13" RMBP - 16GB or 512 SSD?

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  1. cramazing macrumors 6502

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    looking to get the new 13" RMBP

    price is the same but can't decide on which option.

    2.6GHz 16GB 256SSD
    2.6GHz 8GB 512SSD

    Price is both $1799

    which one do you prefer and is the better option?

    My needs, I am a light user, I probably don't need the 16GB, currently using a MBA with 8GB and it has been fine, about how about the future? thats what I'm worry about.

    Thanks
     
  2. doubleaa macrumors regular

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    Buy with an edu discount and you can get both for $1879. No brainer for an extra $80.
     
  3. diogoh macrumors newbie

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    I would choose the 512Gb SSD + 8 Gb RAM model. That's what I have on my macbook air 2013.

    With this configuration I can run Windows 7 on Parallels without any issues, even game a little with SimCity running fine. This is the only occasion where my system used the entire RAM (4Gb for each OS). Apart from that, theres plenty of memory free.

    I think you will fill up the 256 Gb SSD faster than you could use more than 8 Gb of RAM, if you are such a light user.
     
  4. cramazing thread starter macrumors 6502

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    no edu email
     
  5. V4705 macrumors 6502

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    Nobody can really answer this question except you...

    For somebody who runs lots of VMs, 256gb might be enough but 8gb isn't enough,
    For 1080p porn collection, you probably need as much space as you can get, but 8gb will more more than enough memory for you.

    For a light user, even 8gb of ram with 256gb storage should be great.
    I guess if you really don't do much multi-tasking, a year or 2 from now, 8gb of ram would still be enough memory (specially with Maverick's compression).
     
  6. ioannis2005gr, Oct 26, 2013
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    I would prefer a BTO version: 256GB PCIe+i5 2.6GHz+16GB RAM.

    This is a more "future-proof" option.

    Besides, check this:

    http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

    If you need space to save your files, you can buy a nice external storage disk (RAID array) for your appropriate backup process.
     
  7. doubleaa macrumors regular

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    You don't need one.
     
  8. Benjamin99 macrumors member

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    Agreed, this would be my choice if I were to stretch my budget. You can always expand the storage in the future w/ external drives, and possibly swap the internal one day. The RAM is a done deal as its soldered on.
     
  9. AllergyDoc macrumors 65816

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    Not sure what that means. I just bought a 13" retina with an educational discount. I ordered by phone. They asked what institution I worked at. They found it on their list and that was that. I'm not suggesting you fib (or am I), but it seems Apple is pretty happy to sell their computers at $100-200 off, enough that they don't ask for verification.

    PS My wife works at the university, not me.
     
  10. cramazing thread starter macrumors 6502

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    yeah I'm really not sure which way to go, I can get the maxed out 13" but once we are in that territory we are then in the 15" 16GB 512GB 750M range...
     
  11. Jeanloup macrumors regular

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    I had the same problem as you and I'll go with a MBA because of image retention. It looks like 13" rmbp are still plagued with that issue... Not going to get screwed with that issue getting worse over time and not being able to return it.
     
  12. ioannis2005gr macrumors 6502

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    do you have a thread to explain us what happened? it sounds scary!
     
  13. Jeanloup, Oct 26, 2013
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    Explain the image retention ? It's a known issue for most people and there's plenty of topics about it. You should check the one on Apple forums : https://discussions.apple.com/message/23535472#23535472 . You'll see people have posted screenshots of their 13" rmbp haswell with IR as proof.

    And if they were no IR I would get the 16GB of Ram because you can't change it later whereas the ssd can be replace even if it's no easy task. Plus there's external storage and the cloud for your stuff.
     
  14. Animalk macrumors 6502

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    The RAM choice is permanent whereas the SSD choice is not. Though from what I gather there is only OWC who makes the SSD cards for Apple Notebooks and they are quite expensive.

    I would go with 16GB ram.
     
  15. Scott7975 macrumors 6502

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    I would go with bigger HD space. Unless you are running some intensive stuff, or you are running a metric ton of open windows... you are unlikely to need 16gbs. If you don't need it now then you are unlikely to need it 4 years from now.

    16 gigs would be for someone doing a lot of movie editing or photo processing or heavy developing/parsing work. Maybe someone with heavy excel work. Things like that. Also running VMs with other OS's that eat up resources.

    I don't believe that will change in the next 4 years. More programs will utilize higher amounts of ram maybe but you don't sound like someone that would use those type of programs.
     
  16. ayeying macrumors 601

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    No image retention on my 13" rMBP. I ordered 2 13" rMBP before, neither of them had IR.
     
  17. terzinator macrumors 6502

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    I'd go for the most RAM, as you can't upgrade the RAM yourself. But you CAN move to a bigger SSD down the road.

    At least, this is what I understand to be true.

    Correct me if I'm wrong!
     
  18. Scott7975 macrumors 6502

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    It is assumed that eventually someone will make aftermarket SSDs for these. Currently they don't. You can also buy externals for really cheap. I have one on my network that I can access from anywhere that I have wifi.

    I only recommend the storage space as apposed to ram because its unlikely he will ever need the ram. Storage is something that almost everyone needs. Even if you can get bigger ones down the road... they are likely to be really expensive. Then you need the know how to change them out or you need some more cash to pay someone to do it for you.
     
  19. terzinator macrumors 6502

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    But the OWC Aura drives are built for the MBA… and seem to be easily replaced... not the same with the rMBP?

    From an external site:

    Upgrade Obstacles & SSD Details

    Apple does not intend for end users to upgrade the SSD in these models themselves. The company even has used uncommon "pentalobe" screws -- sometimes called five-point Torx screws -- to discourage access. However, access is straightforward with the correct screwdriver, the SSD is simple to access, and upgrades are not blocked in firmware, either.
     
  20. Scott7975 macrumors 6502

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    Im new to Mac but from what I have read around here... the new macs are running with pci-e ssds and no one makes them yet. I don't know if that's accurate but I read that in a few threads here.

    It may be easy to change but that doesn't apply to everybody. A lot of things are easy for me to do, but I still see people that cant even change their own oil in their car.
     
  21. terzinator macrumors 6502

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    I thought OWC aura would work in the new rMBPs… Actually gonna call them about that this week to confirm.

    But, my feeling is, things change quickly… if you wait a little bit, there will be a drive available that will work. But the RAM, you're stuck with what you buy.
     
  22. Scott7975 macrumors 6502

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    Yes, I am sure someone will make them eventually if not already. You are also correct that you are stuck with the RAM you buy. I just look at what the needs are and what the needs are likely to be down the road. I don't see him needing more then 8, but then again he didn't exactly say what he does and just said he was a light user.

    Im personally getting 16GBs but for what I do, even if I don't use it now, I am likely to need it down the road. I have come close to maxxing the 8 on my desktop pc. Im sure with an Apple that I will atleast boot camp windows, if not use VMs... that I will max 8.
     
  23. ioannis2005gr macrumors 6502

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    I'm not sure but as far as I understand, IR problem appears gradually.
     
  24. Jeanloup macrumors regular

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    Indeed. For me it started only after 3 months. I hope you won't have the issue but so far every owner of the 13" retina I'v met experienced the problem at some point ...
     
  25. ioannis2005gr macrumors 6502

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    This is ridiculous and completely unacceptable!

    APPLE should be informed and replaces all defective monitors as soon as possible.

    Also, APPLE should get rid of LG IPS monitors and improve quality control in China...

    SAMSUNG monitors appear less problems, as far as I know. :rolleyes:
     

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