Too expensive. I don't see the point of spending that much money on a 13" laptop, especially if you spend a decent majority of your time using it while plugged into an external monitor. I don't know, I guess I just don't get the whole retina display thing. The only way I'd have one is if their entire macbook line had them and I didn't really have a choice. I'll wait until the 'classic' macbook pros are phased out and all macbook pros look like this.
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13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Pricing to Start at Roughly $1699
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Son at college uses a MacBook Air, in this configuration.
2.0GHz Intel Dual-Core Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
256GB Flash Storage
Cost was $1699. If a similarly configured MacBook Pro Retina were available last summer, he would likely be using that. They will sell plenty of these if that is the price.
2.0GHz Intel Dual-Core Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
256GB Flash Storage
Cost was $1699. If a similarly configured MacBook Pro Retina were available last summer, he would likely be using that. They will sell plenty of these if that is the price.
Yes it is.
To have dedicated graphics card on little baby 13" screen makes no sense. 13" Macbook is not for pros. And thus, it is priced great for the general public.
Thanks.
Why is it called a macbook pro then?
And this puppy will choke doing anything demanding
The rmbp 15" chokes with its discrete card, so this is a no-brainer.
I'm not quite sure what a "camera tech" is but a photographer might find that being able to show clients higher resolution images at the shoot is a win in itself, not to mention post processing advantages. Many photographers carry around iPad 3's for the same reason.
Is there a possibility that you are clueless about business?
People tend to have little knowledge about capitalism, but one of the tenants is investing to make money. For a photographer, investing in an rMBP is no different than investing in appropriate camera(s) and lenses to maximize income.
That would be a good price... But it will undoubtably be higher than $2000 here. More like $2500
Good question.
Amazing isn't it? It is scary to think that some of these commenters are old enough to vote.
Apparently they are.
Amazing isn't it? It is scary to think that some of these commenters are old enough to vote.
a year before (almost MBA updated) the cost of the SSD were very high, it is not the same ...
all the big name SSDs dropped a lot, Intel, Samsung, Crucial and will drop further once the new node process yields improves.
That time MBA and it priced made sense, not any more.
you can configure MBP 13" and you can add SSD, 16GB RAM and still have some change.
MBA more portable than MBP, that is the only difference.
Do you people even bother reading before posting? It says right below the pic it's the non-retina MBP.
Apparently playing with iToys for too long causes brain rot.
It depends upon the student.
Many want the optical for DVD viewing. Laugh if you want but DVDs will work everywhere the Mac will work if it has a DVD drive. You can't say that for WiFi and other networking choices.
Ethernet is another one of those things that depends upon the student, the courses engaged, and the colleges infrastructure. Ethernet can be so much faster that it can be seen as a requirement. Frankly I'm still reluctant to buy a laptop without it.
Many want the optical for DVD viewing. Laugh if you want but DVDs will work everywhere the Mac will work if it has a DVD drive. You can't say that for WiFi and other networking choices.
Ethernet is another one of those things that depends upon the student, the courses engaged, and the colleges infrastructure. Ethernet can be so much faster that it can be seen as a requirement. Frankly I'm still reluctant to buy a laptop without it.
I wouldn't buy one without an ethernet either.
Adapter or not. It is something that should be available.
Adapter I'm sure will cost $30-40 to have.
Rip movies at home using an external drive and put them on an SD card or the internal SSD. Saves battery power, too.
I require Ethernet too, but it's in the same location every day, so I'll buy a thunderbolt adapter and leave it connected to the ethernet cable.
Why is it that every time a new RUMOR comes out, people jump on stuff and complain without even knowing the facts since they aren't even rumored yet.
And do some of you even bother to think before you write? That means you, the dude who thought the "Add" said no SSD drive (hint: it's not an ad, it's a screen shot of the CURRENT 13" mbp models) and the guy who thinks Apple should subsidize laptops because they have a lot of money.
We really need the thumbs down button again.
And do some of you even bother to think before you write? That means you, the dude who thought the "Add" said no SSD drive (hint: it's not an ad, it's a screen shot of the CURRENT 13" mbp models) and the guy who thinks Apple should subsidize laptops because they have a lot of money.
We really need the thumbs down button again.
Not necessarily, because you can configure a 13" Macbook Air to be $1699 with these specs:
2.0GHz Dual-core i7
8GB ram
256GB SSD
No retina display, only one t-bolt port. And likely just marginally thinner/lighter than the rMBP 13.
