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Bottom line is receiving stolen property is a crime. Freedom of the press does not immunize anyone against criminal prosecution when a crime exists.
 
I posted this in the original thread but all 3 parties are at fault here

1) The police did an illegal search

2) Hogan sold stolen merchandise

3) Gawker purchased stolen merchandise

The appropriate thing would have been for Hogan to turn in the phone to the police, and then wait 30 days for it to go unclaimed. It's clear that Apple would have contacted the police the next day and had their stolen merchandise returned
 
I was just thinking about this today... I really don't care about Gizmodo but whatever happen to the guy from Apple that left the phone at the bar? Does he still work for Apple?
 
I was just thinking about this today... I really don't care about Gizmodo but whatever happen to the guy from Apple that left the phone at the bar? Does he still work for Apple?

I'm sure I read somewhere that he was on the development team which creates the phone app. I'm sure he still had his job after the story broke. I'm not 100% though, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also do Gizmodo get invited to Apple media events? I'm guessing not.
 
I was just thinking about this today... I really don't care about Gizmodo but whatever happen to the guy from Apple that left the phone at the bar? Does he still work for Apple?

From the article:
"Powell's LinkedIn profile says that he's still employed at Apple. Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak publicly came to Powell's defense last year, saying "it's a bad accident that could happen to any of us."
 
Gizmodo and Hogan should be jailed for 5 years. Or at the very least they should pay Apple compensation for profitting from stolen goods.

Gizmodo and Hogan should be jailed for 5 years. Or at the very least they should pay Apple compensation for profitting from stolen goods.

Or am I being harsh? :D
 
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I still read gizmodo (in classic-guise), I think its an entertaining tech blog.

The whole lost iPhone 4 malarky didn't prevent me from purchasing one, so I don't really see the harm done... if anything it created MUCH publicity.

I believe they're still uninvited from Apple events.
 
I still read gizmodo (in classic-guise), I think its an entertaining tech blog.

The whole lost iPhone 4 malarky didn't prevent me from purchasing one, so I don't really see the harm done... if anything it created MUCH publicity.

I believe they're still uninvited from Apple events.

Yep. I think the demand for the iPhone 4 would have still been very high, but I think Gizmodo's leak pushed it to unchartered territory. EVERYONE was drooling over that thing and chomping at the bit to get one.
 
I'm sure I read somewhere that he was on the development team which creates the phone app. I'm sure he still had his job after the story broke. I'm not 100% though, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also do Gizmodo get invited to Apple media events? I'm guessing not.

They weren't even invited to the Verizon iphone announcement. That's the only time Verizon snubbed them.
 
I have to wonder how they're doing over there at Gawker Media...

They've had this case over their heads for nearly a year.

Then a month or so ago they had a severe format change, which I suspect has driven quite a few people away from Engadget, Lifehacker and the other sites.

I know that I certainly go to those sites much less often than before. Heck, I can't even render some of their pages now on Firefox on an older PC.
 
I have to wonder how they're doing over there at Gawker Media...

They've had this case over their heads for nearly a year.

Then a month or so ago they had a severe format change, which I suspect has driven quite a few people away from Engadget, Lifehacker and the other sites.

I know that I certainly go to those sites much less often than before. Heck, I can't even render some of their pages now on Firefox on an older PC.

I think there's an option you can click to have it display the articles in the old way.
 
I posted this in the original thread but all 3 parties are at fault here

1) The police did an illegal search

2) Hogan sold stolen merchandise

3) Gawker purchased stolen merchandise

The appropriate thing would have been for Hogan to turn in the phone to the police, and then wait 30 days for it to go unclaimed. It's clear that Apple would have contacted the police the next day and had their stolen merchandise returned

I didn't think that their search was illegal, but if it was, Gawker can't be prosecuted. If the police violate a law in gathering evidence, that evidence can't be used to convict the person. Unless they have enough without the search, they won't be able to do anything
 
I didn't think that their search was illegal, but if it was, Gawker can't be prosecuted. If the police violate a law in gathering evidence, that evidence can't be used to convict the person. Unless they have enough without the search, they won't be able to do anything
They had a warrant
 
I didn't think that their search was illegal, but if it was, Gawker can't be prosecuted. If the police violate a law in gathering evidence, that evidence can't be used to convict the person. Unless they have enough without the search, they won't be able to do anything

There are a handful of exceptions to "the fruit of the poisonous tree." More than one of them likely applies here, as it does in many other cases.
 
