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When do you think 10 Gbps home internet will become more available/standard ?
 
2040-2060 is most likely. Right now 10 Gbps costs thousands per month and even millions for installation. Then even getting home networking equipment, its not your ISP's $10 switch, its tens of thousands and way beyond wifi speeds. Honestly when we are on 10 Gbps, data because something more like a utility.
 
2040-2060 is most likely. Right now 10 Gbps costs thousands per month and even millions for installation. Then even getting home networking equipment, its not your ISP's $10 switch, its tens of thousands and way beyond wifi speeds. Honestly when we are on 10 Gbps, data because something more like a utility.

We will all be dead by then.
 
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I'm not sure on a time frame, but it's going to be a long time. I just read somewhere a few weeks ago that Cable Companies are running up against the limits of their current wiring with the new higher speed offerings (I think it was 1 Gig). I know that I upgraded from 100 MB to 400 MB & the upgrade came with a warning that 400 is the upper end and isn't guaranteed, due to equipment, lines, etc. Sure enough I was only hitting 250 Mb.

Whereas most of the changes up till now were mostly equipment based, in order to go faster cable companies will have to start re-running their lines for this to become the norm.

Plus, I don't feel like there's a huge push for it. I think that current internet is good enough for most people's needs right now. 100 Mb is perfectly fine for me to work from home right now and to stream video, which are probably the two highest bandwidth things that I (or most people) do. Once higher def videos become the norm, possibly that will change, but for now, I don't see a huge push for higher speeds.
 
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I have 400Mbit here - sometimes seeing close to 50MB/sec sustained from Apple. It’s nice, but as mentioned above, almost always overkill. Most sites won’t come close to delivering data at that rate. We have a 900Mbit option from our provider, and I don’t see the need to spend the money.

I’m sure we’ll want more bandwidth in the future (remember the days when a T1 seemed amazing?) - but I think making good use of 10Gbit is a long way off, at least for a typical consumer like me.
 
I have 400Mbit here - sometimes seeing close to 50MB/sec sustained from Apple. It’s nice, but as mentioned above, almost always overkill. Most sites won’t come close to delivering data at that rate. We have a 900Mbit option from our provider, and I don’t see the need to spend the money.

I’m sure we’ll want more bandwidth in the future (remember the days when a T1 seemed amazing?) - but I think making good use of 10Gbit is a long way off, at least for a typical consumer like me.

Untrue. I download at 1 Gbps a sec all the time. (Well really close)

Now streaming is a different story it is not necessary.
 
We will all be dead by then.
It is only 20-40 years from now, you might be retiring, hopefully not dead. 20 years is a respectable time to make 10 Gbps respectable, it requires every cable upgraded to fibre in whatever country you live in. Personally I am more interested in when home users can get to and pass 1Gbps upload, that opens up all kinds of new things like a robust P2P internet and broadcast quality 8k video calls.
 
Untrue. I download at 1 Gbps a sec all the time. (Well really close)

You must be connecting to better sites than I do, because I can count on one hand the places that will give me all of my 400Mbits. And even then, it’s only a few times per month where I download enough data for it to matter - typically a game or app.

I’ll start to care more when I need higher data rates from the streaming content, and have kids sucking it all up. :)
 
In my home state of Oregon, I had 1 Gig installed for a one-time fee of $199.00 and a monthly fee increase of $40.00. It worked reasonably well.
 
You must be connecting to better sites than I do, because I can count on one hand the places that will give me all of my 400Mbits. And even then, it’s only a few times per month where I download enough data for it to matter - typically a game or app.

I’ll start to care more when I need higher data rates from the streaming content, and have kids sucking it all up. :)

Not really.

Steam, EA Origin, Rockstar launcher
 
Untrue. I download at 1 Gbps a sec all the time. (Well really close)

Now streaming is a different story it is not necessary.
You highlighted "almost always overkill" as a way to dispute that statement and call it untrue. The vast majority don't need that kind of speed, so it's correct. There's only so much you can download and yet you're wanting 10x that.

