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weckart

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I'm planning to buy a NVMe m.2 samsung 970 evo 1T ssd.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-...ds=970+evo&dpPl=1&dpID=31SSaevqVNL&ref=plSrch

and wanting to ask you guys is it compatible with my 13 macbook 2015 with an adapter? which adapter is the best?
I've heard the system will re boot if unused for a certain time is that true?
any heat issues?

thanks

Heat and battery issues with that drive. 13" MBP 2015 only has PCIe 2.0 x4 lanes, so max speed will be 1500MB/s regardless. 970 EVO is overkill. Current best bang for buck is Intel 760p or Adata SX8200. Both of these run cooler and with a modest impact on battery life.

There is a large thread on this already.
 

keiji11

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Heat and battery issues with that drive. 13" MBP 2015 only has PCIe 2.0 x4 lanes, so max speed will be 1500MB/s regardless. 970 EVO is overkill. Current best bang for buck is Intel 760p or Adata SX8200. Both of these run cooler and with a modest impact on battery life.

There is a large thread on this already.
Heat and battery issues with that drive. 13" MBP 2015 only has PCIe 2.0 x4 lanes, so max speed will be 1500MB/s regardless. 970 EVO is overkill. Current best bang for buck is Intel 760p or Adata SX8200. Both of these run cooler and with a modest impact on battery life.

There is a large thread on this already.
thank you for your reply. Do you know if the intel or adata will have the sleeping problem?
thanks
 

weckart

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thank you for your reply. Do you know if the intel or adata will have the sleeping problem?
thanks
Running an Adata in mine right now. The 2015 MBPs have the NVMe driver in the High Sierra firmware update. The sleep/hibernation issues only afflict the 2013/2014 models, which don't get a firmware update. Make sure you have High Sierra 10.3.6 installed before you switch hard drives so that your firmware gets updated to the latest revision before you install Mojave onto your new drive.

You can skim read through this topic first. Periodically, there are updates about what drives are available and how they perform.

Upgrading 2013/2014 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
 
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bigpoppamac31

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Heat and battery issues with that drive. 13" MBP 2015 only has PCIe 2.0 x4 lanes, so max speed will be 1500MB/s regardless. 970 EVO is overkill. Current best bang for buck is Intel 760p or Adata SX8200. Both of these run cooler and with a modest impact on battery life.

There is a large thread on this already.

Does the 970 EVO really run that hot and use up that much power? I'm looking to put one of those in either my 2014 13'' or 2015 15" MBP depending on which one I end up keeping.
 

weckart

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Does the 970 EVO really run that hot and use up that much power? I'm looking to put one of those in either my 2014 13'' or 2015 15" MBP depending on which one I end up keeping.
Yes. Over twice as much at idle as the two I suggested. It makes no sense for your 2014 MBP anyway for the reason in the quote from me in your post.

Read the thread before proceeding. Lots of user feedback.
 

bigpoppamac31

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Yes. Over twice as much at idle as the two I suggested. It makes no sense for your 2014 MBP anyway for the reason in the quote from me in your post.

Read the thread before proceeding. Lots of user feedback.

Which of my posts are you referring to?
 

bigpoppamac31

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The one above mine where you quoted me.

So neither the 2014 or 2015 MBP would utilize the 970 EVO to it's full potential? They seem to have very fast read/write speeds. The SSD in the 2015 which Apple uses gets between 1400 - 1900 write/read speeds. My 2014 gets between 650 - 750 write/read speeds.

I think I'm going to sell the 15" MBP anyways as even though I love the bigger screen it's not as portable as the 13". having them side by side I can really notice the difference. I don't usually take my computer outside the house but it's nice to have a portable to use anywhere in the house. I don't do really graphically intensive tasks anyways. I'm just looking for something to give me the most longevity. The 15" has 16GB ram which would be better long term and in either case I can upgrade the SSD. But the 13" only has 8GB ram. I may be in the minority but I just think Apple is charging too much for their products now hence why I'm looking in the used market.
 

keiji11

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So neither the 2014 or 2015 MBP would utilize the 970 EVO to it's full potential? They seem to have very fast read/write speeds. The SSD in the 2015 which Apple uses gets between 1400 - 1900 write/read speeds. My 2014 gets between 650 - 750 write/read speeds.

