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12.9-Inch 'iPad Pro' Could Have Flexible Touch Panel With Increased Sensitivity

Derekuda said:
Does anyone else feel like that now that phones are an average of 5 inches that tablets are no longer relevant? I know personally, that I grab for my phone 9 times out of 10 before i grab my tablet, and if I need something bigger, i grab my laptop.
Also, Tablet sales have been on a rapid decline. I feel like tablets have overstayed their short lived welcome.
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With a 4" phone and a relatively heavy laptop, I couldn't find an iPad sized gap in my life.

When I upgrade to a 4.7" phone, and get an even more capable laptop (that weighs less) I'd be surprised if that changed.

I love my Mac and my iPhone so much, I don't want to spend £500 on a device to use them less.

But that didn't stop Apple selling millions of them. I guess I am not a typical user.
 
If it's nice and fast, I'm definitely gonna buy this. My main concern is weight though.
 
It's the largest iPod yet.

Maybe we'll get lucky and have 4x4 folders.
 
thekeyring said:
I seriously doubt Apple - known for simplicity and UX - would encourage everyone to use a device which requires two operating systems.

I don't think Apple want us to think of the iPad as a "tablet running iOS". If there are features Pro users want, be it in hardware or software, these can be added. In hardware: from the "iPad Pro" design. In software: From an iOS update.
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Exactly. Tim Cook said it himself, it would just be like making a toaster-refrigerator hybrid. Contrary to what I said before, I don't think :apple: are in the position to replace their MacBook lineup, and seeing as they just introduced their strong new lineup. It would make more people replace their laptops, but they will still be there for those who need that power.
 
Now, if they only add a detachable cover with a keyboard, and OS-X capabilities, then we are talking. And, USB ports, SD-cards, mirc-HDMI out.
Wow, it would almost be as good almost a Surface 3 or Yoga 3. :)
 
Some people just won't understand that some (many) people prefer a multitouch interface to the traditional mouse and windows paradigm.

A touch based interface is not "a compromise for when you don't have a mouse/trackpad", it's a different way of doing things.

A lot of people prefer to use tablets in a context where portability is not as important (such as home) because they like the touch interface and the way it works. For these use cases, a bigger screen is an advantage, not a hindrance.
 
Curious to see how it would stack up against the Surface Pro 4 price wise..

One big differentiation could be LTE connectivity. I don't see how MS can add an LTE modem to those Intel systems since they are not true SoC with built in modems.

The ipad pro can easily have LTE..
 
I was surprised to read the first paragraph of this post, thinking "Apple is releasing this at the end of the year, it must be pretty much fixed by now?" Then it goes on to suggest that this thing isn't coming out until next year. :confused:

I know we can't say a product is delayed when Apple haven't even announced it's existence, but doesn't anyone else feel like Apple is dithering with all their new product launches?

slightly off topic though, to be honest I've found my iPad gathering dust over the last year. About all I use it for is playing the odd game and a little light browsing. My MBA has proven itself - after the novelty of the iPad wore off that it's simply more versatile and convenient when I need something bigger than my phone. The inherent inflexibility of iOS becomes apparent when I actually want to get work done, or even do something as simple as copy a few films off my Drobo to take with me on a trip.

Sure I can do many of the things on the iPad that I might need to do on the MBA, but I find them clumsier and less convenient. I can only pray that this 'Pro' device attempts to fix those shortcomings.

Mouse support, a much more useful file browser and even basic I/O support is top on that list. When Apple announced iCloud Drive, I was ecstatic and though that it would be a real Dropbox competitor. But it's execution was pathetic. You can do better Apple! I feel like they've been too afraid that the iPad was going to cannibalise the Mac market.
 
nj-morris said:
Exactly. Tim Cook said it himself, it would just be like making a toaster-refrigerator hybrid. Contrary to what I said before, I don't think :apple: are in the position to replace their MacBook lineup, and seeing as they just introduced their strong new lineup. It would make more people replace their laptops, but they will still be there for those who need that power.
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Yeah, exactly. It's interesting what will happen to the lineup. Perhaps eventually the iPad will be so functional that there won't be an ultra-thin MacBook anymore.

After you've added enough features, it might as well be a MacBook. Especially people who say "I want a keyboard, the ability to plug in a mouse, and OS X". I think Why on Earth don't you buy a MacBook?!

It's as if they've fallen for iPad, know they don't need one, but want Apple to change it so they can replace their laptop with one.

That said though, it would be lovely if Phil Schiller stood on stage at WWDC and showed us an iPad with FCP X, Motion, Logic Pro... Then invited an Adobe exec on to show us Creative Cloud apps like Flash and Photoshop running. Will the same feature set as the OS X and Windows versions. And then someone from Autodesk showed us Maya, and Fcheck...
 
