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There is not dedicated vram. It will use the intel hd 4000 just like the regular 13 inch mbp uses. That means shared memory. 128gb ssds cost less than a hundred dollars (about the same as an hdd and thats a top of the line quality samsung 830, apple uses garbage in their machines compared to that) now so that doesn't add up either.

No they don't, the current SSDs are good and in fact uses the 830 controller. lot's of assertive predictions btw, 26 minutes before the event. :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/10
 
I think you forgot the Retina Display and the bump in RAM as well. For $500 you get:

Retina Display
SSD
Twice the RAM
Dedicated VRAM (Rumor).

Not a bad deal.

It's bad. The 15" Retina MBP gets the same upgrade. Yet it retains parity with the pricing of the non-Retina model with those upgrades.

If that were the case with the 13", it would be 1499$ for a base rMBP, since a non-Retina model with 128 GB SSD and 8GB of RAM is that price.

Something doesn't add up. And if it's true, it's a downer for sure.
 
Apple could probably sell these for $1200 and still make a nice profit. With all their cash now, why not reduce the profit margins and take a quantum leap forward. Oh wait, I forgot the obligation toward the share holders to suck the consumers dry... Back to the old pattern again. Looking forward to the incremental updates, and my white beard.
 
Can bump the Air to 8GB but that's where you are capped. Most likely this new model can go to 16GB. That is highly indicative that dealing with a different density of RAM modules. Hence a difference price.

Compare it to the 15" rMBP. Again folks for those just joining us since June :

The 15" rMBP costs the same as a 15" non-Retina model that is upgraded with the 256 GB SSD and 8 GB of RAM.

If you follow the same logic for the 13" :

1499$ for 8 GB and 128 GB SSD.
 
Kinda sad that the mini, with a quad core, still only has 4 GB of RAM. (not as sad that the 13 mbp base model costs over $1000 and only has 4 GB ram, its costs $20 to upgrade that to 8, cmon apple).

13 rmbp is very expensive. 128 Gb is not enough. But, you know, if you agree with this sentiment, vote with your WALLET!. The problem is that people complain about the price but buy it anyways. And apple charges more.
 
Best you could hope for is a 620m, and that wont happen as leaving the dGPU active all the time with all those pixels will destroy battery life and cause unnecessary heat.

I wish Apple would just drop the 13" model for good and focus on the MBA line for portable powerhouses, leaving the 15" for the "pros".

I couldn't agree more.
 
I would like to see a redesign in the modest MB Pro. Just a 1440 x anything in an IPS screen, 32GB SSD "Express Cache" plus a 500GB HDD. DVD-RW, Ethernet, etc.

This would make the current MB Pros really modern machines and not damn old PCs running OSX in an anodized aluminium case.
 
128GB SSD :: cost around $100
4GB more memory :: cost around $20
Retina display :: coat around more $60 than normal
Battery and back light adding cost :: around $40

Hmm, additional $220

$500 premium is little bit high,

Personally thinking, $300-400, it is make sense

128 Gb ssd probably costs about the same as a 750 GB hard drive. (maybe $30 more)
 
Yeah, I find it odd that the matched 13" machines have that $200 disparity. Apple has to be conscious of the MBP v. rMBP price comparison (for equally spec'ed machines).

So:

The matching spec MBP v. rMBP 13" is equivalent (the leaked price is wrong)

The rMBP does have some hardware upgrade over the standard machine (discrete GPU, quad core)

Apple is in fact, a little loopy :D
 
Wow if this is true then it would be way too expensive.
With these specs/pricing it would be better to add only a few hundreds more for a 15" rMBP. You'll get way more, like a bigger screen, quad core, dGPU and 256 SSD.

Apple is testing the waters by adding these new rMBP's to their existing product line. It's just a new product that needs to help phasing out the older products which results in premium price tags.
 
The non-ULV processor can't cost that much more since they use it in the $1199 13" MBP.

The flaw is that isn't really a "better" MBP 13". The thin/lightweight is more a step up from a MBA than the MBP. For users who just want processor "horsepower" and don't mind the size and weight of the MBP 13" and the screen is not a value add .... Apple will happily sell you a MBP 13".

This device is price more relative to the MBA since is it is likley much closer to a MBA than a MBP.

This is also likely priced in the context of moving to Haswell next year. Like the original MBA this unit is likely a bit lacking when it comes to 3D graphics. Setting the price too low now will cause problems later.



Nope, it doesn't. It also costs $400 less than the rumored 13" MBP pricing.

The screen is unique. It is not only differentiated from the MBA 13" and MBP 13" ,but from any competitor for now also. That's is going to be priced higher than the mere component costs differences.

If it has value then buy it. If not buy one of the two other 13" Mac laptops. Apple needs three 13" laptops with the exact same pricing like they need a hole in the head. Two is a useful experiment to decide which of the two this rMBP eventually retires over next year or two.



Why would Apple use high density RAM chips on the 8GB model when it's all soldered to the logic board?

I would guess that both models would have the same number of chips. The 8GB version will just use lower density chips.

I would guess not. For the MBA the 4GB model has RAM on front/top of motherboard. On the 8GB model has RAM on front/top and bottom of the motherboard. The difference between the two is merely adding the same modules in higher number along with number of sides used. That increases the use of the same part and keeps the basic design constant for both. Buy the part in higher numbers and get better pricing.

For the rMBP 13" they'd use the exact same technique to get design/part reuse for this model. The 8GB just uses the top. The 16GB model uses the top and the bottom. Same part used in different numbers. Same manufacturing production line. The only difference in assembly is skipping the insertion on the bottom which is easily made an option stage along the exact same line.

This has side effect of making the lower memory model slightly more expensive, but it also lowers costs for the higher memory option.
 
the 13 rMBP sounds like a disappointment.
1. No discrete graphics
2. 128GB WTF:apple:.

I am going to wait it out with my current 15 MBP, love it but its just very big to be carrying around all over the place. Wishing for a powerful 13" replacement. Hopefully these rumors are false and we get something better.

BTW 15 minutes til conformation
 
Hmm did the porn take up a lot of space on your other machine? Anyway, the reason ppl are complaining is that 128gb hasnt been considered a lot of space on a hard drive since the early 2000's. It should be much larger even being ssd.

Not to mention that "Macbook Pro" is only a silly marketing term. They are NOT built or designed for professionals. They are consumer laptops meant for average consumers.

The percentage of "professionals" who buy a Macbook Pro for work is probably far less than 2% of the total user base. Students, hipsters, and facebook junkies account for 95%+ of all Macbook Pro users. These people are not professionals by any means.

If Apple wanted to be accurate, they would call it the "Macbook Student" or "Macbook Hipster".
 
I bet they will have BTO like they do currently

Currently the BTO option is much too expensive compared to the price of an SSD drive.
For second internal drive you need the adapter cable, which can be expensive.
(For me: about 130 US$ from iFixit, about 60 US$ from OWC by US Postal Service)
 
No they don't, the current SSDs are good and in fact uses the 830 controller. lot's of assertive predictions btw, 26 minutes before the event. :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/10

It uses the sandforce controller. It doesn't use the nand nor samsung tweaks they made to the controller that makes the 830 great. It uses garbage toshiba flash. Also just about everyone is using sandforce so that isn't anything special.
 
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