I think I'm going to sell the 15" MBP anyways as even though I love the bigger screen it's not as portable as the 13". having them side by side I can really notice the difference. I don't usually take my computer outside the house but it's nice to have a portable to use anywhere in the house. I don't do really graphically intensive tasks anyways. I'm just looking for something to give me the most longevity. The 15" has 16GB ram which would be better long term and in either case I can upgrade the SSD. But the 13" only has 8GB ram. I may be in the minority but I just think Apple is charging too much for their products now hence why I'm looking in the used market.
yeah and the keyboards on the newer macbooks sucks. I will only upgrade when they change the butterfly keys
 

weckart

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So neither the 2014 or 2015 MBP would utilize the 970 EVO to it's full potential? They seem to have very fast read/write speeds. The SSD in the 2015 which Apple uses gets between 1400 - 1900 write/read speeds. My 2014 gets between 650 - 750 write/read speeds.

Wrong. The 2015 15" MBPs have PCIe 3.0 x4 lanes, the 13" MBP 2015 and all earlier MBPs have only PCIe 2.0 x4 lanes. Your 2015 MBP would maximise the full potential of the 970 EVO at the expense of battery life. Anecdotal evidence from the thread I recommended everyone thinking of upgrading his hard drive read suggests something in the region of 3hrs or so before your battery needs recharging. I get about 8-10hrs with an Adata SX8200 in my 13" MBP 2015.

Your 15" MBP is the keeper as 2015 MBPs do not suffer from hibernation issues unlike earlier MBPs. It is a better equipped machine in every respect except portability. What you decide to keep is up to you.

Read the thread.

Upgrading 2013/2014 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
 

bigpoppamac31

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yeah and the keyboards on the newer macbooks sucks. I will only upgrade when they change the butterfly keys

I think you will be waiting a long time. ;)
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Wrong. The 2015 15" MBPs have PCIe 3.0 x4 lanes, the 13" MBP 2015 and all earlier MBPs have only PCIe 2.0 x4 lanes. Your 2015 MBP would maximise the full potential of the 970 EVO at the expense of battery life. Anecdotal evidence from the thread I recommended everyone thinking of upgrading his hard drive read suggests something in the region of 3hrs or so before your battery needs recharging. I get about 8-10hrs with an Adata SX8200 in my 13" MBP 2015.

Your 15" MBP is the keeper as 2015 MBPs do not suffer from hibernation issues unlike earlier MBPs. It is a better equipped machine in every respect except portability. What you decide to keep is up to you.

Read the thread.

Upgrading 2013/2014 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe

I do like the 15" and predict it could last longer than my 13" in the long run given the specs. One of the "arms" on the power adapter is broken though. But Apple still charges a lot for their older adapters.

So would you say this is a good price for the Adata SX8200 960GB?
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1229_1296&item_id=123221
 

weckart

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Hmm that's weird. It's $294 Canadian which equates to $224 US for the 960GB stick.

Hard to say. I'm based in the UK. Current best price for a 960GB seems to be £193, which less 20% VAT comes to £161. A bit higher than the US but a bit less than Canada, unless that C$294 includes sales tax.
 

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Hard to say. I'm based in the UK. Current best price for a 960GB seems to be £193, which less 20% VAT comes to £161. A bit higher than the US but a bit less than Canada, unless that C$294 includes sales tax.
Web prices in Canada are not tax inclusive.

The Adata sx8200 960 GB was on sale at Canadacomputers.com for $229 + 13% sales tax.
 

weckart

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Web prices in Canada are not tax inclusive.

The Adata sx8200 960 GB was on sale at Canadacomputers.com for $229 + 13% sales tax.

If that $229 is C$229, then that is a great price for a 1TB NVMe drive.
 

weckart

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Yep I hate that dreaded 13% tax. Guess it's better to wait for a sale then.

I bought mine through a main retailer that also has an eBay storefront. Lately, there have been a number of 10% and 15% off eBay vouchers floating around. That made for a decent offer on my 480GB. There is also Black Friday coming up soon.
 
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