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You know what, I never actually thought about iOS 9 being an optimisation release, even though the word was in front of my face the whole time. And yes, I do hope that they optimise it. Not just for iPad, but for newer devices as well. I find it stupid how the lates trending iPhone has the same software as a 2011 iPhone.
I hope that the optimization is specifically targeted for the iPad/iPad Pro. There's way too much that needs to be done for that. It isn't necessary for the iPhone as iPhone sales simply continue to grow (in spite of an "unoptimized" iOS). :)
 
Nobody wants a really big iPod. For it to be Pro it needs to run Mac OS X, have precision pen and detachable/flippable keyboard cover.
 
Oh man, I've said this a million times but I really want an iPad that has native pressure support for drawing. Hopefully this will come true! As others have said, however, they really need to beef up iOS if they want to stick a "Pro" badge on it. There has got to be a better way to handle files and we need to be able to attach accessories for certain tasks, like scanners and the like. Opening up a simple USB API alongside the USB-C port would be welcome. It could just be limited to certain types of devices and inputs. But it would be better than what we have now. It also needs to have a bit more RAM than the standard iPad if photographers ever want to use it to edit RAW files at full resolution. For now Adobe's solution with Lightroom is ok but it's not robust enough to let you import RAW files from the device itself. It just syncs the lower resolution previews through the Creative Cloud and then syncs the RAW metadata back over the cloud.

I might eventually get an iPad Pro but I might skip the first version for this reason: The professional apps aren't quite there yet. Hopefully Apple would include some to get us started, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I still prefer running a full OS, even if it's Windows. iOS is fairly limited, even for browsing and note taking. Not to mention a real active digitizer is the only way to go for painting, sketching and writing. The Surface Pro is a real paper replacement, if anyone still cares about such things. I know I need to sketch and write equations by hand from time to time to solve complex engineering problems, annotate screen shots, etc.
 
I still prefer running a full OS, even if it's Windows. iOS is fairly limited, even for browsing and note taking. Not to mention a real active digitizer is the only way to go for painting, sketching and writing. The Surface Pro is a real paper replacement, if anyone still cares about such things. I know I need to sketch and write equations by hand from time to time to solve complex engineering problems, annotate screen shots, etc.
A full desktop OS produces a subpar experience on a tablet. It was subpar back when Microsoft first attempted it 15 years ago. It's still true today.
 
I don't really understand this. I use my iPad Air 2, and a lot more than I'd like to admit, for everything: business, education and leisure. It runs and does everything I need it for, while being super snappy. The hardware doesn't need to change one bit. The software could take more advantage of the larger window (but so could iOS on iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, definitely guilty of the same exact problem).

Changing the iPad just to make it different would be a disaster. Just leave it what it is and continue to make software improvements, Apple. Us extremely satisfied iPad customers aren't that loud, but the guys who are bored with the same hardware year after year are.
 
If it still runs iOS it’s not Pro.

I don't care as long as they finally get the stylus done as its supposed to be done.

Apple is really really stupid here, even Adobe released their own version (together with Adonit) for Apple, despite the fact that Samsung has this actually done right, meaning there is a *huge* market and *huge* third-party support already! (Penultimate i.e.)...

so many of us have in vain tried expensive styluses just to be let down again and again.

That to me, would completely sell the "Pro" moniker, despite running iOS.
 
a larger iPad? meeeh. not impressed UNLESS it runs OSX...

and regardless... price wise the iPad Pro would be already getting very close to the MBA to begin with...
 
I don't care as long as they finally get the stylus done as its supposed to be done.

Apple is really really stupid here, even Adobe released their own version (together with Adonit) for Apple, despite the fact that Samsung has this actually done right, meaning there is a *huge* market and *huge* third-party support already! (Penultimate i.e.)...

so many of us have in vain tried expensive styluses just to be let down again and again.

That to me, would completely sell the "Pro" moniker, despite running iOS.

while i'm firmly in the 'please god, OSX' camp, i'd agree that the stylus COULD be all it takes. but only if it's friggin amazing. like new tech for the actual stylus, AND utilizing force touch. this has to be wacom level sensitive - or pixelmatr + the ability to save semi-useful PSD files won't cut it.

apple would be smart to compete with the Surface pro, but they'd also be off-the-wall and historically experimental enough to try and compete with just the wacom/cintiq, utilizing iOS developers.. they can certainly encourage certain teams to make desktop-level apps for iOS with the right approach.

me personally, i'd STILL be pining for a file system.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I love my iPad Air. But when it comes to a Pro model I am kind of "eh". Honestly if I wanted a light weight computer I would really just get a macbook air.
 
Does anyone else feel like that now that phones are an average of 5 inches that tablets are no longer relevant? I know personally, that I grab for my phone 9 times out of 10 before i grab my tablet, and if I need something bigger, i grab my laptop.
Also, Tablet sales have been on a rapid decline. I feel like tablets have overstayed their short lived welcome.

Yes. They were never all that useful. Big phones and small ultraportables makes them irrelevant.
 
i guess the bigger phones may sway a few people to get get the iPhone 6 Plus'es or higher when available, while iPad's cease....

However, i guess they'll always be a market for 9.7-inch tablets....

Why would you want that size in a phone ?, unless u wanna use Bluetooth headsets all the time.
 
If it still runs iOS it’s not Pro.

what does running iOS or OS X have to do with calling it a Pro?


Nothing. iOS is mobile OS X is for computers. LOL, Pro has been always about hardware specs.


Whys is the former and current Macbook called a Macbook when the Macbook Pro uses both OS X. You're very smart buddy.




The iPad Pro is going to be called a Pro because most professionals will use this. Design team, Production team, etc etc

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designers and production staff, Designers that use illustrator and QC Staff.


pretty much answer your question? not to mention anyone or anyone in the industry where it uses Wacom or any other stylus system would probably want to check it out.


