And iOS isn't? Why doesn't the 4 or the '3 year old 3GS' have Siri for a start? Anyone that thinks that the hardware can't cope, is frankly stupid.
Also, iOS is not that smooth. Mine hangs and gets a bit sluggish on occasion.
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And iOS isn't? Why doesn't the 4 or the '3 year old 3GS' have Siri for a start? Anyone that thinks that the hardware can't cope, is frankly stupid.
Also, iOS is not that smooth. Mine hangs and gets a bit sluggish on occasion.
VandyChem2009
macrumors 6502a
Forgive me if I'm wrong but what exactly is wrong with being a fan of either iOS or Android? I mean it is all about preference, there will be people who love iOS and hate Android, people who love Android and hate iOS, and people who love Android and iOS, so what's the point of all this bashing and hating on what each individual person likes? Are we not allowed to have our own preferences anymore?
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
With Siri, there is hardware that can't cope. It's serverside; Apple's servers! 😛
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Nothing wrong with it at all. It's like being fans of opposing sports teams. Grown men's maturity levels are diminished to that of a ten year old when talking sports. Similar psychology here, methinks.
VulchR
macrumors 68040
Warning, I am going to write a whole lot of nothing....
It's simple: Such posts are likely to occur in iOS vs others threads in an iPhone forum. Thus, if the title of a given thread in this forum includes 'Android', 'Samsung', 'Nexus' etc. then posts about the appropriateness of the thread are likely to appear within the thread. In that case, you should what people who share my view that the posts are in the wrong forum are told to do: Don't read the thread.. Also, as I recall, one can block posts from given people by putting them on your ignore list.
Of course, if these types of threads were in their own sub-forum, there would be no issues about whether the threads belonged.
It's simple: Such posts are likely to occur in iOS vs others threads in an iPhone forum. Thus, if the title of a given thread in this forum includes 'Android', 'Samsung', 'Nexus' etc. then posts about the appropriateness of the thread are likely to appear within the thread. In that case, you should what people who share my view that the posts are in the wrong forum are told to do: Don't read the thread.. Also, as I recall, one can block posts from given people by putting them on your ignore list.
Of course, if these types of threads were in their own sub-forum, there would be no issues about whether the threads belonged.
Sensamic
macrumors 68040
Ooooohhhhh the good old fragmentation issue...
Again: iPhone 4 only 1 year old and doesnt get Siri. 2 years old and it doesnt get turn by turn navigation or 3D maps or Flyover or 3G FaceTime.
iPad 2 one year old and no Siri.
No such thing as fragmentation on iOS, right?
For one, the very concept of butter confirms what people have been saying about android since day one: It's laggy and/or unresponsive.
The GS3 is a prime example. Transitions are slower than the 4S, returning to home is slower than the 4S, panning between screens is slower than the 4S.
All this stems from android starting as a Blackberry clone, and not being optimized for a touchscreen device. Now Google is going back and trying to shoehorn into an iOS clone, and failing miserably.
ChazUK
macrumors 603
Any reason you think that way? I ask because iOS was derived from OS X which certainly wasn't optimised for a touchscreen device.
Fragmentation, as in not each Android device available is running the same OS. Each iOS device available for purchase right now is on the same OS version. Whether or not there is a particular feature on one of those devices is just marketing.
The Incredible 4G LTE is running Android 4.0 and Sense 4. Why doesn't it have burst shot like the One X (running the same OS and using the same processor) does? 🙄
Mac.World
macrumors 68000
Create an app or cydia tweak for me that can be used on the 3GS, 4/4S, iPad, iPad2 and iPad3.
You want to see fragmentation, you will by doing this. I'm not saying Android is better, it isn't, just that all Mobile OS's are fragmented in one way or another.
entatlrg
macrumors 68040
I have two lines, one on an iPhone 4S the other on more Android phones than I care to mention.
Most recently, Galaxy's, Galaxy Nexus, HTC One X, and currently the HTC One S.
