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I'll clear it up even better for you, then it's football time!!!

MBP's the fat ones apparently, 13 and 15 inch will be dropped next year and the Retina's should take their place. The 13" Air will be the replacement for the low end model, I do not count an 11 inch laptop for 1k. 1k goes a LONG way with normal vendors, for Apple you get an 11 inch with a 64GB SSD... yeah.

The line is thin but thats the way they like everything so there ya go.

Ah, your using your crystal ball, I see. Your also making a completely different point. I also think that eventually the Macbook Pro and the retina model may become one.
 
Ah, your using your crystal ball, I see. Your also making a completely different point. I also think that eventually the Macbook Pro and the retina model may become one.

Don't need a crystal ball. When the Retina models were introduced, they were introduced as the Next Generation MacBoook Pro. That means that the current MacBook Pro's will become the previous generation; i.e. they will be discontinued. Whether they get another update and stick around for most of next year or are dropped sooner than that remains to be seen, but I think it's a safe bet they won't be sold at all in 2014, except as refurb/clearance.

jW
 
Don't need a crystal ball. When the Retina models were introduced, they were introduced as the Next Generation MacBoook Pro. That means that the current MacBook Pro's will become the previous generation; i.e. they will be discontinued. Whether they get another update and stick around for most of next year or are dropped sooner than that remains to be seen, but I think it's a safe bet they won't be sold at all in 2014, except as refurb/clearance.

jW

It's still speculation, comparing the statement with reality. It's related to future events, which is why strictly speaking you need a crystal ball. I think that is especially true when giving a specific point in time such as "next year", like the previous poster did.
 
It's still speculation, comparing the statement with reality. It's related to future events, which is why strictly speaking you need a crystal ball. I think that is especially true when giving a specific point in time such as "next year", like the previous poster did.

Writing is on the wall for that, when I couldnt say 100% but I would be quite sure next year would be it. The put the Air at the same price point as the MBP 13". Predictable.
 
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The put the Air at the same price point as the MBP 13". Predictable.

Now that would be silly, traditionally prices has gone down. The air was introduced as a experimental model at a higher price than the Macbook Pro initially. If/when the regular Macbook Pro get's merged with the retinal model, it will probably be at a time when the retina model can be manufactured for the same roughly.
 
Now that would be silly, traditionally prices has gone down. The air was introduced as a experimental model at a higher price than the Macbook Pro initially. If/when the regular Macbook Pro get's merged with the retinal model, it will probably be at a time when the retina model can be manufactured for the same roughly.

We'll see. I am just putting my guess on the MBA, and rMBP's and that's it. 2015 just rMBP which basically takes mostly the form of the air all the way.
 
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Don't need a crystal ball. When the Retina models were introduced, they were introduced as the Next Generation MacBoook Pro. That means that the current MacBook Pro's will become the previous generation; i.e. they will be discontinued. Whether they get another update and stick around for most of next year or are dropped sooner than that remains to be seen, but I think it's a safe bet they won't be sold at all in 2014, except as refurb/clearance.

jW

Not to mention in 2010, when Apple introduced the new MacBook Air, they called it the future of MacBooks. The entire line-up is heading there, thin, no optical drive, solid state storage.

Crystal balls aren't required, Apple spelled it out.
 
Now why he's in a thread about the MBP if he's an iOS device user that's not really into Macs ? Same reason some Mac users hang out in iOS threads, to see what's going on and preach about their disdain for that particular product segment of Apple.
I am not terribly fond of Apple's portable device line up outside of the iPod Touch but I just exclude those forums in Forum Spy. Sometimes you get no posts anywhere but there in Forum Spy though. So lonely.
 
Depends on the specs, if it's got 8GB RAM and a 256GB SSD standard, that's not that bad, only a small premium over a similarly-specced Air.

I'm considering something a little smaller and lighter than my trusty old late-2008 15" Pro, and either a base 13" rMBP or specced up 13" Air would seem to fit the bill perfectly.
 
Do you have a link to substantiate this claim, or is this just made-up gut feel, based on your limited experience?

lol. Are you having a rough day? In an arguing mood? It doesn't take research to prove an obvious point. Go on any college campus, and you will see the majority of Mac's used by students are the 13" MBP.
 
I'm always amazed that people seem to think new products should IMMEDIATELY be introduced for the mass market at mass market price points (not saying you did TallManm this is a non-specific comment :D) and that supply can magically ramp to meet demand overnight. What we're seeing with the rMBP's is the future of Apple's laptop line a year or two earlier than you would if they'd waited to introduce them at every price point. That gives a purchase option to those that want and can afford one now, helps drive costs down over time, probably increases quality as issues in manufacturing are solved AND gives devs time to get used to the new tech. If it's too rich for your blood just wait a year or two for them to filter down.

Agreed. These retina laptops are clearly the laptops of the future. But they just might not quite be there yet. I've got a Macbook 2007 that is still chugging along. If it can make it through another year, then I think I will get the next generation retina laptop. But if it fails in the next six or so months, I will end up with an Air.
 
lol. Are you having a rough day? In an arguing mood? It doesn't take research to prove an obvious point. Go on any college campus, and you will see the majority of Mac's used by students are the 13" MBP.
I am having a great day, but I am just pointing out the obvious, which you seem to have missed. Seeing lots of students with 13" MBPs is simply anecdotal evidence. I see lots of commuters on the trains and planes using 13" MBPs. Who sees more? You or me? Without hard sales data split up into demographics it's impossible to tell, so your original post is just one silly assumption.
 
I am having a great day, but I am just pointing out the obvious, which you seem to have missed. Seeing lots of students with 13" MBPs is simply anecdotal evidence. I see lots of commuters on the trains and planes using 13" MBPs. Who sees more? You or me? Without hard sales data split up into demographics it's impossible to tell, so your original post is just one silly assumption.


It doesn't take "hard evidence" to make an assumption. On all of the college campuses I've been on, the majority of college students ages 18-24 are using 13" MBP, thats my observation.
 
If you show off your work to your clients on a 13 inch screen, then can I please have your client list and 10 min of their time.

I show off my work on a projector, the resolution and size of which has absolutely no relationship to the quality of my work or what I did in order to produce it.

Or I provide the user with a link to the site, and he/she views it on his/her own equipment.

Again. Not every pro has the same workflow.
 
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