Yeah those people, probably millions when you're talking about the global scale.
 
A full desktop OS produces a subpar experience on a tablet. It was subpar back when Microsoft first attempted it 15 years ago. It's still true today.

Yes and No: but for me full desktop OS on a tablet (SP3) is exactly what I was dreaming of.

Of course, you still may take some compromises with Windows in its current state, but I hope the ability to switch tablet/desktop modes in Win10 will iron them out.
 
A touch based interface is not "a compromise for when you don't have a mouse/trackpad", it's a different way of doing things.

And for many everyday business tasks, a touch UI is like eating peas with one chopstick.
 
So everything else is set besides this "force touch input"? I'm not so sure having this much variety of devices is good for them. OTOH, they've got enough cash to take a hit in case it's not a hit, so it seems harmless enough. I just don't know if there are many takers of whom many already went with a MBA.
 
Does anyone else feel like that now that phones are an average of 5 inches that tablets are no longer relevant? I know personally, that I grab for my phone 9 times out of 10 before i grab my tablet, and if I need something bigger, i grab my laptop.
Also, Tablet sales have been on a rapid decline. I feel like tablets have overstayed their short lived welcome.

Nope, don't feel that way at all. Reason there is a decline in new sales is because people don't buy new iPads every year or every other year like an iPhone. Maybe just every 3-4 years.

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A full desktop OS produces a subpar experience on a tablet. It was subpar back when Microsoft first attempted it 15 years ago. It's still true today.

Tell that to all the people that love their Surface Pro 4's and Surface 3's. Put a BT keyboard on an iPad Pro and other than the OS you basically have a Surface. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. If Microsoft can do it, why can't Apple. Or is Apple just not as innovative as Microsoft?
 
Tell that to all the people that love their Surface Pro 4's and Surface 3's.
I did. And even many of those who love their Surface devices admit that tablet user experience is less than it is with an iPad. Primarily because of the lack of touch optimized apps. Using desktop apps in touch mode is sub par.



Put a BT keyboard on an iPad Pro and other than the OS you basically have a Surface. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. If Microsoft can do it, why can't Apple. Or is Apple just not as innovative as Microsoft?
OSX on an iPad Pro will be equally sub par.

I have stated numerous times here that a "Pro" iPad doesn't need OSX, but needs something "deeper" than iOS in its current form.

The ecosystem for iOS apps is absolutely rich and there is very little stopping iOS apps from being as fully functional as a desktop app. There's enough horsepower in the hardware (potentially even more with an upgraded "Pro" device).

Based on my experiences with Surface devices, hybrid 2-in-1 Windows tablets, Android tablets, Macbooks, and iPads, I know that I'd be quite satisfied with an iPad Pro that I've outlined... I would not be satisfied with a Surface 3 or Surface Pro.
 
I don't understand the purpose of the iPad "pro" at this point. I assume that Apple are going to deliver something different with the OS - I can't see it being iOS nor can I see it being full-blown OSX - perhaps other users have been correct in saying it's going to be a hybrid OS of sorts .. I guess time will tell.

At the moment, a person could be forgiven in thinking that Apple are just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks - at a time in the past the products had clear target audiences and clear and concise purposes - MacBook Air for Portability, MacBoook Pro for power/processing, iPad for consumption and iPhone for communications. With the number of products now on offer by Apple the lines are blurring. A iPhone 6 plus can be a small tablet, you have MacBook Air, MacBook and MacBook Pro and MacBook Pro Retina to chose from. With the introduction of the iPad Pro, it's yet another choice.

I'm not saying having these choices is a bad thing at all - choice is great, but I kind of miss the simplicity of going to Apple's site, reading for 3 mins and knowing exactly what each device was for - these days it's not so clear.

I bought a Surface Pro 3 when they released and it's been so darned good to me that I sold my iPad, MacBook Air and even my Desktop PC - the SP3 serves all three purposes. Say what you like about Windows 8 - yes it's a confusing OS but maybe MS are onto something with the converging device and OS theory that Apple also plan to tap into ? With Apple's attention to detail and design it is going to get VERY interesting if they come up with something designed to be a "Surface Killer" !

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iPad Pro - The Pro meaning creative professionals. It's about time Apple starts to care again (a lot) about creative professionals on the platform. From the beginning they/we were and still are the principal force driving Apple.

With the Surface 3, Microsoft is seeing a hole in Apple's fence. Microsoft is joining forces with Adobe to make the Surface 'creative ready'. It's not quite there yet, but it will be soon. We are already seeing a lot of creative people (illustrators, artists, etc) choosing the Surface 3 because of this. It has a stylus that is made to work with the tablet for drawing, painting, etc. Adobe was one of the principal partners with Apple. The iPad is missing all of this, and the time is running out. Yes, there are good... great iPad apps for illustration and drawing, but they cannot make miracles to overcome the iPad sensitivity screen short-abilities. It's time to get serious about this. If Apple looses the tablet professional creative people it will be hard to get them back in the near future. And Jobs will turn inside his coffin with anger.

Yes there are a lot of stylus that work with the iPad, but they are not good for creative professionals to really do professional work in it. The iPad has a huge potencial in this area and this 'iPad Pro' better be it. Or at least the beginning of it. I'm not asking for a Wacom Cintiq... well, I am! But not for that price.

Also, the iPad Pro should come in all sizes, and like the Macbook, the iPad should have two categories, iPad and iPad Pro:
- iPad Pro mini
- iPad Pro
- iPad Pro Plus.

Yes, and should come with a kickass sensitive stylus for professional work.

I'm waiting for this since 2010. Maybe I'll write to Tim about it to see if he gives any hint about what's coming. :)
 
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