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It’s true 13.2 is much worse keeping apps and services running in background. ´Frustrating. Hope update fix soon. hope this isn’t intended from Apple
 
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The only app that I’m getting bad background from is the email app
 

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MBX

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I‘m talking specifically about iPadOS 13.2 though
 
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It’s true 13.2 is much worse keeping apps and services running in background. ´Frustrating. Hope update fix soon. hope this isn’t intended from Apple

There was a front page article several days ago
 

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Safari on iPad Air 3 with iPadOS 13.2 continues to refresh all tabs when switching away from Safari and back again. This basically removes the ability to efficiently multitask with Safari. I wonder if the same bug shows up in Chrome and Firefox.
 
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Safari on iPad Air 3 with iPadOS 13.2 continues to refresh all tabs when switching away from Safari and back again. This basically removes the ability to efficiently multitask with Safari. I wonder if the same bug shows up in Chrome and Firefox.
I tired chrome. Same behavior. They must use the same WebKit engine as safari. Hopefully a fix on Monday.
 
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I tired chrome. Same behavior. They must use the same WebKit engine as safari. Hopefully a fix on Monday.
Thank you, very good to know. I was contemplating moving everything over to Chrome or Firefox temporarily but it sounds as if that wouldn’t resolve the issue. Thank you.. you saved me some time.

Yeah, it sounds as if it’s something common to both browsers. I hope it’s fixed soon. I can work around the issues, but it’s annoying.
 

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it's not just browsers. I see the same behavior in some game apps. Leave for a second to check a message or notification, come back and you're back on the original launch screen of the game and have to navigate back.
 
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iOS 13.2 is being overly aggressive with the handling of almost all background activity. For instance, yesterday I did a search in the Amazon app, switched to Safari for less than a minute and when I returned to Amazon it refreshed and the search was gone.

This should be fixed in the next update, hopefully before long, there are still quite a list of issues to be fixed in iOS 13.
 
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Safari on iPad Air 3 with iPadOS 13.2 continues to refresh all tabs when switching away from Safari and back again. This basically removes the ability to efficiently multitask with Safari. I wonder if the same bug shows up in Chrome and Firefox.

Exactly the same on my iPad Air 2. I just tried now:

- Opened 2 tabs in Safari (GSMArena and Phonearena), got into an article in each and left each in an article page
- Opened Twitter, browsed a few Tweets and watched a video for just under 1 minute
- Go back to Safari and both tabs are reloading

Sometimes just 1 tab reloads, if I add another app, Safari will reload but Twitter will be fine for a little while before also reloading a few minutes later when I go back again.


Incredibly annoying, this is more understandable behavior on my iPad Air 2 which is a 5 year old device this year, but an iPad Air 3 which has 3GB RAM should barely if ever need to aggressively close apps unless you have 3-4 heavy games going or something.
 

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13.2 is a joke. It’s absolutely unacceptable that Apple, after all of these updates can’t get iOS13 right. They should be embarrassed by how bad this OS is. There is no disputing that this is the worst OS they have ever released.
 

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13.2 is a joke. It’s absolutely unacceptable that Apple, after all of these updates can’t get iOS13 right. They should be embarrassed by how bad this OS is. There is no disputing that this is the worst OS they have ever released.

I’d definitely agree to a point, there’s no defending Apple on this one, it’s been an incredibly messy release that most certainly shouldn’t have been released in the state it was - and still is to some degree.

But I don’t think it’s the worst OS ever, iOS 13 itself is a nice update, with some much needed improvements. It’s simply the reliability factor I take umbrage with.
 
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I’d definitely agree to a point, there’s no defending Apple on this one, it’s been an incredibly messy release that most certainly shouldn’t have been released in the state it was - and still is to some degree.

But I don’t think it’s the worst OS ever, iOS 13 itself is a nice update, with some much needed improvements. It’s simply the reliability factor I take umbrage with.

The improvements don’t outweigh the issues. The fact that I have ZERO multitasking and don’t have a workable email app this long after the release is complete BS. I’m using a $1500 phone that doesn’t have basic email capability and can’t keep apps open in the background.

Takes pretty pictures though....
 

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I’m using a $1500 phone

Takes pretty pictures though....
And that’s the problem and why I believe a public apology is warranted. When MobileMe debuted there were a lot of new features and valuable improvements but major issues in the initial rollout. And Steve Jobs issued a public apology. To buy such expensive devices currently and have to deal with issues that should have never been in a release version of software is unacceptable. Yes, there are very nice features in 13 overall, but at the same time this is the worst release ever. I had the very first iPhone, the very first iPad, and virtually every one since then as well as every software to go along with them. I’ve never seen anything like this. It’s especially fun to watch my ipad screen rotate 180 degrees as I’m typing this. That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy. And it’s not just ios. Catalina is killing my MacBook Pro battery, Mail requires two clicks to get the window to open on the desktop. Those are fairly minor and I can deal with them. But from one end to the other this is a public embarrassment.
 