Do you have difficulty staying off the internet? You seem quite concerned about internet speeds while on planes and on holiday when you should be enjoying yourself.
 
I have 400Mbit here - sometimes seeing close to 50MB/sec sustained from Apple. It’s nice, but as mentioned above, almost always overkill. Most sites won’t come close to delivering data at that rate. We have a 900Mbit option from our provider, and I don’t see the need to spend the money.

I’m sure we’ll want more bandwidth in the future (remember the days when a T1 seemed amazing?) - but I think making good use of 10Gbit is a long way off, at least for a typical consumer like me.

BTW do you see 50MB/sec sustained from iPhone/iPad or iOS store ever ?
 
I think it'll depend on where you are. Here in NZ, 4 Gb/s is readily available, although it costs around twice as much as 1 Gb/s. It sounds like commercial 10 Gb/s plans probably aren't too far away:

Hyperfibre is delivered over XGS-PON technology. It is a next generation technology that support speeds of up to 10 gigabit per second (Gbps) downstream and upstream, deployed over our existing nationwide fibre infrastructure. XGPSON technology enables you to reach an internet speed of up to 10Gbps for download and upload regardless of the distance.

Although the fact that they've called it 'XGS-PON' in one place and 'XGPSON' in another makes it seem a little unprofessional!
 
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I think it'll depend on where you are. Here in NZ, 4 Gb/s is readily available, although it costs around twice as much as 1 Gb/s. It sounds like commercial 10 Gb/s plans probably aren't too far away:



Although the fact that they've called it 'XGS-PON' in one place and 'XGPSON' in another makes it seem a little unprofessional!

Yep and some places close have 10 Gbps. Well not that close in distance.
 
BTW do you see 50MB/sec sustained from iPhone/iPad or iOS store ever ?

Not sure with iOS - my downloads tend to be small and there’s no visible data rate.

The 50MB/sec is generally from Apple (iCloud Drive) or Amazon (AWS S3). The only other place I have downloads large enough to really notice the data rate is Steam, and that doesn’t get much higher than 25MB/sec for me. It’s cable so I know not to expect consistency, but it’s generally been pretty good from Apple especially.
 
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internet providors have gotten city laws to limit competition.

I am lucky enough to have fiber to the house. Not all neighborhoods here are wired for it.
I was talking to an installer who siad the fiber striand that goes to my house is continous. It goes all the way drectily to a centeral office building. There is no routing or electrinics. I was flabbergasted so the installer tech showed me the neighborhood control box. There was NO electrinics anywhere
 
We presently have 1GB fiber to the house (Denmark, Scandinavia). I believe the next step here will be 2.5GB in the not too distant future, the fiber line optic is not an issue, only the internet provider's own internal technical setup.

Our Ubiquiti home equipment is already tuned up for the task and chews 1GB easily, but it can also do 2.5GB without any problems if/when.....

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realy need to mention this; 10Gb speed = 1GB and on a LAN side of a network this is not fast.

Ubiquiti home equipment
i really like their products. the only bad is their software mamagment app seems a step back. Preference is to have a bouldt in web page to manage each device. I guess i could get over it.
 
realy need to mention this; 10Gb speed = 1GB and on a LAN side of a network this is not fast.

I can see you really need to mention it - you've written it twice now!

Please tell us what consumer LAN products are faster than 10Gbps? Nothing by ubiquiti is - not sure why you'd like them.
 
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realy need to mention this; 10Gb speed = 1GB and on a LAN side of a network this is not fast.

Ubiquiti home equipment
i really like their products. the only bad is their software mamagment app seems a step back. Preference is to have a bouldt in web page to manage each device. I guess i could get over it.
Fyg the above Ubiquiti router is already on a SFP+ 10GB capable connection to the fiber media converter and is just ready for the internet provider to increase the speed :cool:
 
realy need to mention this; 10Gb speed = 1GB and on a LAN side of a network this is not fast.
Most consumer-level network cards (those installed in desktops and laptops you're buying off the shelf) still don't support that speed. Neither do most consumer-level routers. Wired networks in homes generally top out at 1 Gbps.
 
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