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Who uses ports these days? Next to no one, so its really a pointless debate and those that do use ports are normally at home. So a USB C hub is a simple, cheap and small accessory that addresses this need. If you want power, you have the rMBP.

Plenty of people use SD card readers, USB thumb drives, ethernet cables, VGA projectors (especially those who desire an ultraportable), etc.

"Oh just use a USB-C hub!" = another box to carry about. Somewhat defeating the purpose of a 1kg machine.

Don't get me wrong, the Macbook is a neat little device, but there are a large number of very real compromises you need to make if you want to use it. Some people don't hit those very often. For others it may be a deal breaker.

As to USB-C "only a problem at the moment" - well, some utopian future where everything is USB-C is all well and good, but the reality we live in today, virtually every USB device you encounter will be plain old regular USB.

Don't get me wrong, it will be great when USB-C takes off, and it's great that Apple are pushing it with the Macbook. But it hasn't yet. And by the time it is more common than legacy USB, the current model Macbook will be out of warranty, superseded, etc. For those people trying to get work done TODAY, USB-C is a disadvantage, not a plus.
 
Plenty of people use SD card readers, USB thumb drives, ethernet cables, VGA projectors (especially those who desire an ultraportable), etc.

"Oh just use a USB-C hub!" = another box to carry about. Somewhat defeating the purpose of a 1kg machine.

Don't get me wrong, the Macbook is a neat little device, but there are a large number of very real compromises you need to make if you want to use it. Some people don't hit those very often. For others it may be a deal breaker.

As to USB-C "only a problem at the moment" - well, some utopian future where everything is USB-C is all well and good, but the reality we live in today, virtually every USB device you encounter will be plain old regular USB.

Don't get me wrong, it will be great when USB-C takes off, and it's great that Apple are pushing it with the Macbook. But it hasn't yet. And by the time it is more common than legacy USB, the current model Macbook will be out of warranty, superseded, etc. For those people trying to get work done TODAY, USB-C is a disadvantage, not a plus.

Well, to be fair: for those people trying to get work done today for whom having plenty of ports on the go is a necessity, it's a disadvantage, for sure. That doesn't rule out that there are some people for whom the lack of ports means nought, and having increased portability and other refinements like a retina screen is a bonus.
 
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It just sounds like people are looking for a reason to put a downer on it.
it performs at MBA levels, is lighter, with a better keyboard and the screen is a world apart, whats not to like? (apart from the gold coloured one :))

I do agree, some people and thats a very few people do need ports, but simply most of us do not.
I travel all over the world with my rMBP and beyond a single thumb drive and a connection for the projector it don't and nor do i see other colleagues with lots of connections being in use at the same time. Hell following this logic i could moan about having to carry multiple thunderbolt connections (adding weight and mess) or the iPad with its single connector and lots of cables, or that i have to carry a crap load of batteries for the iPhone because of its piss poor battery life due to apples complete myopic and obsessive pursuit for thinness rather than longevity... I'd wager all the thunderbolt cables i carry take up as much room as a USB-C hub would and probably about the same weight again.

SDcard - to copy photos? not really something 99% of us do on the move and if they are they generally don't need power and a USB at the same time.

Just to be open, i don't have an rMB, i have an rMBP but don't get the port argument.
 
More likely.. 2 ports won't come ever. A single port on 12" rMB is a fundamental design choice, that won't change in future refreshes. If you can't live with 1 port - this is simply not a laptop for you.
LOL, I wouldnt be so sure.. People forget fast, macbook air was introduced with only one port and look at it now:) rMB will get another port, maybe next revision, maybe revC and then, all fanboys and apologists will praise apple for added ports as the best design decision ever:D
history repeats my friend:)
 
Why would you assume that two ports will come later down the track? Doesn't seem like they're headed that way at all for this machine. However, I doubt there's any likelihood at all they'd see value in culling ports from the Pro series, or the Air if it stays around for a while longer. I think we can quite likely expect an even more appealing 13" Pro some time soon which will almost inevitably be thinner, so for users who can't go without multiple ports, that's going to be model to go for.

so from now, if I need more than one usb port, I am a Pro?:D
 
LOL, I wouldnt be so sure.. People forget fast, macbook air was introduced with only one port and look at it now:) rMB will get another port, maybe next revision, maybe revC and then, all fanboys and apologists will praise apple for added ports as the best design decision ever:D
history repeats my friend:)