Your 11 points summed up, better than I can put into words, the same feelings I have about Android.
Thanks!
Most recently, Galaxy's, Galaxy Nexus, HTC One X, and currently the HTC One S.
Your 11 points summed up, better than I can put into words, the same feelings I have about Android.
Thanks!
anyone that says Android apps look like IOS apps need to be bitch slapped. I can give two examples for anyone that has ios and android. The Big Oven and TWC look completely different on my ipad and my Asus Tablet. They are ugly compared to ios. Android still doesn't even have a Gametime courtside app which is a must have for NBA fans that have a tablet. People need to understand it's really true when ppl say android apps look like garbage compared to ios counterparts. I didn't believe it until I bought my first IOS device.
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actually it can't cope. I have siri on my iphone 4 and when I have to many apps open siri is fawking slow to work. I have to make sure not to many apps are open. Apple wants everything to run smooth.
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actually it can't cope. I have siri on my iphone 4 and when I have to many apps open siri is fawking slow to work. I have to make sure not to many apps are open. Apple wants everything to run smooth.
iRobajob
macrumors newbie
Agreed.
I have the ability to compare every iOS app to the android counterpart. While some look the same (big name apps like flipboard) most do look like crap compared to iOS. One of the very few apps that look better on android is YouTube. which goes without saying. Like many others its one of the many reasons I love iOS. The premium app experience.
I respect android and I don't care what others like as it is none of my business. Both platforms have ups and downs. Simple as that.
ravenvii
macrumors 604
iRobajob
macrumors newbie
This is what I believe most people miss when talking about fragmentation. If I am correct when people/blogs/whatever refer to fragmentation they are talking about the number of users spread out across numerous OS versions as well as the numerous hardware variations. I am not sure what siri has to do with that either to be honest.
Club android has tried to redefine what fragmentstion is to somehow prove that iOS is just as fragmented as android.
I've always known it to be a developer term referencing "fragmented" resources when it comes to scoping, developing and supporting ongoing and completed projects which obviously affects the user experience and quality of the app...and profits.
Hence developers love iOS.
Mac.World
macrumors 68000
Not what I meant. I know they can be created for all devices, I've made a few tweaks myself for Cydia. My point is, that in order to create them, you have to code for ipad sd and hd, plus for iphone sd and hd. Different pixel densities just for images. This is called fragmentation.
Well that's just how it is because, fortunately, Apple's devices have evolved. At least you can easily support multiple devices on iOS, whereas it'd be impossible for an Android developer to fully support every Android phone and tablet on the market because there are too many.
How many different resolutions do you have to code for on iOS?
How many variations are there on Android?
Just Sayin...
I guess you could call me an "Android Fanboy." I've owned 2 Android phones and the first one, the Samsung Captivate, was great for about a year. Then it began becoming very laggy and slow. I lost that phone by swimming with it ( 😉 ) and AT&T sent me a Samsung Skyrocket, which has since been upgraded to ICS. I will admit that Android 1.5-2.3 were laggy, and frankly not ready for prime time. ICS was almost ready (it runs great on my Skyrocket), and now with Jelly Bean I believe Android will be just as smooth as iOS.
I'm not afraid to admit Android has flaws, and it sucks that the OP had a terrible experience with Android. It's just not for some people, and that's why we have choice. 🙂 However, pretending iOS doesn't have any flaws is just being ignorant.
Mac.World
macrumors 68000
I agree with you. I wasn't disagreeing. I am simply pointing out that fragmentation is on every OS and always will bean issue, until such point that the technology stagnates.
ChrisTX
macrumors 68030
Honestly if I see a thread that is relevant to my interests then I will comment if I feel my input is needed. I just don't see the need for 10 different Android threads concerning the same exact topic. The last thing we need here is another Galaxy Note, or S3 thread, but we all know it's inevitable. If I joined an Android community to discuss the iPhone, I'm sure I would get the same reaction there. /rant 😎