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I still think the lag issue is software related.

Apple needs to make better drivers as well.
 
I still think is like when they release retina on ipad and after half a year they put another chip to sustain the retina display.
 
What is WiFi 5g? That makes no sense... If you're talking about AC considering there is little to no support for it yet there really is no reason to have it. I wouldn't be changing out my complete wifi infrastructure to support 1 device on AC, I would wait till it was more widespread. Just as most did with N.

If you need a laptop now buy the new MBP, if you can wait then wait, just be warned that when Haswell is released the same trolls on the "wait for haswell it will solve world peace" trip now will switch to whatever new tech is on the newswire. It is a never ending cycle.

My 13.3" i7 3.0 is great, no lag, no IR, Samsung 256GB Flash, I couldn't ask for anything more. It a huge step up from my core duo 2006 MBP.

well for someone like me who plans on buying a macbook pro for few years (im still on a 2008 pre unibody one) I look at the things for long run and WiFi AC is one of them.

All new smart phones are coming out now with wifi AC (samsung galaxy s4) its becoming main stream, whoever is buying a new router these days also looks at wifi AC enabled ones.

So question is if the individual is buying hardware for 6 months or something that they will use down the road. Im not going to mention other factors that haswell has to offer in the upgrade.
 
well for someone like me who plans on buying a macbook pro for few years (im still on a 2008 pre unibody one) I look at the things for long run and WiFi AC is one of them.

All new smart phones are coming out now with wifi AC (samsung galaxy s4) its becoming main stream, whoever is buying a new router these days also looks at wifi AC enabled ones.

So question is if the individual is buying hardware for 6 months or something that they will use down the road. Im not going to mention other factors that haswell has to offer in the upgrade.

Great point.

The difference between n and ac are fairly huge. With ac you can get the full potential of NAS over WiFi, you could potentially get the 80-100MB/s .

Not to mention just file transfer between computers will be so much faster
 
well for someone like me who plans on buying a macbook pro for few years (im still on a 2008 pre unibody one) I look at the things for long run and WiFi AC is one of them.

All new smart phones are coming out now with wifi AC (samsung galaxy s4) its becoming main stream, whoever is buying a new router these days also looks at wifi AC enabled ones.

So question is if the individual is buying hardware for 6 months or something that they will use down the road. Im not going to mention other factors that haswell has to offer in the upgrade.

Amazon has 9 routers listed that support Wireless AC, yea its really mainstream... :rolleyes:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...=wireless+router+AC&sprefix=wireless+,aps,260

Considering my last laptop lasted me nearly 7 years your 6 month upgrade pattern is quite moot. As far as Samsung phones, they all have NFC too and that's done really well for itself here now hasn't it?

N started the same way, given time I'm sure AC will be all over but for now I can care less since all my devices are N and my Airport is dual band N. Upgrading a router to support 1 device is asinine until the technology becomes more stable and mainstream.
 
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Amazon has 9 routers listed that support Wireless AC, yea its really mainstream... :rolleyes:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...=wireless+router+AC&sprefix=wireless+,aps,260

Considering my last laptop lasted me nearly 7 years your 6 month upgrade pattern is quite moot. As far as Samsung phones, they all have NFC too and that's done really well for itself here now hasn't it?

N started the same way, given time I'm sure AC will be all over but for now I can care less since all my devices are N and my Airport is dual band N. Upgrading a router to support 1 device is asinine until the technology becomes more stable and mainstream.

And now with the 10.8.4 beta we see that the new MacBook line will have 11.ac support. One wish- check.
 
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Newer is better.

On a serious note, only splurge for the 2013 model on the 15" rMBPs. Those have newer CPUs and upgraded memory on the higher end model. The 13" model saw price changes in 2013 but the CPUs remained the same.

From what I understand those 15"ers don't have a new CPU at all. Just ramped up and a NEW sticker on them. 100 MHz bump doesn't make it new. I'm waiting for the big announcement on June 10. I suggest that you do too. It's just too close. If the news isn't satisfactory then you can buy the current one for even cheaper
 
I still think the lag issue is software related.