Not so fast... Sure the original MacBook only had one port. But it was a single USB port, and not even USB 3. It had nothing even close to the speed, flexibility or polyvalence of use that USB-C brings to the table. If the rMB's single port was a dead end like the slow USB 2 port on the original Air, then yes it would probably merit a rethink. Which is what they ended up doing with the Air, true enough. But USB-C has way, way more promise than a backward-looking single USB 2.0 port ever had - multiple high-speed devices allowing for all kinds of great docks and hubs, not just a trickle of power but enough juice to charge devices. It has excellent potential, no comparison to having to make do with one low speed USB.

It looks to me like a lot of people who like the rMB for what it is, but who have desires or needs to have flexible multi-connectivity in the mix are starting to come round to the idea of the many hubs which are either already available or those which are headed to the marketplace soon enough. Of course it's not for everyone, but the fact that USB-C offers this much potential means it's pretty shortsighted to compare it to the single USB 2 port the original MBA had...
 
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Plenty of people use SD card readers, USB thumb drives, ethernet cables, VGA projectors (especially those who desire an ultraportable), etc.
No Apple Laptop has VGA output, and not many PCs either. So, for any laptop you need dongles.
 
Business notebooks still come with VGA but it is shrinking. There are also other ways of connecting to a projector (HDMI, AirPlay, WiDi, etc.) or even a different way of doing presentations (use a screen/tv like the Ctouch ones or something like Clickshare).

The main thing people who go "yes but there are many who still use <insert accessory>" are forgetting is that their reasoning is reversible: "yes but there are many who DON'T use <insert accessory> any longer". Some people use item A, some don't. It is that simple. Just because you use it doesn't mean everybody does too!
 
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Ports: Am in the field now with both Retina MacBook & 13" Retina MacBook Pro, the port usage is not a big deal, equally I would prefer the MacBook had two USB C ports, this way you would not need to disrupt the charger or need to use the bulkier Apple adaptor. At home it would be a non issue as you can basically "dock" the rMB. Am looking at a better solution for when I am in the field, as Apple`s adaptor (USB C, USB A, HDMI) has a very short line and it`s fairly inflexible

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Yeah, that was one of the things I gave them feedback on when they sent me the survey about my experiences with the new Macbook. They had the opportunity with that adapter to make it so much better for so little extra effort. If they had just made the cable removable, included a nice short one with it, but allowed you to connect whatever length you wanted, and better yet, made the short one wrap securely around it for storage, it could have been a much better adapter. The length really kills the aesthetic and is kind of a pain in many situations.
 
I've had a 15" 1st gen MBP, 1st gen 13" MBA, 2nd gen 13" MBP, 2nd gen 13" MBA, 15" rMBP, 11" MBA ,13" rMBP and recently got a 12" rMB, in that order.
Most recent ones all maxed out models spec-wise, with the exception of my new rMB, as I thought I'd end up wardrobing it for a couple of weeks and then return it.

After testing it for some time though, I completely changed my mind. It was the ultra-portable Mac experience I always wanted, which never quite got delivered with the 11" MBA.

Being always on the go, I really wanted to like the 11" MBA, but in my experience, though small, it still weighted more than I would have liked, the screen resolution out of 2006 made my eyes cringe constantly, the enormous bezels were unsightly at best, and the very small trackpad constrained.
The 16:9 aspect ration wasn't that great either, with extremely little vertical screen real estate.

All those things put together, made it a real step back in terms of productivity, from the 15" rMBP I was using at the time.

So I compromised in portability, and got a 13" rMBP a couple of months later, which was the best of both worlds, though heavier and bulkier than I would have liked.

The 12" rMB, on the other hand, is everything I have ever wished for in a portable computer, and more. The keyboard, despite what most say, is the fastest and most tactile Macbook keyboard I've typed on, and after 48 hours of getting it, I was already typing faster than on my rMBP.
Granted though I have been touch-typing for years, and on a desktop keyboard with good switches, I average in the low 100s WPM.

