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12-Inch MacBook Air to Begin Production in 3rd Quarter 2014

BeamWalker said:
I am quite interested in a 12" MBA with Retina Display, I wouldn't wanna be an early adopter for an ARM solution though - there are just too many variables.
I'm not really sure about a fanless Design either since I wanna have the option to "work" with it rather than just browse the web and listen to music. If they feature an all new revolutionary Invention in terms of cooling I would probably wait a weak or two for the internet to put those new machines through their paces before pulling the trigger.
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Intel is the one making the fanless Broadwell processor, and they've already shown off fanless models. It has a lower thermal output because it's based on the 14nm process.

Please don't tell me the only way to get things done is with inefficient hardware. :rolleyes:
 
Naimfan said:
As I said, if that's the case for you I suggest more time exercising and less on the web.
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Apple has to cater to a population that includes a very high proportion of obese and unfit customers (potentially elderly as well, as the median population in many countries is aging). These people are not going to buy a computer that requires them to exercise more.

But it's not the weight that bothers me. I just like to carry the smallest possible bag because I think big laptop bags are ugly. I can force an MBA 11 into some iPad bags.
 
MacSince1990 said:
Then use a fan control app? Or try resetting the SMC as it's probably an issue with that?

How is your solution to a software/firmware problem the removal of a piece of hardware responsible for cooling?
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Back in the day I got into overclocking & finally had a PC with NINE FREAKING HIGH PERFORMANCE fans you really could hear down the street. I am burned out on fans. I never want to ever hear another fan. If fans are so great why don't you attach a few to your phone????
 
iolinux333 said:
If fans are so great why don't you attach a few to your phone????
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iolinux333 said:
Back in the day I got into overclocking & finally had a PC with NINE FREAKING HIGH PERFORMANCE fans you really could hear down the street. I am burned out on fans. I never want to ever hear another fan. If fans are so great why don't you attach a few to your phone????
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This was kind of an odd reply. But okay...

If you were really into high performance overclocking why didn't you go the liquid cooling route? =/

Was this a Pentium 4 by chance? :p
 
FuNGi said:
Maybe Apple will let me trade in my late-2010 13" MBA for $650 toward a new one?
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no, but eBay might

Macs have great resale value. Every time I want a new one, I just eBay my current one and recover a pretty large percentage of what I paid for it and end up paying just a few hundred $ more to upgrade. Try that with an Acer or Dell!
 
octothorpe8 said:
no, but eBay might

Macs have great resale value. Every time I want a new one, I just eBay my current one and recover a pretty large percentage of what I paid for it and end up paying just a few hundred $ more to upgrade. Try that with an Acer or Dell!
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Macs used to have great resale value. 10-15 years ago you could get 80-90% of its sticker price 2-3 years after you bought it. Not so much now... more like 50% for one year.
 
octothorpe8 said:
50%? I don't think it's quite that bad.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sac...n=4&_nkw=macbook+air+2013&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc
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It really is.

Most of those listings are either BIN or have no bids. The ones that do have bids are substantially lower.

Two years ago I bought a one-year-old (literally 365 days) 15" 2.0 GHz Quad MBP w/High-Res antiglare screen and a few extra features for my now-ex that would have cost about $2,200 new... for $1,125.

Late last year I bought myself a mid-2012 Quad 2.7 GHz MBP with the same HR Antiglare screen and a few extra features etc. that would have cost nearly $3,000 new for $1,600.

It really is that bad.
 
MacSince1990 said:
Macs used to have great resale value. 10-15 years ago you could get 80-90% of its sticker price 2-3 years after you bought it. Not so much now... more like 50% for one year.
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I think 50% depreciation in 1 year is definitely exaggerating. Perhaps if you have a last gen model and try to sell it right after a new gen – such as during the transition to retina.

