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Which connector is your new unibody Macbook pro

  • Sata I - 1.5Gbit

    Votes: 218 69.6%
  • Sata II - 3.0Gbit

    Votes: 95 30.4%

  • Total voters
    313
An update from my position in the UK with a 2.26 13".

I've just got off the 'phone with technical support at Apple and after illustrating that I did know what I was asking about(and not seeking reassurance that the computer supported SSD drives!), the response was very simple:

'I can confirm that this Mac has a SATA I connection. I am sorry that this Mac doesn't fulfill your needs.'

Off to return it in an hour or so. Very sad state of affairs.

I'm waiting on MBP 13 with 250gb and friend wants to order one with 256 SSD, does this mean that his spec will be SATA I as well? surely not? it would be self defeating to spec the SSD without SATA I/O

tall paul
 
If it's not the physical connection and it's not the chipset, then it HAS to be a firmware issue.

The question is.... is there a valid reason for having the firmware force a SATA I connection (i.e. power draw etc?) or is it a bug that will get fixed?
It just has to be about Apple's bragging rights for the 7 hour battery life. Surely it can't be a coincidence that they artificially downgrade SATA at the same time as they upgrade the 13" and 15" models with the 'magical' battery from the 17" model. The 17" already had that battery and was the only model not downgraded to 1.5 Gbit on June 8th. That battery is bigger, yet the difference is only 1 hour. Sure, the 17" has to power a bigger display, but still...
 
Will this compromise the performance of the 48GB FileMate SolidGO ExpressCard I was thinking of buying on my new 13'' MBP? (First time Mac User)

Cheers
 
alright so, comparing this to my unibody macbook, assuming we dont take into account the bump in processing power, will i notice difference in terms of copying/pasting files or opening programs, saving documents etc?

i doubt the processor would compensate for it..i am not sure correct me if i am wrong.
 
alright so, comparing this to my unibody macbook, assuming we dont take into account the bump in processing power, will i notice difference in terms of copying/pasting files or opening programs, saving documents etc?

Only if you buy a very fast SSD (like Intel or OCZ vertex) and only with larger files.

MBPs with normal hard drives are not affected.
 
Does the new SD reader run on the SATA interface? If so, I wonder if the controller is running SATA I for some compatibility reason? The only thing we seem to know for sure is that the SD reader models seem affected, while the express card models and MBA are not.
 
Does the new SD reader run on the SATA interface? If so, I wonder if the controller is running SATA I for some compatibility reason? The only thing we seem to know for sure is that the SD reader models seem affected, while the express card models and MBA are not.

You are correct, the 17" don't seem to have an SD card slot so in fact you may be on to something.
 
That is false, as the 17" have been shown to have the faster 3.0 interface while having the SD slot.

I stand correct. The 17" don't seem to have an SD card slot so infact you may be on to something.

I wonder if anything about the SD slot can be determined from "About this mac"?
 
The SD Card Slot is connected through USB internally like the keyboard, trackpad and iSight camera. The only SATA devices are the SuperDrive and whatever HDD or SSD you have.
 
This is not a hardware issue because the hardware obviously supports it so a firmware update isn't going to fix it. This is a "driver" (Kext) issue. Can someone try installing vanilla 10.5.7 (not build 3050 that came with it) and see if it goes to 3.0. I would do it myself but I'm not going to be near the computer for a few hours.
 
Well, someone asked awhile ago if anyone had actually planned on adding an SSD to their new 13" MB Pro.

Yes, here I am having ordered the Corsair P256 and picking up my new MB Pro 13" yesterday. Now I pop in and end up reading 15 pages at this point of how I got screwed and the machine probably will not be capable of handling the thru-put from this drive. CRAP.

I really gotta believe this can be fixed with a firmware update. The SSD market is getting ready to explode and without an update, today's MacBook, 1 year from now, will be a serious problem for Apple.
 
This is not a hardware issue because the hardware obviously supports it so a firmware update isn't going to fix it. This is a "driver" (Kext) issue.

Ahh i see. That would explain why the results from testing the SSD, in Windows Vista, in the new uMB are significantly lower than the previous gen uMB. Excellent work, detective.
 
This is not a hardware issue because the hardware obviously supports it so a firmware update isn't going to fix it. This is a "driver" (Kext) issue. Can someone try installing vanilla 10.5.7 (not build 3050 that came with it) and see if it goes to 3.0. I would do it myself but I'm not going to be near the computer for a few hours.


