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13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro to Launch Alongside iPad Mini in October

JS3 said:
I dont understand why ipad got retina and is still the same price? So why isnt the entire macbook pro line retina now at the same price?
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Because there's more to the rMBPs than the display.

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Should be good :) In England, the 15" rMBP is about £200 more than the non-retina.

A 13" rMBP for £1199? Sounds okay to me.
 
Throw in thinner iMacs, and you've got every rumour covered, in one October event.

I'd love to see a 13" Retina, but I'm still sceptical about a Kindle-killer iPad mini. Does anybody seriously think Kindle needs to be killed?

Retina 13" is the next logical step, and MacBooks are often updated in October. iMacs never in October. Now, if you're going to lay them down, and make a full-touch iMac… that's worth shouting about, but I'm expecting a couple of years away on that front.

Mac Pro replacement has been publicly marked for 2013, by Cook, so I think we can forget that one for now.

I thought the Mini disappeared from the logs and we were only seeing iPad 4th Gen, now. Right on schedule for March, and no mini then, either??

I'd love Balls-on-fire and Beard to be wrong, just this once, but they are flavour of the month…
 
Tealover said:
Too expensive for me Ill go standard:)
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Same here. That is a lot of money.

As long as we can still tinker around in our MBP machines to update them later or gradually over time these retinas are not for everybody.

The initial price is just too high partially due to SSD prices.

You get the standard MBP in the price range you can afford and over time replace the superdrive with an SSD option from OWC, memory and you have a fine machine.

I know it's all supposed to be in the cloud which is why we supposedly don't need all the HD space and memory, but it will take me a while before I trust it and change the way I work now.
 
Well, hard disk prices skyrocketed a year ago and never went back to the original ones (because of a flood that destroyed most factories) and SSD prices decreased a lot (a 512GB one can be bought for $399, and a 128GB is priced the same as a 500GB HD), so that's not really a strong argument.
 
Tealover said:
Too expensive for me Ill go standard:)
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It is expensive, but the normal MBP is outdated. The weight and low resolution are a deal breaker for me. The MacBook Air is nice too, but the screen is of much less quality than the MBP and it's also quite expensive.
 
My guess is that once Apple releases the 13" Retina MacBook Pro, it will start the slow but sure phasing out of the current line of MacBook Pros that we all know, assuming they can bring the prices down eventually.

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TC03 said:
It is expensive, but the normal MBP is outdated. The weight and low resolution are a deal breaker for me. The MacBook Air is nice too, but the screen is of much less quality than the MBP and it's also quite expensive.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least from a pixel density standpoint, doesn't the Air have a better screen than the Pro?
 
JS3 said:
I dont understand why ipad got retina and is still the same price? So why isnt the entire macbook pro line retina now at the same price?
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The retina macbooks also have standard SSD's. If you configure a base (classic) Macbook Pro with the same size SSD (256) and ram (8GB) as a Retina MBP with the same processor speed, you'll find that the retina version is actually cheaper.
 
Read everything in this thread as I've been impatiently waiting for the 13" to be announced already.

The Apple-fanboy in me felt the eyegasm when I first saw the 15" retina in store. But the student in me couldn't afford that machine. So I patiently waited for the 13" retina announcement.

For me, to buy the 13" instantly...it would cost $1499, 8 gb ram, 128 gb ssd and have a dedicated gpu!

So the things I am mostly hoping for is the price and the gpu to come true. Holding firmly on to analysts saying the device would be aggressively priced and a dedicated gpu due to it being "pro".

Apple, if you overhear this conversation, please make this christmas the best christmas of all time!
 
Give it a retina display
Keep it the same size as the regular (no need for thinness)
Give it an integrated GPU
Give it a bigger battery
Give it another fan/improve airflow for better cooling
Anodize it black.
 
I really like they update the 13" MBP, but i dont care about the Retina with dedicated GPU...
im waiting for the day they will have quad core cpu inside!!

so for now, till this will happen, im more then happy with my 2009 13" MBP with 8GB and 256B SSD \ 500GB HDD combo :cool:
 
TC03 said:
It is expensive, but the normal MBP is outdated. The weight and low resolution are a deal breaker for me. The MacBook Air is nice too, but the screen is of much less quality than the MBP and it's also quite expensive.
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I agree. I would opt for a 13” air over a MacBook Pro any time of the day. So either way, I still see no reason to pick a pro.
 
MacFather said:
My Predictions...

13-inch: 2.5 GHz Retina display

2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
4GB 1600MHz memory
128GB flash storage
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Built-in battery (7 hours)

$1,599.00


13-inch: 2.9 GHz Retina display

2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7
Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1600MHz memory
256GB flash storage
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Built-in battery (7 hours)

$1,899.00
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That seems about right. Hopefully the 4 gigs of RAM will be enough. I will probably upgrade to 8.
 