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And that’s the problem and why I believe a public apology is warranted. When MobileMe debuted there were a lot of new features and valuable improvements but major issues in the initial rollout. And Steve Jobs issued a public apology. To buy such expensive devices currently and have to deal with issues that should have never been in a release version of software is unacceptable. Yes, there are very nice features in 13 overall, but at the same time this is the worst release ever. I had the very first iPhone, the very first iPad, and virtually every one since then as well as every software to go along with them. I’ve never seen anything like this. It’s especially fun to watch my ipad screen rotate 180 degrees as I’m typing this. That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy. And it’s not just ios. Catalina is killing my MacBook Pro battery, Mail requires two clicks to get the window to open on the desktop. Those are fairly minor and I can deal with them. But from one end to the other this is a public embarrassment.

Yeah I knew better than to upgrade to Catalina. My faith in Apple’s software team for both iOS and MacOS is at an all time low and I knew Catalina would be a dumpster fire out of the gate.
 

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I’m so enmeshed in Apple devices and integrated services that it would require an extreme effort and major inconvenience to switch to other systems and devices. And I don’t actually hear glowing praise about Android devices. But this software has me running through possible options in my mind. If they get this right, I’m good, but if this is an indication of what’s to come then exploring those other options is warranted.
 
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And that’s the problem and why I believe a public apology is warranted. When MobileMe debuted there were a lot of new features and valuable improvements but major issues in the initial rollout. And Steve Jobs issued a public apology. To buy such expensive devices currently and have to deal with issues that should have never been in a release version of software is unacceptable. Yes, there are very nice features in 13 overall, but at the same time this is the worst release ever. I had the very first iPhone, the very first iPad, and virtually every one since then as well as every software to go along with them. I’ve never seen anything like this. It’s especially fun to watch my ipad screen rotate 180 degrees as I’m typing this. That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy. And it’s not just ios. Catalina is killing my MacBook Pro battery, Mail requires two clicks to get the window to open on the desktop. Those are fairly minor and I can deal with them. But from one end to the other this is a public embarrassment.

What I find most bizarre about all of this, and you’re right, it is unacceptable for a company with Apple’s resources to have put out software in such a state. What really baffles me though, is how very varied the issues are.

I mean, the hardware we all have, iPhones, iPads and to a degree Macs as well, is identical. My iPad and iPhone are no different to yours or anyone else’s. Yet I don’t have email problems, or this iPad screen rotation issue, or quite a lot of the other problems we read about here.

In fact, I have exactly two problems which are annoying me. The ridiculous over active memory management problem - which is my biggest annoyance. And an issue with data if I enable VoLTE, it shouldn’t happen, but at least that’s an easy workaround.

I find it completely baffling then how someone else, with identical hardware, has such wildly different experiences. Just what the hell is going on under the hood to cause this. I mean, back in my engineering days, I never encountered anything like this. Identical hardware should, by and large, have identical issues. There has to be a variation in the hardware, different memory, or other chip suppliers to cause this. If so, they should all be working to the same damn spec to prevent this kind of thing.

Of course we all use different software on our devices, but with the sandboxed nature of iOS, by and large means that shouldn’t be a factor in how the OS operates.

I’ll stop now, or I’ll end up ranting on for ages.
 

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What I find most bizarre about all of this, and you’re right, it is unacceptable for a company with Apple’s resources to have put out software in such a state. What really baffles me though, is how very varied the issues are.

I mean, the hardware we all have, iPhones, iPads and to a degree Macs as well, is identical. My iPad and iPhone are no different to yours or anyone else’s. Yet I don’t have email problems, or this iPad screen rotation issue, or quite a lot of the other problems we read about here.

In fact, I have exactly two problems which are annoying me. The ridiculous over active memory management problem - which is my biggest annoyance. And an issue with data if I enable VoLTE, it shouldn’t happen, but at least that’s an easy workaround.

I find it completely baffling then how someone else, with identical hardware, has such wildly different experiences. Just what the hell is going on under the hood to cause this. I mean, back in my engineering days, I never encountered anything like this. Identical hardware should, by and large, have identical issues. There has to be a variation in the hardware, different memory, or other chip suppliers to cause this. If so, they should all be working to the same damn spec to prevent this kind of thing.

Of course we all use different software on our devices, but with the sandboxed nature of iOS, by and large means that shouldn’t be a factor in how the OS operates.

I’ll stop now, or I’ll end up ranting on for ages.
Yes, the sandboxed nature of iOS/iPadOS means 3rd-party apps shouldn’t be a problem. However, I am still suspicious that it is either a bug which allows 3rd-party software to cause problems or iCloud is causing some of these problems.. or a combination of the two.

I can tell you of an iCloud issue that was fixed in iOS 13.x. It used to be that resetting an iPhone to factory settings and then restoring from a backup brought back all of the email addresses that were previously removed from recents prior to the restore. This is no longer the case with iOS 13.x, so that issue was fixed.. which means there have been changes to iCloud itself. Some of those changes could be causing the issues we’re seeing, particularly with the Mail.app.
 

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