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Wait, just last week the same people told us that the iPhone 18 Pro would be underwhelming. Which is it?

 
Meh no thanks still waiting the real upgrade if they give us more core CPU and GPU i probably buy it
 
As an EU with physical sim iPhone 17 pro, I'm kinda regretting buying mine this year lol, since I expected more battery.

The 18 pro being thicker and also ditching the physical sim means the battery will be far better...

On the other hand, the big changes will probably come with the anniversary phone
 
I don't get the obsession with the variable aperture?! 🤔
Even with wide open aperture (how it is now!) the micro sensors with the micro lenses already have everything sharp from here to South Africa. The bokeh (face sharp and background blurred) in this cameras is artificially calculated after the photo was taken (Portrait mode). So with a variable aperture one can only extend(!!) the sharp area, but what for?!
 
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At this moment in time, i have no desire for the 18/18 pro series. For those planning to get the 18 series, I hope it serves you well. I have been happy with the new modem in the iPhone Air. That bodes well for 18 series users.
I’m sure the 18 will be a solid upgrade for my spouse who will be ready to get a new phone. I’m still happy with my iPhone 15PM. With my new iPP M5 I can defer the update to the IPhone XX.
 
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I’m sure the 18 will be a solid upgrade for my spouse who will be ready to get a new phone. I’m still happy with my iPhone 15PM. With my new iPP M5 I can defer the update to the IPhone XX.
I feel the same way with my M5 purchase and iPadOS 26. Unless the fold shockingly surprises me, I plan on sticking with the iPhone Air.
 
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Just waiting for the 17e, because it will me more than enough.
I bought a 16e as a secondary iPhone to my iPhone 16 Pro Max. It’s an excellent phone that has exceeded my expectations while taking into consideration its modest feature set. Although it seems $100 overpriced, that’s typical for Apple.
I see 10 reasons to just stick with the phone you have.
I concur!

After decades of enjoying Apples best hardware, things have changed with the Cupertino company. The shine has worn off, they’re immersed in politics, premium prices abound and the Siri / Apple Intelligence debacle has revealed what appears to be a level of uncertainty for all to see.
11. “It will be underwhelming” - Gurman
Yes indeed.
 


Apple is reportedly working to simplify the Camera Control button's design on iPhone 18 models in order to reduce costs. The current Camera Control button on iPhone 17 models uses both capacitive and pressure sensors beneath a sapphire crystal surface. The capacitive layer detects touch gestures, while the force sensor recognizes different pressure levels for taps, presses, and swipes.

However, according to the Weibo-based account Instant Digital, Apple will remove the capacitive sensing layer and retain only pressure sensing recognition in the second iteration to achieve all Camera Control functions on the iPhone 18. The simplified version is not about reducing functionality in the button, but about saving money.
They should reduce the functions of this button. Apple are adding needless redundancy and complicating a button unnecessarily. Camera Control should be rebranded into a name like "QuickSnap" or similar and marketed as a speedy way to take photos and videos, with a half press giving users a quick peek through the camera from within any app—they can let go to exit or press down to snap that initial photo and transition seamlessly into the Camera app. I wouldn't dream about trying to explain the current button to many older people, and that fact is a design problem.
 
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Was hoping the 18 Pro Max retained the same form factor as my 17 Pro Max. If this is not the case (Pun intended) basically every single case I have purchased for my 17 Pro Max will be worth 💩
 
They should reduce the functions of this button. Apple are adding needless redundancy and complicating a button unnecessarily.
As one who embraces change and most new features, I find the Camera Control button on my iPhone 16 Pro Max an unnecessary, poorly executed feature.

Understanding the long held internal belief that Apple knows better than their customers, Camera Control is here to stay.

Watching them waste resources trying to improve its functionality when they have deeper holes to dig their way out of, is somewhat entertaining.
 
As one who embraces change and most new features, I find the Camera Control button on my iPhone 16 Pro Max an unnecessary, poorly executed feature.

Understanding the long held internal belief that Apple knows better than their customers, Camera Control is here to stay.

Watching them waste resources trying to improve its functionality when they have deeper holes to dig their way out of, is somewhat entertaining.
No button is guaranteed to be here to say. I keep chipping away at them giving them feedback about how bad the button is 😅

Mocking them made them fix the keyboards.
 
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The all new physical design will come next year, September 2027, correct?

Hardware specs mean nothing to mean anymore, to me its all about the physical design which is why I own the Air right now (I am beyond bored with the same design that they have used from iphone 12 to iphone 17).
 
No button is guaranteed to be here to say. I keep chipping away at them giving them feedback about how bad the button is 😅

Mocking them made them fix the keyboards.
Good point!

I did submit a request for removal directly to Apple but my years of observing how they operate caused my skepticism to prevail.

Thanks for the reminder about the keyboards, which also reminded me that after years they began a campaign and replaced the battery on my 15” Mid 2015 MacBook Pro Retina.

Due to work and my heavy reliance on the iPhone Pro Max model, should they remove the button I’m first in line to buy one.
 
I went from13PM or 17PM, so yea, I will wait for quite some time …

And yet yesterday Gurman the almighty was quotes that the 18Pro would be “underwhelming”, so here we are ….

And in a few months, the rumor title will say “10 reasons you should wait for the 19…”

And so it continues …
 
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Good point!

I did submit a request for removal directly to Apple but my years of observing how they operate caused my skepticism to prevail.

Thanks for the reminder about the keyboards, which also reminded me that after years they began a campaign and replaced the battery on my 15” Mid 2015 MacBook Pro Retina.

Due to work and my heavy reliance on the iPhone Pro Max model, should they remove the button I’m first in line to buy one.
The action button is here to stay although I think it will morph as all things morph. The camera button is probably here to stay although apple will be tuning it for a while.
 
The action button is here to stay although I think it will morph as all things morph. The camera button is probably here to stay although apple will be tuning it for a while.
Although I have tried to accept and adapt via trying different settings it continues to annoy.

Taking an optimistic approach, if we’re stuck with it perhaps Apple will succeed in salvaging this dreadful “feature”.
 
Good point!

I did submit a request for removal directly to Apple but my years of observing how they operate caused my skepticism to prevail.

Thanks for the reminder about the keyboards, which also reminded me that after years they began a campaign and replaced the battery on my 15” Mid 2015 MacBook Pro Retina.

Due to work and my heavy reliance on the iPhone Pro Max model, should they remove the button I’m first in line to buy one.
I wouldn’t pitch them the note that it’s preventing you buying one, more than you find the button annoying and confusing and leave it at that.
 
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