a slowdown again so the newest capture info is being sent to the lab for a look over.....

4. BTW...Apple Tech support has been great throughout this process. Cudos to Apple Tech staff.

I will keep you posted. 😕
 
JoeBIII said:
Can you pls elaborate on the 'fresh install'? did you revert back (or restore) to 10.5.6 and then install 10.5.7 on top of it again, or... did you just install 10.5.7 on top of your prior buggy 10.5.7 installation?
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Yep, I can 🙂

I nuked everything and started fresh. Copied over things like my iTunes and iPhoto back to the new install. And my documents I use. Re-installed applications that I could from drag and drop from the old application folder.


update!
I did have an odd sleep wake up issue today that forced hard reboot. After leaving work I closed my laptop like I do. When I got home the mac did not detect that the external monitor changed over. So all I had access to was my laptop screen, which was being used as a secondary screen. Audium was showing, but I could not click anything, but the mouse did move around.

-Zeek
 
yep

I am spinning a lot lately on my MacBook Air Rev A. I thought it was just me. I did the regular update and the combo. I always have to hold down the power button to restart. Wonder what we can do cause 10.5.6 was very stable for me? Strange thing is that my iMac is running perfectly with the update!
 
If you are experiencing a slow down......CALL APPLE TECH SUPPORT!

They need to know about this. Tell them it is similar to case # 66584792.

😱
 
I have a late 2004 ibook with 1.33 GHz and 1.25 GB RAM. I'm planning to buy a new computer this summer, although this one is still functional, just a little slow.

When I was installing 10.5.7, I kinda fell asleep next to my computer, and was woken up by my computer restarting which I was assumed was normal, but then it got stuck at the grey screen with the spinning wheel.
Then I get a page of messages scrolling up (error somethings, I didn't read them closely I was freaking out...lol), then it goes to the giant power button screen and tells me I need to restart. It did this 3 times, and I was freaking out, but then it finally restarted correctly and it has been fine since then.

This happen to anyone else?
 
zeeklancer said:
Yep, I can 🙂

update!
I did have an odd sleep wake up issue today that forced hard reboot. After leaving work I closed my laptop like I do. When I got home the mac did not detect that the external monitor changed over. So all I had access to was my laptop screen, which was being used as a secondary screen. Audium was showing, but I could not click anything, but the mouse did move around.

-Zeek
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I'm suspicious of the sleep functionality or recovery from sleep that is part of the issue. I don't appear to have issues until I return from a sleep state. at that point, it's so bad that i can't even run the activity monitor to capture metrics. the last time i attempted to run the activity monitor, i got a messagebox ... "Unable to run application ("null")". it is so screwed up at that point that it doesn't even know which app i'm trying to run. sounds like a major issue with an internal pointer - at a minimum.
 
elgrecomac said:
Background: 17" MBP, 4gb ram, 2008 edition. Upgraded to 10.5.7 upon release.

Problem: when browsing in either Snafuari or Firefox, I see the little 'wheel' spinning next to the pointer...even when I am just reading a page. This NEVER occurred with regularity it is happening now. Anyone else having issues like this?

Also, the system 'seems' sluggish. Again, is it just me? 😱
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I am certainly noticing a sluggishness to mouse inputs in Safari on my MBP (i.e. clicking on stuff such as input boxes often does nothing, and I have to click again).

Add this to my Mac Pro now losing some screen resolutions over a DVI-to-HDMI cable, and I'm not happy with this update.
 
Several 10.5.7 installations later...

...still experiencing the spinning beach balls of death. they appear after waking from sleep, and keep me from performing a clean shutdown or restart of my system. have deleted the various plist files i saw in other posts, to no avail. finally spoke to an apple product specialist tonight. he had me delete a couple of cache directories. since my symptoms are not immediately reproducible i'm going to hold out for a couple of days to see if things have improved. will provide updates if there's anything exciting discovered. hoping to share good news shortly.
 
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