H2SO4 said:
If it still runs iOS it’s not Pro.
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You're forgetting how efficient iOS and ARM are compared to OS X and x86. Here are some examples:

-A MacBook Pro with a huge battery lasts as long as the latest highly praised iPad with a third of the battery size.
-The equivalent on OS X of any one storage size on iOS is about 8 times the amount of storage (e.g. 16GB on iOS, 128GB on OS X).
-Updates on OS X take about 3 times as much storage as on iOS.
-OS X uses about 6 times as much memory as iOS.

Sure, the iPad is unable to run pro software, but I feel the compromises are too much. If ARM reaches the benchmarks of x86, with the same power efficiency, they could really go there with the A9 and A9X.
 
Don't really see much a need for a device like this that runs standard IOS.

Perhaps Apple is planning on releasing some sort of a new hybrid IOS operating system -- incorporating some sort of a file system and a reworked cloud drive that is also compatible with other cloud drive services (DropBox, OneDrive, Google Drive, etc.)
 
iZac said:
I was surprised to read the first paragraph of this post, thinking "Apple is releasing this at the end of the year, it must be pretty much fixed by now?" Then it goes on to suggest that this thing isn't coming out until next year. :confused:

I know we can't say a product is delayed when Apple haven't even announced it's existence, but doesn't anyone else feel like Apple is dithering with all their new product launches?.
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If they release an App Store for Apple TV at WWDC, lots of developers would then have to choose where to direct resources: Apple TV or Apple Watch?

I know you mentioned the iPad Pro specifically, but this is just an example of why Apple might delay a product launch despite it being "ready".

Perhaps Apple are holding back on giving developers too much work. After all, if the TV excites people so much the Watch fails to gain lots of lovely third-party apps, there could be a problem.
 
thekeyring said:
Yeah, exactly. It's interesting what will happen to the lineup. Perhaps eventually the iPad will be so functional that there won't be an ultra-thin MacBook anymore.

After you've added enough features, it might as well be a MacBook. Especially people who say "I want a keyboard, the ability to plug in a mouse, and OS X". I think Why on Earth don't you buy a MacBook?!

It's as if they've fallen for iPad, know they don't need one, but want Apple to change it so they can replace their laptop with one.

That said though, it would be lovely if Phil Schiller stood on stage at WWDC and showed us an iPad with FCP X, Motion, Logic Pro... Then invited an Adobe exec on to show us Creative Cloud apps like Flash and Photoshop running. Will the same feature set as the OS X and Windows versions. And then someone from Autodesk showed us Maya, and Fcheck...
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Look here, somebody who understands. I like your ideas. And with the last paragraph, I've actually been hoping for that sort of thing too.
 
D.T. said:
If it runs 26 miles, it's a marathon.
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I love this forum.

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nj-morris said:
Look here, somebody who understands. I like your ideas. And with the last paragraph, I've actually been hoping for that sort of thing too.
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Same, and I think the initial response is "the software isn't advanced enough" or "the hardware isn't powerful enough" - Enter iPad Pro + iOS 9 which is rumoured to focus on optimisations and battery life. As in: Optimised for iPad.
 
Don't care about force touch. Please don't delay the iPad Pro in order to make enhancements in that area.

Just want that big screen, the pressure sensitive pen, USB-C, and a functional iOS that truly works as a seamless supplement to my Mac.

No OS X.
 
thekeyring said:
Same, and I think the initial response is "the software isn't advanced enough" or "the hardware isn't powerful enough" - Enter iPad Pro + iOS 9 which is rumoured to focus on optimisations and battery life. As in: Optimised for iPad.
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You know what, I never actually thought about iOS 9 being an optimisation release, even though the word was in front of my face the whole time. And yes, I do hope that they optimise it. Not just for iPad, but for newer devices as well. I find it stupid how the lates trending iPhone has the same software as a 2011 iPhone.
 
nj-morris said:
You're forgetting how efficient iOS and ARM are compared to OS X and x86. Here are some examples:

-A MacBook Pro with a huge battery lasts as long as the latest highly praised iPad with a third of the battery size.
-The equivalent on OS X of any one storage size on iOS is about 8 times the amount of storage (e.g. 16GB on iOS, 128GB on OS X).
-Updates on OS X take about 3 times as much storage as on iOS.
-OS X uses about 6 times as much memory as iOS.

Sure, the iPad is unable to run pro software, but I feel the compromises are too much. If ARM reaches the benchmarks of x86, with the same power efficiency, they could really go there with the A9 and A9X.
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Super. Then it can play Netflix and Angry Birds all day long.
Very professional.
 
BarryLegg said:
Is the iPad the most boring Apple product? Is there something they make which is more boring than iPad? I mean, apart from Pages or something...
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The AEBS is (IMO) more boring. There's a little excitement the day it arrives, when you hook it up and get it working. Then, it's pretty much ignored for the rest of it's life. It's a great product and all but nary a hint of excitement beyond that first day (for me anyways).
 
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