Bugout i was hoping that was the case, however look at my results in windows7 you can see shouldn't be a drivers issue, as the windows 7 driver would be exactly the same on the macbook 13" and MBP 13", yet the result is significantly different
 
Ahh i see. That would explain why the results from testing the SSD, in Windows Vista, in the new uMB are significantly lower than the previous gen uMB. Excellent work, detective.

Easy there tough guy. I thought someone already confirmed Sata2 in win7 via bootcamp. The tone was completely unnecessary. You feel like a big boy now?here have a cookie.
 
This is not a hardware issue because the hardware obviously supports it so a firmware update isn't going to fix it. This is a "driver" (Kext) issue. Can someone try installing vanilla 10.5.7 (not build 3050 that came with it) and see if it goes to 3.0. I would do it myself but I'm not going to be near the computer for a few hours.

Unless there is also a missing driver on the windows side, i dont see this as a kext issue, but a firmware issue requiring a firmware update.

The question then becomes will Apple fix this with a firmware update, or was this done intentionally for whatever reason? As much as i would love to get a 13" MBP for size/weight/price I am interested in going the SSD route, and i may just end up keeping my late 08 MBP 15" and dealing with the size.
 
WELL, I'm not sure what this really means but maybe it explains this issue I have...

I just upgraded from the Rev.A MBA 1.8 SSD to this 13" MBP 2.26GHz, and with the MBA I backed up some data to a memory card. It was about 2GB and it transferred within 10-15 minutes, but with this MBP I'm transferring the same data to the same memory card from the same location but it's taking 50 minutes?!?? Why is it taking so long on the MBP compared to the MBA? :( :(
 
WELL, I'm not sure what this really means but maybe it explains this issue I have...

I just upgraded from the Rev.A MBA 1.8 SSD to this 13" MBP 2.26GHz, and with the MBA I backed up some data to a memory card. It was about 2GB and it transferred within 10-15 minutes, but with this MBP I'm transferring the same data to the same memory card from the same location but it's taking 50 minutes?!?? Why is it taking so long on the MBP compared to the MBA? :( :(


SSD vs HDD sustained transfer speed i'd guess. Either that or your HDD is faulty
 
WELL, I'm not sure what this really means but maybe it explains this issue I have...

I just upgraded from the Rev.A MBA 1.8 SSD to this 13" MBP 2.26GHz, and with the MBA I backed up some data to a memory card. It was about 2GB and it transferred within 10-15 minutes, but with this MBP I'm transferring the same data to the same memory card from the same location but it's taking 50 minutes?!?? Why is it taking so long on the MBP compared to the MBA? :( :(

I would say this should not be due to the SATA interface or the hard drive. Only 2 GBs? It takes my 5400 rpm hard drive about 45 seconds to move that much data.
 
Drew:

I installed SSD in my new macbook pro...so i reinstall the osx that comes with MBP from scratch...it is still sata 1.5 ....
unless u mean snow lepoard
 
The problem is that given the high cost, most people in the market for an SSD will upgrade to one after the fact as opposed to ordering one BTO with one. Other people not currently in the market for one may do so after the prices drop some more. Having this bottleneck will pretty much make that pointless. If one were to order it BTO with the SSD and they got one with 1.5 then they just wasted $850. Also, if it's the same controller (and it seems to be) then Apple is artificially slowing it down. This is something I expect of Microsoft, not Apple. I take that back. It's actually it's beneath Microsoft. It's just plain stupid.

This actually deserves to be front page news!

I was considering the MacBook Pro 13 and selling my white MacBook. I was not interested in immediately upgrading to a SSD as prices are way too high, but the option to do so in the future is there. I will hold off a bit as I want to see what the resolution to this is.

By the way.... I was watching the Super Bowl when the hammer flew and was at John Hancock Hall for the unveiling of the Macintosh by Steve Jobs. I should have saved my tee shirt we were all given at the time....:mad:
 
Only if you buy a very fast SSD (like Intel or OCZ vertex) and only with larger files.

Why would you buy an MBP and then buy a cheap SSD?

I struggled to buy the 13" last night. The glossy screen blows. I don't see how people can argue this is a good thing. Any reflection interferes with the color, crispness of rendered text and images. You're not getting the image as intended. I bought it anyway because this is still the best notebook at this size (so I thought).

I'm glad I read this thread. I was about to put in a 120GB OCZ Vertex. For those of you who have not used a fast, quality SSD, there is a noticeable difference in performance and silence. I will not compromise here. This puppy is going back.
 
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