The touchpad is also full size, in contrast with the 11" MBA, which makes a huge difference in productivity, for someone like me who uses lots of gestures. Force touch is really nifty too! Now that I've gotten used to it, the old touchpad feels dull in comparison.

As for the speaker, I was really blown away. It delivers 15" rMBP-like performance, perhaps even slightly better and louder. Sure, there isn't much bass to talk about, but that's to be expected with a speaker module so small. Still quite the engineering marvel considered the size.

Finally, I also really enjoy that they went with USB-C, I love being able to connect power,mouse,keyboard,ethernet,external drives and so forth with just a single cable. It's a brilliant machine for docking.
Sure, you'll have to get some adapters, new flashdrives and cables, but then again that's gonna be the case anyway for everyone a few years from now, so might as well get started on early.
And while I agree that having had two C ports would have been useful, having just one is not a deal braker by any means.

I was also really worried by the Core M, coming from an i7, and hearing what all the reviewers said, but in my experience it's been optimized so well, that I am almost never reminded of being on a mobile processor.
Even running 2 VMs on VMware works smoothly as butter, whilst also having plenty of other apps open on other desktops.
Lightroom with 24mb Raw files in batches is somewhat slower than on my rMBP, but still workable.
Driving a 4K display at 30Hz is perfectly doable, though 30Hz may be a bit low for some uses.
60FPS 1080p video playback works without any issues at all.
30FPS 4K video playback slows it down a bit, but it can still play smoothly enough depending on the compression/bitrate/codec.

If I really have to do some heavy lifting work, I just fire up SSH or VNC, and connect to my 24 Core Xeon server with 96GB of RAM and PCIe SSD storage, and get done with it in a few minutes. But that's what I would have done anyway even with the maxed out rMBP 15", so no change there really.

As a side note, like other reviews have mentioned, I also really like that it can be charged off a standard external power bank with high-enough amps.
This is really a game changer for the frequent travelers and always on-the-go people as though external batteries for the older Macs were also available, they weighted tons, costed hundreds of dollars, and worked sub-optimally.
With this, it can now effectively be run off-the-grid for days with a decent power bank.

So all in all, best portable machine I have ever had among all the Macs I've owned over the last 10 years. All I wished for on a true-ulraportable machine. Sure, it has its limits processing-power wise, but for me the pros far outweigh the cons, and I am yet to find anything that doesn't run as smoothly as on my rMBP for every-day usage. Granted though, I don't do much resource-intensive work locally.

My rMBP 13" is now up for sale. Though I have always gone back and forth between powerful and portable laptops with every new one, I think that technology has come such a way, that I will only get the portable ones onwards.


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Awesome Mac, best I have ever had, bar none, compared to all portable Macs I have had since 2006.
All I ever wished for in a portable machine. Less powerful on paper, but perfectly fine for my every day use.

So light and thin I have to physically open my backpack/briefcase and look to check if I have it with me before leaving. A joy to carry around. Dream docking-machine connecting all peripherals with a single cable.

Love being able to charge it off a power bank, meaning that it can effectively be taken off-the-grid for days with any decent one.

One quick question, did you end up returning your macbook and get the CTO one from Apple? Or you're so happy with it you end up keeping the nonCTO unit and use it.
 
Yeah, that was one of the things I gave them feedback on when they sent me the survey about my experiences with the new Macbook. They had the opportunity with that adapter to make it so much better for so little extra effort. If they had just made the cable removable, included a nice short one with it, but allowed you to connect whatever length you wanted, and better yet, made the short one wrap securely around it for storage, it could have been a much better adapter. The length really kills the aesthetic and is kind of a pain in many situations.

Same, a removable cable would have made a lot more sense so you can get it out of the way if needs be

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It just sounds like people are looking for a reason to put a downer on it.
it performs at MBA levels, is lighter, with a better keyboard and the screen is a world apart, whats not to like? (apart from the gold coloured one :))

Except it DOESN'T perform at MBA levels (CPU is far weaker, it throttles a lot, the GPU is weaker), gets quite hot with the passive cooling (silent though which is a plus - as with the CPU being weak, it's a trade-off). An MBA from a few years back, sure. But not a current model. Sure, maybe it feels snappy if you're doing basic stuff, but do something like a batch iPhoto export, transcode a video file, etc. and the MBA will slaughter it. But thats fine, you're dealing with a much smaller device - it's a trade-off. Just don't sell it as MBA performance, because it's simply not.

