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13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
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I submitted it to them a few hours after their GTX 285 story. That was two days ago.
Stories since then:
-Apple Starts Seeding Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L14)
-AT&T Sells Out of Initial Batch of iPhone 3Gs Pre-Orders
-15" MacBook Pro Battery Tests: "Eight, freakin, hours"
They're not going to run it.
What makes you so sure about that? They aren't afraid to bash Apple and point out its faults
The 1.5 Gbit/s SATA connection was practically confirmed 2-3 pages into this thread. If they aren't afraid then why haven't they posted this story yet? I guess it's because they have more important stuff to write about like AT&T selling iPhones.
edit: And I'm not talking about wanting them to post an article bashing Apple either, because it isn't confirmed yet whether this was intentional or a mistake. All I want is a front page article that points out the fact that all new MBPs (except for the 17") have a 1.5 Gbit/s SATA connection. Just having that article on the front page would help us out a lot.
^^^ Arn's aware of it :https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7804701/
Give him some time to fact check it. I doubt anyone will report on it until they've had a chance to talk to their contacts at Apple for comment.
Give him some time to fact check it. I doubt anyone will report on it until they've had a chance to talk to their contacts at Apple for comment.
I think this thread is enough proof. Again, I'm not asking for MacRumors to post an article confirming that Apple has done this. All I want is an article (possibly titled something like: New MBPs limited to 1.5 Gbit/s SATA connection?) with a link to this thread. They don't have to check with Apple for any of that. That would dramatically increase exposure to this thread and possibly force Apple to make an official response.
Arn is the founder(?) and owner of MR.
Nice catch on his post btw. These websites do need to check with apple before they publish anything. for all we know, Apple is already working on a firmware update to fix the problem. Everyone sending an email to Apple should have their response either tomorrow or Tuesday.
I agree with you, and am surprised there hasn't been anything posted yet. Just venturing a guess as to why not...
Yes like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't think this sata cap should prevent people from buying the new mbp or install an ssd because you are still going to see some of the major benefits of it, particularly faster boot time and app loading time. even if apple releases a fix for it, the boot/app load time will be the same.
Speed Bench Confirmations
Are their any confirmations outside of what System Profiler is reporting? Is there anyone that can put a SSD in both a 13 uMB and 13 MBP and document the data rate?
At this point it could be a bug in System Profiler as much as a downgrade. Plus it would be helpful to know exactly how much of a downgrade people are getting into.
If I were Arn, that is what I would be confirming before running the story.
Are their any confirmations outside of what System Profiler is reporting? Is there anyone that can put a SSD in both a 13 uMB and 13 MBP and document the data rate?
At this point it could be a bug in System Profiler as much as a downgrade. Plus it would be helpful to know exactly how much of a downgrade people are getting into.
If I were Arn, that is what I would be confirming before running the story.
if you look back, people have already confirmed this (myself included) with benchmarks showing the reads and writes they are getting. i've read the whole thread and i think everything that needs/should be said has already been said or mentioned in some way, so there should be enough evidence here for arn to look and hopefully post on the front page.
Haha, exactly. Once these threads get this long they are useless. Which is why I don't mind multiple shorter threads on the same topic. Can find the information faster.
Exactly, this is no longer speculation, it's fact. We've been waiting for a response from Apple for dozens of pages already.
It's been done several times. OCZ Vertex is getting 120MB/sec max. That's even less than SATA 1.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7801924/
people who really care about the issue will read the thread. the reason why threads get so long sometimes is because of redundant questions and answers. having multiple threads on the same topic is pointless imo (would just clutter the forum)
You could argue that people who really care about the information want it accessible faster.
maybe you can start another thread summing up the findings in this thread so people will find it easier
It was already done in another thread.
I guess you didn't find that info, because it took you 4 hours to read through all these pages. Where as I found what I wanted in less than 5 minutes by going into one of those "redundant" threads you hate.
We don't really fact check with Apple. Apple doesn't really talk to us. But I was wrapping up from WWDC and flying from West to East coast, so just haven't had much time to sit down.
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It was already done in another thread.
I guess you didn't find that info, because it took you 4 hours to read through all these pages. Where as I found what I wanted in less than 5 minutes by going into one of those "redundant" threads you hate.
i didn't need to find any info I've been posting since the beginning trying to help people like you out with info. on the technology and benchmarks. glad that you found what you needed. next time i need to look up some info, i'll be sure to look for the small threads first rather than the one with 54K views and 800 replies
Whoever put this up, please take it down and fix the horribly misleading title. SSD performance is not cut in half due to the limitation, only in a few circumstances does the performance drop by a little bit and even then none of the data shown here has been literally half. More like 30%. In fact some of the test data shown here shows increases in SSD performance compared to the older MBs using 3.0 connections. Just report the truth, that the SATA 3.0 connection is now only showing 1.5. Don't sensationalize and try to keep some credibility?
Ruahrc
I did not put it up but I can see his point: throughput is cut in half.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7801924/
I can see your point too, real world performance is not cut in half.