Cavalier777 said:
dont forget retina is a BIG part of what makes these things so underpowered.
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How so ? Retina is no worse than plugging an external 30" ACD and ever since the 9400m with mDP gave the MacBook the ability to drive displays with higher than 1920x1200 resolution, it has been able to do so without issue.
 
What is wrong with Apple, if the price is correct they can keep it. Like Woz said, Apple is acting arrogant. Guess 600 billion cash hoard is not enough.
 
So... When is Apple bringing out a prosumer machine?

My poor father is locked in to the Apple ecosystem as he's never owned a Windows PC in his life. He's due an upgrade from his old iMac and the new machines are going to be constructed of underpowered laptop components.

Not to mention the Mac Pro is ancient history.
 
And effective resolution for this 13" screen will still be 1280x800. Ridiculous. At 1440x900 or 1680x1050 I'd buy.
 
The 13" rMBP isn't news. Nor is the 2-config availability a surprise. Where's the part of the quote substantiating the launch date claim?
 
I am in the same situation as someone else up-thread, I need a 17 inch. My clients will never provide a computer or display, I won't work on a 15 inch for 8 hours/day, and I won't carry a 22 or 27 inch display on the plane.

I don't care if it only gets 4 hours on battery, I'll have it plugged in.

I don't care if it is retina or not.

If Apple does not bring back a 17 inch, then my world (and my family and friends) of using Apple for the past 15 years will all start to change back to Yuck PCs.
 
nt5672 said:
I am in the same situation as someone else up-thread, I need a 17 inch. My clients will never provide a computer or display, I won't work on a 15 inch for 8 hours/day, and I won't carry a 22 or 27 inch display on the plane.

I don't care if it only gets 4 hours on battery, I'll have it plugged in.

I don't care if it is retina or not.

If Apple does not bring back a 17 inch, then my world (and my family and friends) of using Apple for the past 15 years will all start to change back to Yuck PCs.
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If a 17" is a MUST for you, then you have to buy a PC. Asus or Sony have great notebooks with that big screen. But NO MacOS X :(
 
dagamer34 said:
We're likely to see a $1499 entry model with some very basic specs. My best guess:

13" Retina display (2560x1600)
2.5 Ghz Intel Core i5 CPU
4GB DDR3L RAM
128GB SSD
2 USB 3.0 ports
1 Thunderbolt port
SDXC slot
1 3.5" mm headphone/mic jack

And then maybe an $1799 model like this:

13" Retina display (2560x1600)
2.9 Ghz Intel Core i7 CPU
8GB DDR3L RAM
256GB SSD
2 USB 3.0 ports
1 Thunderbolt port
SDXC slot
1 3.5" mm headphone/mic jack

3.6lbs, rated 7 hr battery life. Unsure if Apple will stick HDMI in the 13" like they did the 15" (but it would be much appreciated).

Price premium of the Retina Display is about $200. And do remember that there is a lot of fudging because when you configure a 15" Classic MBP with the same hardware specs as the 15" Retina MBP, it costs just the same even without the additional cost of the better display.

Again, these are just guesses, but they're educated guesses.
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First, I can't imagine that 13" rMBP's will sell with such low storage amounts. Many 13" MBP buyers (aka college students) need 500GB+ to store their torrents after all :p. This is the big difference with the 15" price differences. Second, yes you can opt for Apple's $900 512 GB SSD upgrade in a cMBP which would bring it closer to the price of a rMBP but you can also just buy an aftermarket one for $400...

na1577 said:
Yes these are mostly reasonable guesses. But if you configure the existing 13" base model, add in 8 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD, it comes up to $1499. Throwing the premium on for the Retina Display then bumps it up another $1699--just below my estimate. There's three questions here: will it come with 8 GB RAM standard (like the 15"), will it have an i7 processor, and has the price of the display dropped enough to justify a smaller premium for the Retina Display?

My guess is that it will come with 8 GB RAM standard. Apple probably won't include a dedicated GPU in this computer. Having the additional RAM will ensure that this computer isn't prone to the sluggish animations that the 15" has on Intel graphics. I also believe it is likely to have an i7 for general performance reasons. This is supposed to be a high-end professional machine, slightly different than its entry level 13" without Retina Display.

Whether or not this display is come down in price, I have no idea. It may be easier/less expensive for Apple to make 13" displays than 15"; after all, they've been making high-resolution iPhone and iPad displays for a long time now.
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As others have mentioned RAM is not going to help animations as much as optimized coding and a dedicated GPU. Apple can do it if they optimize throttling of the cpu. My 2010 MBA has a Nvidia GPU in it and doesn't overheat and still gets 7+ hours of battery. I think a 13" rMBP has got to come with a dedicated GPU to make the pricing difference worth it.
 
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