Agreed the screen is nice. Haven't used the keyboard yet. My ex got cramps a bit from it for a while, i suspect she was hitting the keys a bit too hard being used to the long travel. She's a very quick typist.

I do agree, some people and thats a very few people do need ports, but simply most of us do not.
I travel all over the world with my rMBP and beyond a single thumb drive and a connection for the projector it don't and nor do i see other colleagues with lots of connections being in use at the same time. Hell following this logic i could moan about having to carry multiple thunderbolt connections (adding weight and mess) or the iPad with its single connector and lots of cables, or that i have to carry a crap load of batteries for the iPhone because of its piss poor battery life due to apples complete myopic and obsessive pursuit for thinness rather than longevity... I'd wager all the thunderbolt cables i carry take up as much room as a USB-C hub would and probably about the same weight again.

SDcard - to copy photos? not really something 99% of us do on the move and if they are they generally don't need power and a USB at the same time.

Just to be open, i don't have an rMB, i have an rMBP but don't get the port argument.

The lack of ports isn't an issue 95% of the time. Except when you need the port(s) and then it's a total pain in the ass. Someone gives you a thumb drive to copy something - oh i need a dongle. Want to do a meeting with the projector? Oh, i need a dongle. Oh, i hope my macbook has enough charge! Because I can't charge and drive the projector at the same time!

SD card readers are nice for things like Go-Pros or cameras that don't have USB3 on them (like, anything you likely own unless you bought it very recently). It simply transfers WAY quicker using the reader than via cable into the camera.

It really depends on your use case - for many people it's a non-issue. For others, it is.

No Apple Laptop has VGA output, and not many PCs either. So, for any laptop you need dongles.

Yes, but with the other MacBooks you can charge at the same time. The battery life on the Macbook (According to my ex, who sold her old Air for it after going via a 13" classic Pro) is not great - at least not for what she does. Maybe 4-6 hours. The air was way better, and can drive a display and charge at the same time. If projectors are something you use to run meetings via your machine - the rMB is going to be occasionally a pain. You'll need to be sure you have a good charge beforehand.



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Don't get me wrong here, i'm not trying to totally dump on the rMB. I think it's a neat little machine. I seriously considered buying one. And I personally think the Air is currently a bit pointless unless you just want something cheap (just spend a little more to get a retina 13").

....Unless you're in that niche of users who want an ultraportable, but also want to be able to plug into things. Because having to choose between charging OR plugging into something, if you plan on say, driving a display for extended periods is just going to suck.

And I"m sure a LOT of MBA users (and ultraportable users in general) do that. They take their machine to a client's site, plug into a projector and run a presentation. Then move onto the next client, as part of their day. Not being able to charge whilst doing so could be a problem.


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and yes, the rMB will get a second port, guaranteed. For the reasons above - for some uses like the above, 1 port is a deal breaker. You need to be able to charge while plugged into something. I suspect the headphone jack will be sacrificed and you'll be pushed to using bluetooth. Probably some $100 beats headphones. lol.
 
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And I"m sure a LOT of MBA users (and ultraportable users in general) do that. They take their machine to a client's site, plug into a projector and run a presentation. Then move onto the next client, as part of their day. Not being able to charge whilst doing so could be a problem.

And your point is? The ONLY adapter available to do this for the MacBook includes a power pass-through so what you say is demonstrably not true. And a MBA will need an adapter as well!
 
Except it DOESN'T perform at MBA levels (CPU is far weaker, it throttles a lot, the GPU is weaker), gets quite hot with the passive cooling (silent though which is a plus - as with the CPU being weak, it's a trade-off). An MBA from a few years back, sure. But not a current model. Sure, maybe it feels snappy if you're doing basic stuff, but do something like a batch iPhoto export, transcode a video file, etc. and the MBA will slaughter it. But thats fine, you're dealing with a much smaller device - it's a trade-off. Just don't sell it as MBA performance, because it's simply not.

The 1.1Ghz 5Y31 out performs the i5-2476M in the 2011 MBA and is very close to the 2013 1.3Ghz i5-4250U MBA
The 1.2Ghz 5Y51 out performs the 2013 1.3Ghz i5-4250U MBA and is on par with the 2014 1.4Ghz i5-4260U MBA

So, yes, i would say its on par with the MBA - last years model.. not a few years ago.
If you want performance you would buy a MBP.
 
