You were the one conflating the two ideas.And again you fail to understand they work hand-in-hand together. Without market saturation there is no issue. People already have what they need.
You were the one conflating the two ideas.And again you fail to understand they work hand-in-hand together. Without market saturation there is no issue. People already have what they need.
You were the one conflating the two ideas.
I'll remind you what you wrote:Not really. Market saturation is real. "Upgrade saturation" is your creation.
The decline is due to... i.e. market saturation, with little need to upgrade year to year, as has been common in the past.
I'll remind you what you wrote:
i.e. that is market saturation, with little need to upgrade
you put the two together
Well I was responding to your earlier comment where you wrote:No, I was showing what you called "upgrade saturation," a term you introduced, is really what the industry calls market saturation. Which was the point I originally made when you tried to suggest removing the iPhone headphone jack was responsible for a decline in iPhone sales. Ignoring the fact that the iPhone 7 without the headphone jack was recently introduced and the decline in iPhone sales has been ongoing.
And it could just as easily correlate to market saturation - something affecting all manufacturers.
I've had my 6+ for two years. I'm not feeling compelled to upgrade right now. It does everything I need, is reliable, lasts a long time on a battery charge, is relatively secure, receives frequent software updates, has a great screen, and the camera is excellent (I'm a photographer). The phone is that good.
Please, tell me why I should spend $$$ for an iPhone 7+.
Well I was responding to your earlier comment where you wrote:
You mentioned market saturation then directly talked about upgrading. Thats what made me think you were conflating the two...
Exactly you talked about declining sales because of saturation and talked about NOT upgrading both relating to declining sales and hence why I thought you conflated the two.You're still missing the point. I talked about NOT upgrading.
I may be way off, but I can't help but feel they've been working on the 2017 iPhone for longer than usual.It's not though - it was announced 10 years ago today, release date was months later.
No, but as everyone else points out sales were declining prior to the removal of the headphone jack.
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Is there a certified product to allow me to charge and use 3.5mm jack? (And not the solution where I have to use that manufacturers case)
I updated from a 6 Plus to 6s Plus for 3D Touch and that's it. I buy my iPhones on Swappa used but excellent condition. I'll buy the model prior to the newest because the newest models always have bugs and availability constraints.And that too. The only significant update to the camera was on the 7+ but it's way too big for me to be able to use as my daily driver. So I didn't really have much choice there. I hope Apple stops doing that.
I'm pretty sure Belkin make one.
He should lay off the value judgements and let the products speak for themselves. In fact every CEO should. I mean, what else are they going to say? "Here's the latest MacGuffin...it's not really any better than last year's but we'd really like you to buy it! Oh, and next year's MacGuffin S will be the best!"As far as TC is concerned, best is always coming. It's just that it's kinda hard to believe him, since it never comes. And when he introduces 'the best', he leaves a lot of people disappointed (iPhone 7, new MBP, etc.).![]()
Wish there was a rear skin to make my 6s Plus look like the original iPhone. Not just black tape either. Would be kinda cool
And I always find it funny when someone who is probably not a shareholder calls others a troll. Sad.
Captain Fantastic & Alaskan Bush People. True ludditesIt's true. Every generation thinks the next one is going to hell in a handbasket.
The difference is, this time it's actually true
Ironically, Jobs did not let his own kids use the iPad when it first came out. He also forbade the use of any technology at the dinner table.
He was like a drug dealer who pushed to everyone else, but protected his own children from the very products he sold.
There's a lesson somewhere in there for other parents.
5 years from now, iPhones and its ilk will be history. We'll all have some cool looking shades with AR / VR built-in display and brain pattern controls. Happy 10th iPhone anniversary, there won't be a 20th.
well, if that FaceTime-call fatal car accident lawsuit against Apple gets any traction, all such functions will get disabled at speeds above 20mph. Also, in 10 years, governments will mandate self-driving vehicles and the only place you can drive "manually" will be a race track with $100K membership.OMG, you're probably right. Within the decade, people peering down at smartphones could be replaced with people focusing on images projected in front of them (via glasses or whatever) while they walk.
Question is, will that be safer? Will people notice the taxi cab bearing down on them behind the projection of today's calendar?
And what about drivers wearing AR gear? Oh boy.
Today marks the tenth anniversary of the day Steve Jobs introduced the original iPhone at Macworld in San Francisco. In what has become one of the most iconic moments in Apple's storied history, Jobs teased the device as if it were three separate products: a widescreen iPod with touch controls, a revolutionary mobile phone, and a breakthrough internet communications device.
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Apple began selling the iPhone six months later, and nearly a decade later, the company has now sold well over 1 billion of them to customers around the world. iPhone sales continued to rise on an annual basis until 2016, when the smartphone experienced its first-ever year-over-year sales decline amid a down year for Apple. Nevertheless, the iPhone remains Apple's most successful product ever, accounting for 60% of the company's overall revenue last quarter.
"iPhone is an essential part of our customers' lives, and today more than ever it is redefining the way we communicate, entertain, work and live," said Tim Cook, Apple's CEO. "iPhone set the standard for mobile computing in its first decade and we are just getting started. The best is yet to come."
Apple upended the mobile phone industry that was then dominated by earlier entrants such as Nokia and BlackBerry, two companies that are effectively out of the market today. Jobs poked fun at "smartphones" of the era, quipping they were "not so smart" and "not so easy to use," while criticizing outdated hardware features such as physical keyboards and styli. In turn, he introduced revolutionary new features such as Multi-Touch and scrolling to big rounds of applause.
Since then, Apple has improved the iPhone each year by adding several new features:
o 2008: App Store and 3G network support
o 2009: Video recording and Personal Hotspot
o 2010: Retina display
o 2011: Siri and iCloud
o 2012: Taller 4-inch screen, Lightning connector, and LTE
o 2013: Touch ID
o 2014: Larger 4.7-inch and 5.5-inch screens
o 2015: 3D Touch, Live Photos, and 4K video recording
o 2016: Waterproofing and dual-lens camera on iPhone 7 Plus
"It is amazing that from the very first iPhone through to today's newest iPhone 7 Plus, it has remained the gold standard by which all other smartphones are judged. For many of us, iPhone has become the most essential device in our lives and we love it," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of marketing.
2017 is expected to be a big year for the iPhone, with rumors suggesting at least one new model will feature glass casing with a curved OLED display. The device may sport a nearly bezel-less edge-to-edge design with no physical Home button, but rather Touch ID embedded directly into the display as both patented by Apple and technologically possible. Other rumored features include wireless charging, facial or iris recognition, and a vertical dual-lens camera capable of 3D photography effects.
Article Link: 10 Years Ago Today: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone
RIP Steve. The person that changed the world.
in 10 years, governments will mandate self-driving vehicles
Ironically, Jobs did not let his own kids use the iPad when it first came out. He also forbade the use of any technology at the dinner table.
He was like a drug dealer who pushed to everyone else, but protected his own children from the very products he sold.
There's a lesson somewhere in there for other parents.