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iPad 13.2 Bad background App behavior
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I tired chrome. Same behavior. They must use the same WebKit engine as safari. Hopefully a fix on Monday.
Thank you, very good to know. I was contemplating moving everything over to Chrome or Firefox temporarily but it sounds as if that wouldn’t resolve the issue. Thank you.. you saved me some time.
Yeah, it sounds as if it’s something common to both browsers. I hope it’s fixed soon. I can work around the issues, but it’s annoying.
iOS 13.2 is being overly aggressive with the handling of almost all background activity. For instance, yesterday I did a search in the Amazon app, switched to Safari for less than a minute and when I returned to Amazon it refreshed and the search was gone.
This should be fixed in the next update, hopefully before long, there are still quite a list of issues to be fixed in iOS 13.
This should be fixed in the next update, hopefully before long, there are still quite a list of issues to be fixed in iOS 13.
I think the article and 500 comments speak for themselves https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/31/ios-13-2-safari-refreshing-poor-ram-management/
Exactly the same on my iPad Air 2. I just tried now:
- Opened 2 tabs in Safari (GSMArena and Phonearena), got into an article in each and left each in an article page
- Opened Twitter, browsed a few Tweets and watched a video for just under 1 minute
- Go back to Safari and both tabs are reloading
Sometimes just 1 tab reloads, if I add another app, Safari will reload but Twitter will be fine for a little while before also reloading a few minutes later when I go back again.
Incredibly annoying, this is more understandable behavior on my iPad Air 2 which is a 5 year old device this year, but an iPad Air 3 which has 3GB RAM should barely if ever need to aggressively close apps unless you have 3-4 heavy games going or something.
I’d definitely agree to a point, there’s no defending Apple on this one, it’s been an incredibly messy release that most certainly shouldn’t have been released in the state it was - and still is to some degree.
But I don’t think it’s the worst OS ever, iOS 13 itself is a nice update, with some much needed improvements. It’s simply the reliability factor I take umbrage with.
The improvements don’t outweigh the issues. The fact that I have ZERO multitasking and don’t have a workable email app this long after the release is complete BS. I’m using a $1500 phone that doesn’t have basic email capability and can’t keep apps open in the background.
Takes pretty pictures though....
And that’s the problem and why I believe a public apology is warranted. When MobileMe debuted there were a lot of new features and valuable improvements but major issues in the initial rollout. And Steve Jobs issued a public apology. To buy such expensive devices currently and have to deal with issues that should have never been in a release version of software is unacceptable. Yes, there are very nice features in 13 overall, but at the same time this is the worst release ever. I had the very first iPhone, the very first iPad, and virtually every one since then as well as every software to go along with them. I’ve never seen anything like this. It’s especially fun to watch my ipad screen rotate 180 degrees as I’m typing this. That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy. And it’s not just ios. Catalina is killing my MacBook Pro battery, Mail requires two clicks to get the window to open on the desktop. Those are fairly minor and I can deal with them. But from one end to the other this is a public embarrassment.
Yeah I knew better than to upgrade to Catalina. My faith in Apple’s software team for both iOS and MacOS is at an all time low and I knew Catalina would be a dumpster fire out of the gate.
I’m so enmeshed in Apple devices and integrated services that it would require an extreme effort and major inconvenience to switch to other systems and devices. And I don’t actually hear glowing praise about Android devices. But this software has me running through possible options in my mind. If they get this right, I’m good, but if this is an indication of what’s to come then exploring those other options is warranted.
What I find most bizarre about all of this, and you’re right, it is unacceptable for a company with Apple’s resources to have put out software in such a state. What really baffles me though, is how very varied the issues are.
I mean, the hardware we all have, iPhones, iPads and to a degree Macs as well, is identical. My iPad and iPhone are no different to yours or anyone else’s. Yet I don’t have email problems, or this iPad screen rotation issue, or quite a lot of the other problems we read about here.
In fact, I have exactly two problems which are annoying me. The ridiculous over active memory management problem - which is my biggest annoyance. And an issue with data if I enable VoLTE, it shouldn’t happen, but at least that’s an easy workaround.
I find it completely baffling then how someone else, with identical hardware, has such wildly different experiences. Just what the hell is going on under the hood to cause this. I mean, back in my engineering days, I never encountered anything like this. Identical hardware should, by and large, have identical issues. There has to be a variation in the hardware, different memory, or other chip suppliers to cause this. If so, they should all be working to the same damn spec to prevent this kind of thing.
Of course we all use different software on our devices, but with the sandboxed nature of iOS, by and large means that shouldn’t be a factor in how the OS operates.
I’ll stop now, or I’ll end up ranting on for ages.
Yes, the sandboxed nature of iOS/iPadOS means 3rd-party apps shouldn’t be a problem. However, I am still suspicious that it is either a bug which allows 3rd-party software to cause problems or iCloud is causing some of these problems.. or a combination of the two.
I can tell you of an iCloud issue that was fixed in iOS 13.x. It used to be that resetting an iPhone to factory settings and then restoring from a backup brought back all of the email addresses that were previously removed from recents prior to the restore. This is no longer the case with iOS 13.x, so that issue was fixed.. which means there have been changes to iCloud itself. Some of those changes could be causing the issues we’re seeing, particularly with the Mail.app.
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Complaints Mounting About iOS 13.2 Being 'More Aggressive at Killing Background Apps and Tasks'
A growing number of iPhone and iPad users have complained about poor RAM management on iOS 13 and iPadOS 13, leading to apps like Safari, YouTube, and Overcast reloading more frequently upon being reopened. We've lightly edited some of the comments to correct things like capitalization...
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