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13-Inch MacBook Pro With M2 Chip Outperforms Base Model Mac Pro Despite Costing Nearly $5,000 Less
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A lot has changed in 3 years! Where will things be in 2025? 🤔
so you are price sensitive, not an mac pro issue
Understood
Apple has just announced the Mac Pro will no longer support overlapping windows in Mac OS due to the system's inability to be "instantaneously responsive".
Number of people who ever said Xeon's were good values: 0
Setting aside that the Mac Pro has a high price margin, and the idea that Apple needs to pay Intel for the processors they use, I think this puts a real interesting perspective on the Mac Pro roundtable they had a few years ago and the whole behind the scenes planning for Apple's silicon. Surely they knew when they started designing the Mac Pro that they had M-chips in the pipeline that would be much better soon, but they made it anyway because the customers demanded it and the M-level chips wouldn't be ready in time to solve the immediate need.
At the time, many of us believed Apple was abandoning the pro side of the market- see the long delays between pro computers, the drop off of most of Apple's pro software, the removal of all the ports in the MacBook pros, etc. I wonder how much of that was thinking "lets not push on the pro side since we have the M-series chips coming" versus a real move to avoid the pro end of things. I suspect it was a little of both. Maybe the M-series was delayed (imagine they came out in 2017 before we all got too frustrated with the then-current conditions). I sure hope we get a tell-all book about this period of Apple's history some day.
is it a joke, or are the Xeon's that cost so much the joke?
What's weird is the 13 MBP is still in the line up.
I assume they have some laptop cases / screens lying around still to sell.
I assume they have some laptop cases / screens lying around still to sell.
Computers don't age well. My laptop kills a supercomputer from 15 years ago 
We had this before with only the M1, this novelty of comparing one aspect of a Mac Pro base config to the M2 MBA is fun, but not saying everything is faster. Remember this Max Tech video?
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Some things will be where they are now, other stuff will be somewhere else
Well I mean Apple charges $2000 for an afterburner card for the Meme Pro, when for the same price you can get a base spec 14 inch M1 Pro MBP that has a media engine that does the same job as the afterburner card. And the same media engine in that laptop (while on battery power mind you) exports miles faster than the afterburner card does, effectively turning it into retroware after the span of two years.
So yeah, the Meme Pro is a joke lmao. There's no reason to buy it anymore when the Mac Studio at 1/3 the cost outperforms it in every conceivable way. This is why there's so much hype for the Apple Silicon Mac Pro, so this overpriced joke can finally be gone.
Meh, its ok for people to have wrong opinions.
I love mine, upgraded easily to 28 cores and enjoy all 56 threads, 384 gb of memory that I can upgrade to 1.5tb, plenty of PCIe x16 slots so my NVMe RAID cards run unencumbered, and the dual 10gb NIC has been the cherry on top.
I get it, your iPod Touch from 2009 would run circles around anything with a "Craptel" processor and that no one really needs more than whatever memory I have or that two M2 cores is valued at 4096 Intel threads, but I don't care. I'll start caring when/if Apple releases a PowerMac G6 on Apple Silicon, or whatever they are going to call it, and if it has expandability, even at a price.
I love mine, upgraded easily to 28 cores and enjoy all 56 threads, 384 gb of memory that I can upgrade to 1.5tb, plenty of PCIe x16 slots so my NVMe RAID cards run unencumbered, and the dual 10gb NIC has been the cherry on top.
I get it, your iPod Touch from 2009 would run circles around anything with a "Craptel" processor and that no one really needs more than whatever memory I have or that two M2 cores is valued at 4096 Intel threads, but I don't care. I'll start caring when/if Apple releases a PowerMac G6 on Apple Silicon, or whatever they are going to call it, and if it has expandability, even at a price.
There’s more to computers than just raw power. The newest Mac Pro has always been a device that you buy if you know you need it. If you can’t figure out a reason to buy it, then you don’t need it. Processors are all pretty speedy today, for pros and companies it’s often more about other issues, such as the type of software being used, memory needs, expansion, etc.
That is sad.Computers don't age well. My laptop kills a supercomputer from 15 years ago
Well if you're job is geekbench benchmarks then yes... If you live in the real world you realize the headline and whole article is clickbait 🤣
Well I'm ready for the M2Max based Mac Pro.
And I'm ready for it to be expandable.
And I want it encrusted in diamonds and signed by damien hirst.
And I'm ready for it to be expandable.
And I want it encrusted in diamonds and signed by damien hirst.
Heck, my iPhone today has more computing power than the first 5000 years of human recorded history!
Indeed. In my opinion, all of Adobe’s apps need rebuilding from scratch instead of piling new features on top of old code. CC apps are so heavy even on very capable machines like yours as you say.
How many slots does the MacBook have? Can't wait to put in a second hard drive.
For long tasks, could be. The MBP has a fan and won't throttle like the MBA does.
Wow... I feel... kinda bad for Intel. 😳 Oof.
Uh, no. They have a problem of being unable to produce updates to niche products as fast as popular ones.