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here's the solution for the 13" rMBP.

keep the same size and form of the case.
exchange the superdrive for a hd7970m module (in an upgradeable slot. easy to replace and can start with a weaker gpu like the 650m. this can help both gpu companies and apple)
use the case's superdrive cut for ventilation.
use a hybrid hdd to increase the speed of the system without making sacrifices in cost and in hdd size.
price it at 1500.

they should start to give the mac users some upgradeability options and leave the cash income to the igadgets because it's there where they get the big bucks.
 
Underpowered...you have a MacBook Air...wtf?

For most users the air is fine and the macbook pro is overpowered.

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here's the solution for the 13" rMBP.

keep the same size and form of the case.
exchange the superdrive for a hd7970m module (in an upgradeable slot. easy to replace and can start with a weaker gpu like the 650m. this can help both gpu companies and apple)
use the case's superdrive cut for ventilation.
use a hybrid hdd to increase the speed of the system without making sacrifices in cost and in hdd size.
price it at 1500.

they should start to give the mac users some upgradeability options and leave the cash income to the igadgets because it's there where they get the big bucks.

Apple? User upgradeable? You must be thinking of another apple.
 
My Predictions...

13-inch: 2.5 GHz Retina display

2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
4GB 1600MHz memory
128GB flash storage
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Built-in battery (7 hours)

$1,599.00


13-inch: 2.9 GHz Retina display

2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7
Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1600MHz memory
256GB flash storage
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Built-in battery (7 hours)

$1,899.00


Just Dual core?It should quad instead,Air has it too already,would be redundant.
I mean something must be different,retina is not enough,
so or a quad core
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1461846/
or a Kepler 625/645 m Gpu
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gt-625m
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gt-645m
 
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For most users the air is fine and the macbook pro is overpowered.

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Apple? User upgradeable? You must be thinking of another apple.
Especially since the 15" MBP is pretty much impossible to open up yourself (which is a shame, really).
 
After using the integrated GPU on rMBP and finding out how choppy and under performing it is, I think it would be a good idea to pass this IVY bridge and wait for Haswell. The GPU will be twice as fast which is badly needed for retina display. ;)

I tend to agree - I have had the rMBP since launch and as is often the case with new tech, I would probably hang on for the 2nd gen - usability just doesn't flow as you would expect with macs (not totally apple's fault with 3rd party apps still not updating for retina screens).

Having said that the screen is something that will change your experience and expectations with laptops - I mean, I have toyed with the idea of selling this and 'downgrading' to a MBA or something but every time I have this thought, the prospect of not having this screen stops me.

I'm gonna wait till the retina MBA before switching.
 
How come people can complain about more options to chose from?

Many people think there are only three people designing computers at Apple and fear that all this effort in developing new computers distracts those designers from making the new Mac Pro or Mini.

It's the same people that complain about apple's lack of innovation in one thread and complain here that Apple does something new.
 
$1500+ for a 13" underpowered laptop with a nice screen...no thanks.

I'll keep my 13" Air

Well let's wait for the official event to see full spec of this baby. Not until then you could said it is "underpowered".
 
For a 13" laptop?

madness

I work in IT, and just ordered a 13" dell xps (which by the way looks nice, but it is built like a pos) for a director here. It came to $2135.99 (that is with 3 year support, so same as apple care) plus tax...

grand total of $2414. That is just shy of what I paid for my retina 15 with applecare.

...So tell me again how apple is off there rocker?
 
No, there won't be an Apple notebook that's named with only "MacBook"

I think they still need the standard 13" version with hard drives,and drop the optical drive. They would probably be smart to build a "MacBook" again to keep the same spec lineup as the current 13" which is one of the top sellers and the best value per dollar for students. If they do. retina 13" MacBook Pro, then bumping up to the 14x9 screen might happen too. I think Apple could drop in 128MB of lower class SSD for the OS (still way faster than HDD) but leave the upgradable Ram and HDD for those that need it.

There would still be a hole for such a device because pros would want the SSD for full size, while students want the option for a big HDD to use the MacBook as their sole computer. Effectively the only change from the current 13" would be drop the optical drive and add a small SSD to speed up the OS and App functions... They could even sell a low end model with no HDD installed to hit a price point.
 
The retina screens are nice no doubt about it, but the prices of these laptops are really insane. There are some really nice high end Windows laptop's with High Res screens and newer components that don't cost nearly what these do, it's getting harder to justify a macbook. And with this two tier price structure on first their Ipod Line and now Macbooks apple is telling you if you want cheaper accept last years technology.
 