I just checked what I could get for my late-2010 4GB 13" 128GB MBA on ebay per octothorpe8's suggestion (I have sold MBP's there before). Looks like I could pull $550 reliably for those numbers. Surprising really since it is now a nearly 4 year old machine. Thing is I just upgraded it with a 480GB Transcend SSD to see just how long this thing will last (it's not my only mac).

Despite only having 4GB of RAM and a 1.86Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo it still runs Aperture reasonably fine. My biggest complaint is the screen and upgrading to a current gen. won't help that.
 
If only the Macbook Pro/Retina was 5mm like the iMac.

However, the only way that would happen if ports were gone...

It's a nice dream though ...)
 
FuNGi said:
I think 50% depreciation in 1 year is definitely exaggerating. Perhaps if you have a last gen model and try to sell it right after a new gen – such as during the transition to retina.

I just checked what I could get for my late-2010 4GB 13" 128GB MBA on ebay per octothorpe8's suggestion (I have sold MBP's there before). Looks like I could pull $550 reliably for those numbers. Surprising really since it is now a nearly 4 year old machine. Thing is I just upgraded it with a 480GB Transcend SSD to see just how long this thing will last (it's not my only mac).

Despite only having 4GB of RAM and a 1.86Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo it still runs Aperture reasonably fine. My biggest complaint is the screen and upgrading to a current gen. won't help that.
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Did you see the post I just made above this one? :p

50% might be a bit of an exaggeration (and it *is* model-dependent-- higher-end I suppose will depreciate faster, and I imagine Mac Pros probably don't fall quite as quick), but not by much.
 
MacSince1990 said:
Did you see the post I just made above this one? :p

50% might be a bit of an exaggeration (and it *is* model-dependent-- higher-end I suppose will depreciate faster, and I imagine Mac Pros probably don't fall quite as quick), but not by much.
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I did and the 2013 MBA's aren't 50% off their new prices in the link you provided! I'm looking at the sold prices, not BIN's (buy-it-nows) FYI. Your personal examples, buying cMBP's when the rMBP's had came out is precisely the point I was making — that when models switch form factors their value falls more precipitously. Watch what happens to the current MBP model prices when they switch designs.
 
FuNGi said:
I did and the 2013 MBA's aren't 50% off their new prices in the link you provided! I'm looking at the sold prices, not BIN's (buy-it-nows) FYI. Your personal examples, buying cMBP's when the rMBP's had came out is precisely the point I was making — that when models switch form factors their value falls more precipitously. Watch what happens to the current MBP model prices when they switch designs.
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Hum? I didn't provide a link! Someone else did, but notice they'd not selling... look for actual sale prices, not BINs or unbid-on items.

I'm not sure that's entirely true about the new models thing. When I bought the Early 2011 MBP, retina had *just* been introduced, and it was only an option.... they were still selling Classic MBPs.

I bought a cMBP because it's upgradeable, repairable, and I didn't need a 2880x1800 display- 1680x1050 is fine. I also wanted a DVD-RW just in case. And the cMBPs are a bit faster due to lesser thermal constraints =P


From what I've seen, the rMBPs aren't *that* much more expensive than the classics spec-for-spec.
 
SuperCachetes said:
Wow bro u work out???

No, seriously. If you think an iPad mini replaces a fully-functional MacBook, you are missing the concept. If you're so unconcerned with weight, why don't you replace your 2007 MacBook with a new iMac you can tote around and plug in wherever you go? I mean, that's fair, right? Same thing? :confused:

I've forgotten what the other arrogant fellow was even arguing (other than for better physical fitness, which I support anyway). Frankly, less mass and smaller dimensions in devices are almost always welcome. And if they aren't - well, Apple's going to go down that road regardless. I seriously doubt their ulterior motive is to keep us soft and weak.
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This conversation is getting way to silly. I mean the difference is over 10 pounds, that's not even what would bother me it's the size not weight! For hat I would just carry around a Mac mini. That being said I just going to wait for the
iwatch and get a two liter
 
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