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I still don't understand why it only has 1... I hope Apple tells us, or someone finds out... Mind bugging that they didn't think it would piss others off....... I REALLY want this laptop.. But I simply can't do it.. And the 2 ports won't come for at least another year. No way Apple will re-design the next macbook to add a port. Next one will just be a speed bump and probably price reduction. But I wanted to love that laptop. Such awesomeness. I guess a 15 inch pro and ill just keep my air for when i need to travel.

You're forgetting your history. When Apple first introduced the Aluminum MacBook, they removed the Firewire port. There was such an outcry that in less than a year there was a brand new 13" category of MacBook Pro, which included the Firewire port, and the polycarbonate MacBook was returned to the lineup with the Firewire port.

Apple is already asking about the importance of the 1/8" mini-phone jack to users in their surveys, which suggests to me if enough users are going wireless, or don't use the port, they would logically replace it with a second USB-C port. If enough people are complaining about the lack of ports, that alone might force an early redesign, just like removing Firewire. Apple is surely eying the demise of the MBA, which only adds to their overhead at this point. Adding the rMB expanded their product line to 5, with a device that performs very similarly to the two MBAs and that's a bit of a problem since it undoubtably cannibalizes from the MBAs, and iPads. So I sense a decisive move by Apple in the near future.
 
So I sense a decisive move by Apple in the near future.

I sense the introduction of a 14" rMB with 2 USB-C ports on it, much like the current 13" Air has the additional SD reader over the 11". I think this first rMB is a test case by Apple and we'll see a 14" model next year with Skylake. What'll be interesting to see is how soon the Air is discontinued. I would guess the Air might get a Skylake upgrade at most; if not, it'll probably hang around in the inventory without any upgrades for another year or so tops. Given Apple's history of allowing new models to cannibalize sales of old ones, the rMB is the future, not a "retina Air".
 
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Different Q: does anyone here use the rMB as their ONLY Mac? If not, what else do you use, such as an iMac or a Mac Pro? Personally, I do not see why anyone would use a rMB as their only Mac that they possess.
 
Different Q: does anyone here use the rMB as their ONLY Mac? If not, what else do you use, such as an iMac or a Mac Pro? Personally, I do not see why anyone would use a rMB as their only Mac that they possess.

Yes I only use the rMB as my only Mac.
 
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!! Sorry, this was supposed to be in another thread. !!

"Oh just use a USB-C hub!" = another box to carry about. Somewhat defeating the purpose of a 1kg machine."

Hm, so let's say that we have MacBook Pro with all those great ports and on the other hand we've got MacBook Retina with the original adapter from Apple (small and light). But we're missing something, don't we? CABLES. You'll have to carry HDMI,ThunderBolt (adapter), USB cables as well. So how this somewhat doesn't defeating the purpose of the portable computer? And don't tell me that you are counting on people that they will have spare cables. The new MacBook is ultra portable computer for some tasks. I've read many reviews and it seems that new MacBook is powerful than you think. If you are a graphic designer or any other person who needs heavier computing you'll probably buy MacBook Pro ( but I've read that some people even use it for some graphic designing without any problem ) and for us others there is a great ultra portable, light and thin MacBook:) By the way I have never used an SD card slot for transffering photos from my EOS camera.
 
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One quick question, did you end up returning your macbook and get the CTO one from Apple? Or you're so happy with it you end up keeping the nonCTO unit and use it.
Nope, I ended up keeping the base config, and though the return window is still up due to my store's liberal return policies, I really don't see any reason to bring it back, as it excels in everything I've thrown at it so far.

Different Q: does anyone here use the rMB as their ONLY Mac? If not, what else do you use, such as an iMac or a Mac Pro? Personally, I do not see why anyone would use a rMB as their only Mac that they possess.

Currently, I am too using it as my only Mac.
I am liking it so much, that I am even considering selling my desktop beast, as I haven't really needed that much raw power anyways, as well as my dekstop at work, and getting two ultra-wide displays with docking stations, so that I can just plug and unplug it when coming home or going to work.
 
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