I have to wonder how they're doing over there at Gawker Media...

They've had this case over their heads for nearly a year.

Then a month or so ago they had a severe format change, which I suspect has driven quite a few people away from Engadget, Lifehacker and the other sites.

I know that I certainly go to those sites much less often than before. Heck, I can't even render some of their pages now on Firefox on an older PC.

Engadget isn't on Gawker, they did their own funky change a while ago which is why I hardly ever go there anymore. Giz is a bunch of ass hats who think they're the best thing to happen to tech blogging ever, they deserve everything that happens to them.
 
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The whole lost iPhone 4 malarky didn't prevent me from purchasing one, so I don't really see the harm done... if anything it created MUCH publicity.

Yep, and Gizmodo did Apple a favor in at least one other way:

The leak gave people time to get over the dramatic style change.

Hard to forget how many fans were convinced that "Apple would never design anything that looked like that!"
 
Yep, and Gizmodo did Apple a favor in at least one other way:

The leak gave people time to get over the dramatic style change.

Hard to forget how many fans were convinced that "Apple would never design anything that looked like that!"

That is absolutely true...I remember everyone saying that it was too blocky, too different, and that those "seams" were obviously shoddy workmanship. I think people would've bought it regardless, but could you imaging the iPhone 4 designed by customers who were used to the iPhone 3G/3GS? Rounded off bar of soap with a better camera and front-facing camera...maybe a higher-resolution display, but nobody really was thinking in terms of 300+ ppi.
 
Yep. I think the demand for the iPhone 4 would have still been very high, but I think Gizmodo's leak pushed it to unchartered territory. EVERYONE was drooling over that thing and chomping at the bit to get one.

the problem is that the early leak of the iPhone 4 caused many people who would have otherwise purchased an iphone 3G or 3GS to see what the next phone is going to look like = lost revenue in those people that would have purchased an iphone 3g/3gs + iPhone 4


The warrant was illegal, and it was eventually withdrawn

http://www.geekosystem.com/gizmodo-iphone-warrant-police/

best explanations of why it was illegal found online

The purpose of the California shield law is not to protect journalists so much as it is to protect sources. What the law states is that a warrant is not sufficient to search and seize a journalist’s (work) property. A subpoena is necessary because it gives the journalist a chance to appear in front of a judge before the information is turned over to investigators and make a case as to what property pertains to the case and what doesn’t.

This is to prevent “newsroom seizures”, in which a newsroom is raided under a warrant and all property within is seized. Why does this matter? Because newsrooms (or in today’s world journalists’ work computers) are sure to contain tons of confidential information regarding completely unrelated to the iPhone case. In this case Mr. Chen very likely may have emails from leakers of trade secrets, corporate whistleblowers, etc. Anything detailed by a source as illegal in an email or other document the police would be required to act upon even if it didn’t have anything to do with the case at hand, thus compromising the journalist’s sources. The ability of a journalist to do his or her job hinges on his or her ability to build trust with confidential sources. The possibility that they might be given up in the course of a completely unrelated investigation would be a huge roadblock for any journalist seeking sensitive information. Thus, California law states that a subpoena is necessary to seize work-related property from a journalist, and why the warrant used to seize Mr. Chen’s property appears to indeed be invalid. (This is why Grand Jury leaks of journalist’s sources are important and troubling.)

. Penal Code section 1524(g) says sets forth that "no warrants shall issue" for unpublished "notes, outtakes, photographs, tapes or other data of whatever sort" if that information was "obtained or prepared in gathering, receiving or processing of information for communication to the public." There is no statutory exception for cases in which the journalist is the one under investigation.
 
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I cant believe he sold it for $5000

I bet you could of got a lot more than that out of another company developing phones.
 
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