Ya I know, but I don't see myself needing more than 24GB of RAM. And with 3 X 4GB modules for each processor which support tri channel, it will be really fast. Not to mention 1333 MHz and an on board memory die 🙂
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Ya I know, but I don't see myself needing more than 24GB of RAM. And with 3 X 4GB modules for each processor which support tri channel, it will be really fast. Not to mention 1333 MHz and an on board memory die 🙂
tekboi
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Oh yea, it's reasonably priced... FIVE-****IN-THOUSAND GOTDAMN DOLLARS REASONABLE!
lol, seriously though. They MP's are priced pretty well. I was looking for a WorkStation (PC) w/ octo-core i7's and they wanted $3,800 for it. I was like WOW. Apple didn't seem so ridiculous after that. Here are the specs for the "PC Workstation"
Rain Recording Element
Windows 7
Two 2.26 Intel "Nehalem" Xeon Quad Core
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 Ram
500GB
ATI Radeon HD 4650
Dual Layer CD/DVD writer
No Wireless or Bluetooth
Power Supply 750 Watts
Price: 3799.00
The only category it falls short in is Graphics Cards. But, that is about to change come August 9th.
lol, seriously though. They MP's are priced pretty well. I was looking for a WorkStation (PC) w/ octo-core i7's and they wanted $3,800 for it. I was like WOW. Apple didn't seem so ridiculous after that. Here are the specs for the "PC Workstation"
Rain Recording Element
Windows 7
Two 2.26 Intel "Nehalem" Xeon Quad Core
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 Ram
500GB
ATI Radeon HD 4650
Dual Layer CD/DVD writer
No Wireless or Bluetooth
Power Supply 750 Watts
Price: 3799.00
The only category it falls short in is Graphics Cards. But, that is about to change come August 9th.
OK, so Apple and Dell both have strengths and weaknesses.
Both have comparable prices. That's not bad, given that Dell really competes on price.
Overall, Windows computers have more graphics options, and Dell has really good business support.
On the other hand, Apple runs OSX, and it's quite solidly built.
All we've learned today - the high-end MacPro isn't overpriced.
Both have comparable prices. That's not bad, given that Dell really competes on price.
Overall, Windows computers have more graphics options, and Dell has really good business support.
On the other hand, Apple runs OSX, and it's quite solidly built.
All we've learned today - the high-end MacPro isn't overpriced.
12 cores will run GridMathematica nicely, and I will add fermi Quadro or gtx 4xx when I can for CUDA work.
I dunno about what you're gonna do with XENONS, other than try to build yourself a custom Xbox360
Me, I'm gonna stick with a Xeon cpu 😉
I would say so. It would fit with Apple's insane currency exchange rate but I would rather see £3499 as at that point there is a chance I may be able to afford it with a student's discount. Otherwise I'll pass and wait for 2012 update as I guess there will be nothing in 2011
This machine is way better value for money than the previous nehalems.
However, if I look at speed/$ ratio it is still quite expensive. Consider that GPU power is going to be more important in the future for 3D rendering since the likes of Vray RT are going to be production ready within 2 years from now, putting all your money on 1 raw processing machine isn't a smart move if you want a professional machine for the coming 5 years.
Also due to the amazing amount of cores the power is too spread out. If I benchmark my 8 core 08 macpro on 1 core it only scores 0.9 Cinebench points. If I bench a Core i7 with Hyperthreading off I get 1.5 cinebench points on 1 core. Considering that MOST normal application use single threads to get their things done, even Cinema4D's preparing phase is mostly single threaded. A i7 with HT off is going to 'feel' a lot quicker than an 8 core macpro. In multicore rendering there is ofcourse no noticable effect.
No question about it that the new 12 cores are amazing machines, however if I had the budget to buy 1 really fast machine I would spread it out over 5 cheaper i7 930's. That would buy me more power, better scalability, also better warranty because every part has it's own free 3/7 year warranty policy instead of the 1 year you get for your macpro *unless you buy protection plan. And if GPU rendering is going to be awesome I can outfit those five i7's with 5, or 10 in SLI/corssfire GPU's! Better yet, if I think the processors are too slow I can upgrade them with 970 6 cores instead of 930 4 cores.
Now that my friend, is ULTIMATE 3D render power.
I am still very very happy with my 08 macpro though 🙂 (yes slightly fanboy)
However, if I look at speed/$ ratio it is still quite expensive. Consider that GPU power is going to be more important in the future for 3D rendering since the likes of Vray RT are going to be production ready within 2 years from now, putting all your money on 1 raw processing machine isn't a smart move if you want a professional machine for the coming 5 years.
Also due to the amazing amount of cores the power is too spread out. If I benchmark my 8 core 08 macpro on 1 core it only scores 0.9 Cinebench points. If I bench a Core i7 with Hyperthreading off I get 1.5 cinebench points on 1 core. Considering that MOST normal application use single threads to get their things done, even Cinema4D's preparing phase is mostly single threaded. A i7 with HT off is going to 'feel' a lot quicker than an 8 core macpro. In multicore rendering there is ofcourse no noticable effect.
No question about it that the new 12 cores are amazing machines, however if I had the budget to buy 1 really fast machine I would spread it out over 5 cheaper i7 930's. That would buy me more power, better scalability, also better warranty because every part has it's own free 3/7 year warranty policy instead of the 1 year you get for your macpro *unless you buy protection plan. And if GPU rendering is going to be awesome I can outfit those five i7's with 5, or 10 in SLI/corssfire GPU's! Better yet, if I think the processors are too slow I can upgrade them with 970 6 cores instead of 930 4 cores.
Now that my friend, is ULTIMATE 3D render power.
I am still very very happy with my 08 macpro though 🙂 (yes slightly fanboy)
Or you could say: All we've learned today is that Apple have very agressively priced the new high end Mac Pro thus going after more market share of this class of machine giving good value for money and will tempt more professionals to adopt the Mac working structure over it's Windows counterpart.
Now imagine if they do this same aggressive pricing with Sandy Bridge machines with USB3, Lightpeak, faster Firewire. Egg on face per chance? Humble pie eaten? Would you still choose a Dell over a Mac pro that costs less with those features?
- That's not to you specifically but to all the trolls on here.
Topper
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That's true for a friend of mine.
He needs at least 36 cores for DNA polymerase sequence and mapping analysis.
xBerserker
macrumors member
I remember hearing not too long ago that Intel is supposed to have an 80-core CPU by 2016 🙂
too bad we will all be dead in december 2012 😛
too bad we will all be dead in december 2012 😛
I presume you mean what's to be based off of the Tera Scale Project. At the time (2006), it was supposed to be out in 2010 (article). 😱 Obviously that hasn't happened... 😛