All things considered, I bet the base 13" rMBP will actually be a better value than a maxed-out Air.
Where did it mention the type of storage? That screenshot is of the current macbook pro.
I agree about the GPU, but do note that the screenshot is of the current macbook.
And Retina display isn't an addition feature?
The people who see value in Retina will pay more and those that see no value in Retina will buy one of the other 13" models.
The markup is because
1. they can. ( MBA's sold at reasonable levels at these prices for over two years . This model will also. Thinking otherwise is highly suspect.)
2. At these lower price levels they can't command the highly skewed mark-ups that Apple uses to suppress fraticide/cannablism between the MBP 15" and rMBP 15.
My point was those comparisons using BTO SSD parts aren't relevant at all to component or functionality pricing. They are deception traps designed to both skim additional profits off of those who self-inflict themselves to inelastic pricing ( e.g.., must buy PCs fully configured from a single purchase order for whatever rationale ) and to guide users into choosing models along trends Apples wants them to over the longer term.
dGPU isn't a given. Again the MBA was rather under GPU horsepowered for at least a year or so. If Apple "goes thinner" like they did with the rMBP 15' then then a hefty portion of the space savings of dumping the ODD will going into making the device lighter ( as to compete with the MBA 13" rather than the MBP 13" ).
If Apple keeps the same thickness than a dGPU is possible but if they go thin and solder RAM to the motherboard then the freed up ODD space is going to disappear without adding much more electronics.
Quad core. Again an objective of a "very light , very thin , with best screen in the industry for this size" seems likely to be what Apple is targeting. "Quad core" is a unnecessary crotch grabbing exercise if this is a upgrade replacement for MBA. It given the MBP 13" is still around it isn't a replacement. Apple isn't trying to drive all MBP 13" users off that device. They are only looking to get a higher return off of the few that have more price elasticity (and can go higher for a 13" ) .
I think the Air complicates things a bit...I was doing some quick number crunching on high-spec'd build for the MBP 13, MBA 13, and the proposed rMBP 13 (Canadian pricing):
MBP 13: $1529 (2.9 Dual i7, 750GB, 8GB)
MBA 13: $2249 (2.0 Dual i7, 512SSD, 8GB)
rMBP 13: $2029 ($500 premium on MB 13)
So how does this make sense? Even if the premium is $700 you're still slightly cheaper than the Air. So I just don't get how these three product lines fit together. Apart from the thin form factor, why would you get the Air?
Maybe my numbers are way off.
The other thing, and I'm sure some have already mentioned it...wasn't the 15 rMBP found to be stretching its graphic capabilities to the max to power that screen? And that's with a discreet graphics option. How is the 13 rMPB going to cope with integrated graphics?
No one is going to want to buy an over $2K 13" computer just to check facebook...my current computer is a maxed out 13" from 4 years ago. I was using it as a light duty video editing machine and my primary graphic design machine. I desperately need a new 13" machine (I only use small notebooks) but I won't buy anything unless it's able to get my work done and last me another 4 years. If that means getting a regular MBP then so be it...
MBP 13: $1529 (2.9 Dual i7, 750GB, 8GB)
MBA 13: $2249 (2.0 Dual i7, 512SSD, 8GB)
rMBP 13: $2029 ($500 premium on MB 13)
So how does this make sense? Even if the premium is $700 you're still slightly cheaper than the Air. So I just don't get how these three product lines fit together. Apart from the thin form factor, why would you get the Air?
Maybe my numbers are way off.
The other thing, and I'm sure some have already mentioned it...wasn't the 15 rMBP found to be stretching its graphic capabilities to the max to power that screen? And that's with a discreet graphics option. How is the 13 rMPB going to cope with integrated graphics?
No one is going to want to buy an over $2K 13" computer just to check facebook...my current computer is a maxed out 13" from 4 years ago. I was using it as a light duty video editing machine and my primary graphic design machine. I desperately need a new 13" machine (I only use small notebooks) but I won't buy anything unless it's able to get my work done and last me another 4 years. If that means getting a regular MBP then so be it...
Umm... The 13" will have a lower pixel-count than the 15", so the Intel 4000 will have an *easier* time with it.
Retina display on my iPad: great. Retina display on my laptop: too pricey to justify right now.
