13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

Which connector is your new unibody Macbook pro

  • Sata I - 1.5Gbit

    Votes: 218 69.6%

  • Sata II - 3.0Gbit

    Votes: 95 30.4%
  • Total voters
    313
what was apple engineers thinking??

wow, unbelievable. i can't believe apple pulled this stunt behind the scenes. you all got shafted. :(

i was planning on upgrading my whitebook when SL comes out Sept. and transfer my ssd over to the new 13.3 uMBP, forget that now...i will pick up a refurb 2.4 uMB when it's price comes down. that's ridiculous apple!! :mad:

i don't care about battery life at the expense of my ssd speed and x64 OS. fix it before you release SL!!
 
iAlex said:
Apparently, Apple has downgraded the new 13" MBP SATA to 1.5Gb from the previous 3.0Gb.

If this upsets you ( which it should ) you can express your displeasure to Apple via this feedback link : http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html
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Please explain to us why this "sucks".

I'm guessing your reason is something like this: 3.0 iz betterz than 1.5!!!111one11!! WTFLOLBBQ!!! :rolleyes:

Current notebook drives don't come even close to the 1.5 Gbit SATA specification's limit. Going to the 3.0 Gbit speed gains you *absolutely nothing* in performance. Did you hear that? Absolutely Nothing!!

Further, 3.0 Gbit SATA requires a lot more power than 1.5 Gbit sata. Yes - you get BETTER battery life with 1.5 Gbit SATA.

So basically there's NO advantage at all to use 3 Gbit sata in a notebook. None. And there's a distinct disadvantage when it comes to battery life. I'm glad Apple has the sense to realize that. Too bad you don't.
 
Ploki said:
no, you are wrong.



you people are so blindly attached to your beliefs, its spreading like a plague... read people.. once again has been proven, not that 17" is the only pro laptop, but that PRO is merely a moniker.
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then do me a favor and tell me how I'm wrong instead of being a jackass. Thank god you don't work in retail because you'd be fired in no time.

"do these pants come in a size 34?" YOU'RE WRONG! "thanks"
 
Anyone know of any good software to report what version of SATA Windows thinks is running? The utils I tried are reporting what the drive says it is, which is SATA II.
 
adamjackson said:
then do me a favor and tell me how I'm wrong instead of being a jackass. Thank god you don't work in retail because you'd be fired in no time.

"do these pants come in a size 34?" YOU'RE WRONG! "thanks"
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do i have to post the link for the third time ? :( or will you click on it already?
by the way its a nice figure, made me laugh. :D
well, im happy i dont work in retail too. ;D

Anuba said:
Oh, that we knew all along. Pro is (secretly) short for Prosumer, not Professional, as far as MacBooks are concerned. The Mac Pro still deserves the professional badge, though.
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Hell yeah! ;D
 
icetyu said:
Yes, testing has been done in other threads regarding the limitation of the SSD read/write speed due to the 1.5 gb cap.
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Yes, if you look at those threads you'll see where I posted other people's xbench results on 2008 uMB/P (with 3 Gbs SATA) that fall on either side of a current 13" MBP with the same drive.
 
Wotan31 said:
Please explain to us why this "sucks".

I'm guessing your reason is something like this: 3.0 iz betterz than 1.5!!!111one11!! WTFLOLBBQ!!! :rolleyes:

Current notebook drives don't come even close to the 1.5 Gbit SATA specification's limit. Going to the 3.0 Gbit speed gains you *absolutely nothing* in performance. Did you hear that? Absolutely Nothing!!

Further, 3.0 Gbit SATA requires a lot more power than 1.5 Gbit sata. Yes - you get BETTER battery life with 1.5 Gbit SATA.

So basically there's NO advantage at all to use 3 Gbit sata in a notebook. None. And there's a distinct disadvantage when it comes to battery life. I'm glad Apple has the sense to realize that. Too bad you don't.
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How do you know by using 1.5 gb SATA increases battery life, if your stock drive only uses less than half of its bandwidth?
 
Well then I'm done. I'll just waste money and keep my badge as an elitist ******* so I can have a 3.0 SATA connection.

I'll go into the apple store, buy a 17", open it in the store, check system profiler and if it's not 1.5, I'll return it right there and continue paying the effing restocking fee until I get one with 3.0 because that's how I roll.

A) I don't care about battery life
B) I don't care if my SSD even takes advantage of that much bandwidth
C) I don't care what Apple thinks is good for me.

The fact is, they downgraded and I'd like an explanation. In the meantime, I have cash to burn and that's what I'm going to do.
 
strange thing is that hdtune is reporting the connection to be sataII

ssdbenchmarkundersata15.jpg
 
Wotan31 said:
Please explain to us why this "sucks".

I'm guessing your reason is something like this: 3.0 iz betterz than 1.5!!!111one11!! WTFLOLBBQ!!! :rolleyes:

Current notebook drives don't come even close to the 1.5 Gbit SATA specification's limit. Going to the 3.0 Gbit speed gains you *absolutely nothing* in performance. Did you hear that? Absolutely Nothing!!

Further, 3.0 Gbit SATA requires a lot more power than 1.5 Gbit sata. Yes - you get BETTER battery life with 1.5 Gbit SATA.

So basically there's NO advantage at all to use 3 Gbit sata in a notebook. None. And there's a distinct disadvantage when it comes to battery life. I'm glad Apple has the sense to realize that. Too bad you don't.
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SATA 1.5 Gbit/s = Real speed 150 MB/s

SATA 3.0 Gbit/s = Real speed 300 MB/s


Quote from Wiki - "Today's[update] mechanical hard disk drives can transfer data at up to 127 MB/s,[7] which is within the capabilities of the older PATA/133 specification. However, high-performance flash drives can transfer data at up to 201 MB/s.[8] SATA 1.5 Gbit/s does not provide sufficient throughput for these drives."

Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA



I wouldn't have posted if it wasn't for your obnoxious attitude. Congratulations on making an absolute fool of yourself.
 
Wow that is the first I have seen of windows 7 and it looks extremely similar to tiger! I guess if they can't beat mac os x they can try to be it.
 
adamjackson said:
Well then I'm done. I'll just waste money and keep my badge as an elitist ******* so I can have a 3.0 SATA connection.

I'll go into the apple store, buy a 17", open it in the store, check system profiler and if it's not 1.5, I'll return it right there and continue paying the effing restocking fee until I get one with 3.0 because that's how I roll.

A) I don't care about battery life
B) I don't care if my SSD even takes advantage of that much bandwidth
C) I don't care what Apple thinks is good for me.

The fact is, they downgraded and I'd like an explanation. In the meantime, I have cash to burn and that's what I'm going to do.
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its probably just a software/firmware glitch, throughout the whole line, so dont start being in a bad mood for it
 
The MCP79 (over a 1 year old chipset now) supports 3.0, so I'm thinking it's just a software glitch. At any rate, you'll likely never see a huge difference anyway in normal use.
 
13" UMBP 2.53 here also showed 1.5 Gigabit. :confused:
Could it be the special edition 10.5.7 build 9J3050 that reported wrong SATA-II speed on all the SD enabled UMBP? It doesn't make sense on higher end 15" UMBP with 1.5 Gigabit!
 
Here is what SiSoft Sandra is reporting on my MacBook Pro 13"

Look under Current SATA Mode.

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Windows 7 RC1 x64. Hard drive is a Western Digital Black 7200RPM 320GB.
 
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