yup pretty much. someone else mentioned it already, but things like copying large files or having to read large files is where you'll see the difference. like i mentioned in my post, this cap shouldn't keep people from buying the new 13 or 15" mbp as you still get the major benefits of ssd. i've read this entire thread and it seems that the majority of people wouldn't notice this cap in day to day use had it not been discovered.
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13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
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yup pretty much. someone else mentioned it already, but things like copying large files or having to read large files is where you'll see the difference. like i mentioned in my post, this cap shouldn't keep people from buying the new 13 or 15" mbp as you still get the major benefits of ssd. i've read this entire thread and it seems that the majority of people wouldn't notice this cap in day to day use had it not been discovered.
I think the discussion doesn't apply to you. As it only effects the new MB, or 13"MBP.
The reason your new MBP is slower is that Apple reduced the SATA from 3Mbit/s to 1.5Mbit/s in the new MBPs and it also uses a much slower HD then the SSD that was in your MBA, these bottlenecks offset any increase in CPU speed (Mhz) you might have been looking forward to.
Yay... I was worried until i realized
Actually thats a lie And I'm still getting mixed up with the 13" Mb and 13" MBP
Yay... I was worried until i realized
And I'm still getting mixed up with the 13" Mb and 13" MBP
so do any of the new 13" MBP's have 3.0? Or are all of them 1.5? the poll in one of the threads shows some people saying 3.0 i'm confused
The new 13 inch MBPs use SATA I (1.5Gbit/s). I think the reason why some people are saying in the poll that they are using SATA II is because the new 17 inch MBPs use SATA II.
I would say the change from SSD > HDD is the biggest factor that made it seem like his machine slowed down so much and not so much the cap as boot time/app load time is where most people see the difference right away.
Yay... I was worried until i realized
And I'm still getting mixed up with the 13" Mb and 13" MBP
Yeah i still consider the 13"MBP as a rev B. MB. I think i still need sometime to adapt to the new name
So - some Apple store somewhere has a new 13 inch MBP on display with the 128GB SSD and it shows 3.0GB? I thought the custom configurations were not our yet.
Actually if the above is true it is good news - as you can return the current MPB 1.5GB SATA and for $400 more order the Apple configured 128GB SSD - then when you get the machine - remove the 128GB SSD and replace it with your X25 or vertex and ebay/CL the 128GB SSD and at least recoup some of your cash.
Pain in the ass but it could get you to the 3GB SATA interface?
Actually if the above is true it is good news - as you can return the current MPB 1.5GB SATA and for $400 more order the Apple configured 128GB SSD - then when you get the machine - remove the 128GB SSD and replace it with your X25 or vertex and ebay/CL the 128GB SSD and at least recoup some of your cash.
Pain in the ass but it could get you to the 3GB SATA interface?
not worth all the trouble for something that is supposed to be standard as the previous 13" umb had it.
After reading the post again it just say 13" so it could be an 13" air, but if it's a regular 13" MBP then we have a whole new ballgame with hidden features and having more expensive computers with less perceived speed.
Those are no doubt the 17 inchers showing as 3 Gbit, yeah. The poll and the thread title are both misleading at this point as this involves all the latest 13" and 15" uMBPs. The poll needs to be split into several sections, one SATA I/SATA II question for each current model (six total), in order to get an accurate sampling and reduce the confusion.
Woah, I'm no expert, but does that mean I'll suffer the same trouble playing HD movies/TV shows as I did on the Air?
Has anyone heard back yet? Could this be intentional from Apple or just an error which can be corrected with an update to show a correct 3.0Gbit value? Is it supposed to be 3.0Gbit?
the mba rev a had trouble playing hd movies/tv shows because of its poor onboard graphics, not bc of the harddrive or sata interface.
I spoke with Apple and I am waiting to hear back from them. However, they have said to me that this is NOT a named specification so essentially they can do whatever they want with it....not in those words but that was the meaning. I've posted my test in the other thread running about SSD test results.
The performance of my new MBP 13" is certainly better with the Intel X25M that I just installed but I have no way to tell what the performance should be if the speed was at 3.0 vs. the 1.5 I'm showing.
Here is a link to the test results - the blue machine is not mine (before) but one I compared to on xbench that had the exact specifications of my machine before the SSD swap. My machine with the SSD is the red test.
http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=374692&doc2=373700
You mean somebody got a BTO macbook with Apple's SSD (3 gb/s) then took it out and put in one of his own SSD's? And it still showed 3 gb/s?
This is important as it would mean there are some very dubious practices being used by the Apple assembly teams to toggle the "burst" switch on only for custom mac jobs.
These were my thoughts exactly, and what i will probably do with a 13" MBP 2.26Ghz. I would really like to get the 2.53Ghz but the cost diff with the hassle makes me stick with the 2.26. Someone will get a good deal on a Apple 128GB SSD from me and will prob replace it with a 500GB WD Blue, this will give me a platform to take advantage to the faster and higher capacity SSD that will surely be available later in the year, and it will have much better resale value 24-36 months down the road. A pain in the rear for sure, but I think it's the best way to go at this point in time. Hoping this is the case and the BTOs have the 3Mbit/s SATA.
presumably yes. still $50-80 cheaper than the old umbp. (+ discounts and promo if you're a student.)
Plus the biggest, it was a bad design and overheated the processor giving that half the time it ran with half the speed.