I predict $1799 now, $1499 next year.
Along with a reduction of the rMBP 15 to $1999 next year as well.
Now they can speculate on early adopters, next year they will streamline the line-up to only Air and rMBP, and will cut price to sweeten the pill.

I think Apple will go somewhere along that route indeed. They'll definately keep the 13 MBP in their line up until next year so I expect a full spec'ed rMBP will be priced at $1799. If you take the pricing of the 15" models into consideration the 13" rMBP will be priced at 1499 and 1799.
I think it's better to wait for Haswell next year as the current MBPs will disappear so the prices of the retina's will have to come down. Also battery, CPU/GPU, driver stuff will be more optimized to work with retina screens.

Therefore, it's a very good thing to hear that a 13" rMBP will most likely be announced soon so that they can test the waters (again).
 
So if this is going to be announced at the same event as the smaller iPad, how do they announce the iPad without retina? It just seems odd that they'd announce a completely new product and it not have retina.
 
$1500+ for a 13" underpowered laptop with a nice screen...no thanks.

I'll keep my 13" Air

100% agree with this.
Im sticking with my current model, where I am able to update the RAM and Drive as and when I need to, rather then having to upgrade the entire machine.
 
I call BS on this announcement. The MBP may very well be available the same time as the iPad mini, but it won't be part of the same announcement/event.
Uh, why not? They've done many keynotes where they introduce new Macs before moving on to whatever the latest iGadget happens to be. The days of holding special events just to launch new Mac models are over, though... if they have new Macs ready but no iGadget event coincides with it, they just update the website some Tuesday morning.
 
Well.. I bought the current 13 inch from frys for the $999 and then bought a 16GB memory upgrade for $71 bucks, so basically the cost of tax. I didn't get an SSD for now, but the ability to do so in the future works for me.

The current screen isn't that bad in my opinion, but I don't discount retina looking beautiful. Having USB3 and Thunderbolt and Running Win7 x64 via Boot Camp is great. I can run Fusion or Parallels if I want to run some Win2012 test boxes or Win8.

The lack of upgradeability to me is a sticking point on the Retinas though.
 
Rumours

I'll believe it when I see it.

Years ago I ran across a theory, since repeated a lot of places until it's become a meme, that the government had stopped trying to control rumours about Roswell, and secret projects, and clandestine operations. Rather they were encouraging every possible wacko theory out there, actively pushing ideas, the crazier the better so while leaks still happened, they were lost in all the noise. Nobody knew what was really going on because of the stories of elvis helping to fake the moon landings and alien technology used to keep zombie Ronald Reagan alive.
Unless the theory itself was disinformation too.

I think Apple has embarked on a similar strategy. After years of trying to keep secrets secret, they now push bloggers, and pendants, and every Gizmodo flunkey out there to publish any and every crazy theory. That way their competitors still don't know what Apple is really going to do and Apple's name is in the press seven days a week.

So, after reading stories of 24 core Mac Pro models, Retina 48" iMacs, and 512Gb iPod Touch's I'm just going to wait. The current rumour of a 13" Retina MacBook Pro could be true, it might not be. But until the announcement is made I'll resist judgement.
That is IF an announcement is made this month. That too could be a planted story. We've already missed at least one date this month and are rapidly running out of time for Apple to issue invites and get something together in October.
 
After using the integrated GPU on rMBP and finding out how choppy and under performing it is, I think it would be a good idea to pass this IVY bridge and wait for Haswell. The GPU will be twice as fast which is badly needed for retina display. ;)

Apple may have their own chip in production by then.
 
Yes these are mostly reasonable guesses. But if you configure the existing 13" base model, add in 8 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD, it comes up to $1499. Throwing the premium on for the Retina Display then bumps it up another $1699--just below my estimate. There's three questions here: will it come with 8 GB RAM standard (like the 15"), will it have an i7 processor, and has the price of the display dropped enough to justify a smaller premium for the Retina Display?

On the 15" side, the premium for Retina display is minus $200. It's cheaper than 15" with equivalent specs. There's no reason to assume Retina would add to the price of the 13" MBP.


The retina screens are nice no doubt about it, but the prices of these laptops are really insane. There are some really nice high end Windows laptop's with High Res screens and newer components that don't cost nearly what these do, it's getting harder to justify a macbook. And with this two tier price structure on first their Ipod Line and now Macbooks apple is telling you if you want cheaper accept last years technology.

I checked it out when the Retina MBP was released. A comparable (fast quad core i7, tons of RAM, SSD drive, hi resolution display) Dell laptop was more expensive, while being a lot heavier, and nobody dared giving you any information about the battery life.
 
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