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Yea, pulled the trigger on one myself. Im sure those 128gb of storage will come in handy for my 10 apps 😬! Best part, already found my 2021 Apple tv its forever home.
lol, good on ya. I'd be doing the same thing as I'd want that wired ethernet connection...
 
Can somebody tell me the point of the Apple TV? Genuine question.

We have a smart TV and it's just simpler to use its own apps for things like Netflix or Amazon Prime, rather than mess around switching HDMI input and booting-up the Apple TV (which we do have, albeit an older one).

If I want to watch Apple TV shows then I do so on my phone, or MacBook.

Just about the only reason I've ever seen anybody use an Apple TV is for beaming photos onto the big TV screen. But that's not exactly an everyday thing.

Sure. Hooking up your TV to the internet is one of the most insecure things you can do.

At one time you also got higher quality steams. (Not sure if that’s still the case. Apple was actually hosting content for some third party steaming services to deliver higher bit rate streams for Apple TV users. Again, not sure if this is still the case.)

Also there is a greater number of useful apps on the Apple TV. (Or was, I’ve been using one for so long, I’ve been happy with it, and I don’t fix what isn’t broken.)
 
Apple TV kind of confuses me. Is it that much better than just using the Apple TV app on an OLED LG tv?
 
I mean glad it got refreshed, but thats all this was. Even with having to pay more for ethernet, it's still cheaper than it was. This is a good thing. Don't know what anyone else expected. I also don't see point of storage on the Apple other than games maybe....who games on these things anyway?
My wife and I play Apple Arcade games on ours from time to time. It is ok with the remote, best with a controller.

I assume that is what the storage is for, in addition to screensavers, though we have yet to take up even half of our 64 GB.
 
Agree with that Mac Mini comment. I have an Apple TV 4k from the previous generation. It's generally fine but sometimes, I'll load YouTubeTV and it's all blocky.... then it has issues with Plex from a Synology device because it can't natively play H265 that was used at 1080p.... or it had an issue with the audio... and yes that's likely a Plex issue but I don't have this issue with nVidia Shield. I just don't see any compelling reason to upgrade here unless it can do Plex better... whether that's an issue on Plex or the capabilities of ATV. However, I could just get an old Mac Mini and be perfectly fine.
 
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But will it load large media libraries, or does Apple continue to punish their best media customers who use Apple hardware?
 
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Can somebody tell me the point of the Apple TV? Genuine question.

We have a smart TV and it's just simpler to use its own apps for things like Netflix or Amazon Prime, rather than mess around switching HDMI input and booting-up the Apple TV (which we do have, albeit an older one).

If I want to watch Apple TV shows then I do so on my phone, or MacBook.

Just about the only reason I've ever seen anybody use an Apple TV is for beaming photos onto the big TV screen. But that's not exactly an everyday thing.
For an Environmentally Conscience company that Apple is trying to market itself as, AppleTV is a wasteful product. Make it software based and license it to other tv manufacturers. Given that most tv’s come with GoogleTV/AndroidTV, Roku or WebOS built-in who is buying this wasteful device. Once iPhone goes USB-C people have the option of a HDMI connection.
 
Can somebody tell me the point of the Apple TV? Genuine question.

We have a smart TV and it's just simpler to use its own apps for things like Netflix or Amazon Prime, rather than mess around switching HDMI input and booting-up the Apple TV (which we do have, albeit an older one).

If I want to watch Apple TV shows then I do so on my phone, or MacBook.

Just about the only reason I've ever seen anybody use an Apple TV is for beaming photos onto the big TV screen. But that's not exactly an everyday thing.

Can somebody tell me the point of a new iPhone? A new Mac? A new iPad? All of those can be genuine questions too. My old iPhone does everything a new one can do. My older tablet does everything a newer one can do. My older Mac can do everything a newer one can do... and can cover texting and phone calls too with some VOIP app. A cheap PC can run all of the basic computing task software just fine and I can make calls and do texting on it too. What's the point in buying any of the new stuff?

To overcome the smart TV alternative, all you need is ONE+ app that is available on AppleTV that is not available on the TV. If you want that app, you want something on which to run it. Could there be 2 apps you want to enjoy NOT on your smart TV? 4? More? There's a whole lot of apps in the AppleTV App Store that are not available on my smart TV.

For example, my most used app on my AppleTVs around the house is called Channels DVR. I use it every day. It is not available on my very new, smart TV. It alone makes my AppleTVs get heavily used every day.

My next most used app on AppleTV is Computers, which is exclusive to AppleTV. It brings all of my stored media (music, home movies, movie collection, photos, etc) to the biggest screens and best speakers in the house.

Etc. Channels DVR and Computers (app) are not available on the Smart TV... as are MANY apps I enjoy on AppleTV.

If I want to watch AppleTV (subscription service) shows, I too can watch them on relatively tiny iDevice or Mac screens. But what if others here at home want to watch and my iDevice is out with me somewhere? How can I make anything I can readily watch/play/hear on my iDevice also be readily available to others back at home too? The "iPod for your television" fills that role very nicely... and is much less expensive than equipping little kiddies with much more expensive iDevices.

If one lives alone, are happy with only the limited quantity of apps that come with a TV or another streaming box and/or is fine with airplaying from their iDevice, they very well may not need one. Not everyone needs everything that Apple makes. But it doesn't take very much to find a reason to own an AppleTV for anyone not living alone. It's a pretty capable device for (now) much less than $200.
 
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The new Apple TV should have stared with a price point of $99 with 64GB of storage. What's up with the $129 price point! Seems out of place.
I know... If you're already willing to pay $129, what's another $20 to get one with the ethernet port, more storage and Thread support? At $99 it'd be an option that more people would consider if they were price sensitive to $149.
 
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Agree with that Mac Mini comment. I have an Apple TV 4k from the previous generation. It's generally fine but sometimes, I'll load YouTubeTV and it's all blocky.... then it has issues with Plex from a Synology device because it can't natively play H265 that was used at 1080p.... or it had an issue with the audio... and yes that's likely a Plex issue but I don't have this issue with nVidia Shield. I just don't see any compelling reason to upgrade here unless it can do Plex better... whether that's an issue on Plex or the capabilities of ATV. However, I could just get an old Mac Mini and be perfectly fine.
I have a ShieldTV, lightening A/V dongle, NAS and a Mac. Someone convince me that I need an AppleTV. Does it have a web browser, how about the ability to load any apps outside the AppStore indefinitely, etc.
 
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