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13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Starts at 128 GB Flash Storage, Mac Mini Goes Quad-Core
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You said that they used garbage, a statement that is completely at odds with the conclusion in that review. I don't think you can be taken seriously.
Yeah, I find it odd that the matched 13" machines have that $200 disparity. Apple has to be conscious of the MBP v. rMBP price comparison (for equally spec'ed machines).
So:
The matching spec MBP v. rMBP 13" is equivalent (the leaked price is wrong)
The rMBP does have some hardware upgrade over the standard machine (discrete GPU, quad core)
Apple is in fact, a little loopy
Yeah, the pricing of the 15" has no difference between retina and non-retina equivalent configurations.
Why would the 13" have a 200$ price disparity ? Either Apple has gone bonkers or something else is included that's not disclosed yet. We'll know in less than an hour or two I guess.
Sounds good in and of itself, although the storage is a bit sparse for the base model. I'm sure it will be a stunning computer though. And, it's very very expensive, of course.
That would be flawed comparison for three reasons.
1. The 15" is at the end of the price spectrum. General market forces are actually having some traction at that range. The $2400 17" product is dead in part because it was priced at $2400.
The middle of Apple's laptop pricing range is under no where near that kind of pressure. In fact instead of models being cancel this is actually the 3rd 13" offering.
2. Apple already has two 13" laptops priced at $1499. Would three models at the exact same price not be destructive and confusing? Product fratricide for no good reason is a highly dubious strategy.
3. Higher priced products tend to absorb higher component costs more easily since the margins are generally higher. The "slop" in margin pricing on the 15" models is higher so Apple takes a less of a hit. Apple's $2500 Mac Pro has lots of cushion in it.
The higher price of the 15" also suppresses the volume. I doubt it volume availibility for the new screens is anywhere near what the MBA and MBP 13" models sell at.
Apple needs 3 13" with the same price like another hole in the head.
Jaded are we?
Actually Crucial has 16GB (8GB X 2, DDR3-1600) for $82. Your suggestion that the hardware will be "too underpowered to produce satisfactory performance" comes from where, exactly. That certainly isn't the case with the 15" MBPr. The OP suggests that Apple will included a dedicated GPU, which seems likely.
I tend to agree that Apple should drop the "Pro" from its notebook line. Maybe when Haswell comes out next year and they drop the non-retina MBPs, they will drop it down to just Macbook and Macbook Air. Save the Pro designation for their forthcoming tower?
In any case, though, they need to have a low-end model to start the line, even with the name "pro" in it. 128gb is plenty for people who want a computer with an awesome display but don't need to store huge video, photo, or audio files on it.
I was extremely nervous to drop down to 128gb when I bought my MBP a year ago, but decided the SSD upgrade was worth it. I never realized how little I'd miss having tons of space. iTunes Match coming out at about the same time probably has a lot to do with it (I now only keep about 20gb of actual music files on the computer for syncing with my iPhone/iPod, and leave the rest in the cloud), but I really don't most people need more than 128gb.
That's the RAM. It's not that easy to replace the hard drive and it will void your warranty.
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+Mac+Mini+Mid+2011+Hard+Drive+Replacement/6422/1
128 gb for $1699??? afdhdhf;dahfah!!!!
Man. I told EVERYONE this in another thread last week and I got flamed.
13" macbook pro will always be the "wanna be" pro. It was never meant as a pro model from the beginning. So stop complaining when it does not have dedicated GPU. Want a real pro? Step up to the big boy's 15 inch mbp.
Yeah, looks like some really expected a 256GB/8GB 13" rMBP at the price of a 256GB/8GB MBA...
The lack of a dedicated GPU makes this machine a complete waste.. paired with a 128GB SSD and a 1700$ price tag makes this one of the most over priced under powered machines I can recall.
Question on 13" rMBP
Does it come with free Image Retention (ghosting) like the 15" rMBP?? I sure hope they solve that problem before they keep releasing new rMBPs!!!
Does it come with free Image Retention (ghosting) like the 15" rMBP?? I sure hope they solve that problem before they keep releasing new rMBPs!!!
with crap graphics
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and "omits the optical drive and Ethernet and FireWire ports."
what a turd, i'll never buy one of these.
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hopefully this will make my 'old' MBP increase in value since these "new" models are so lame. then i can dump it and take a turn onto Hackintosh Blvd
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am i only one who stills needs mobile computing power? you know to do stuff like, encode/transcode video/audio, design antennas/phased arrays, edit 4k video ....
It really is 1699 for those specs. It is super thin though so that adds in price right there. No GPU, bad storage space....just yuck, if this sells then I feel sorry for the people trying to keep costs down and still wanting to use Apple stuff. Mac Mini I dont get that form factor at all, if they had like an HP slimline form factor they could fit a lot more parts. Only Apple can sell such gimmicky stuff. The fanbase is a absolute riot for the comedic gold comments with the RDF in full effect.
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Please post some fabulous pictures of you taking your desktop computer to clients to do demos/prototypes/training so we can laugh at you.
It's going to be interesting to see the sales numbers for this 13". It seems way overpriced and I hoping sales are ridiculously low to the point where Apple has to drop the price.
Well, I'll tell you right now. I was holding out for a 13" rMBP but that price point is just ridiculous. They couldn't even give the $1999 rMBP the i7 chip. I'll be getting the $1499 cMBP and throw my own 512GB SSD when prices get cheaper. They'll be $200 in a year, I'm convinced.
£1450 in the UK! With 128GB of memory. Absolutely pathetic. This is supposed to be a PRO machine? 128GB?! WTF.. ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY pounds should buy you a hell of a lot more than 128GB.