Apple needs to make better drivers as well.

i aunestly dont know what "lag issue" there is , i have run it for 2 weeks using a variety of configurations and never once had screen lag.

i do have 10.8.3 which i guess is suppose to fix the issue.


but i normally run this screen at 1920x1200 and have 2 external 1920x1080 screens attached using aperture , itunes , firefox , flow.

never once had screen lag.

im on a 2.5ghz / 128g / rmbp 13" refurb 2012

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And now with the 10.8.4 beta we see that the new MacBook line will have 11.ac support. One wish- check.

WIFI AC is still draft 5 spec , it wont be coming out anytime soon.

i doubt apple will put it in any machine as DRAFT 5.0 Spec.



final version is due early next year, then i think we will see it main stream.
 
Based upon what you said your usages are that's why I listed the Air. The only thing you're paying for in the rMBP is just the screen. You are using the same CPU (just clocked lower) and you have the same integrated graphics card in each. Plus it's lighter and thinner than the rMBP13.

Based upon your usage the Air will do everything you want it to do. It just won't have the screen.
But it does have a bigger footprint as it is wider and longer computer despite being thinner and lighter.
 
It's definitely technically possible, but I don't think it will happen.

Many tasks are still limited to single thread performance, and the 35W quad core CPUs have a lower max turbo boost frequency than the dual cores.

Some of the UI and scrolling lag that people have noticed on the rMBPs is similarly related to single thread performance, mostly in Safari.
 
So, with Haswell officially out, it looks like Apple might use a 37W quad in the new 13" rMBP. Would they do that just to get Iris graphics? Heat concerns? Predictions? We will see in six days,but until then...
 
So, with Haswell officially out, it looks like Apple might use a 37W quad in the new 13" rMBP. Would they do that just to get Iris graphics? Heat concerns? Predictions? We will see in six days,but until then...

37w doesnt have iris, nor iris pro

only certain ulvs come with gt3 and only certain 47w quads come with gt3e

i hope they pony up and go for the 47w gt3e models
 
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37w doesnt have iris, nor iris pro

only certain ulvs come with gt3e and only certain 47w quads come with gt3e

i hope they pony up and go for the 47w gt3e models

Hope so too. This would probably be the first 13'' Macbook since switching to Intel that deserves the Pro name.
Worst case would be, if they stick with dualcore and integrated graphics (probably HD 4600 on the 37W) and the 15'' rMBP gets IRIS ... only!
 
My contacts in the supply chain are predicticting the i7-4558U, a dual core part that is circulating around. This part has iris pro, and is a 28 TDP part. It is said this will be going into the top line 13 mac book pro with retina.

This is as far as the i5 option, my guess they will have to go with a HD 4600 part instead.
 
My contacts in the supply chain are predicticting the i7-4558U, a dual core part that is circulating around. This part has iris pro, and is a 28 TDP part. It is said this will be going into the top line 13 mac book pro with retina.

This is as far as the i5 option, my guess they will have to go with a HD 4600 part instead.


If they're going to go with a 28W CPU at the top end, that would actually be moving the 13" rMBP to be closer to the 13" Air.

I wonder if with the new IGZO displays and new Haswell CPUs if they could make the 13" rMBP thin enough to completely replace the 13" Air.

Personally I would rather see them go the other way and make the 13" rMBP a real mobile powerhouse with a 47W quad core + Iris Pro.
 
My contacts in the supply chain are predicticting the i7-4558U, a dual core part that is circulating around. This part has iris pro, and is a 28 TDP part. It is said this will be going into the top line 13 mac book pro with retina.

This is as far as the i5 option, my guess they will have to go with a HD 4600 part instead.

The rmbp 13 has 2 fans just like the 15" cmbp. I bet it has more than enough cooling to handle 47 watts of tdp.
 
The rmbp 13 has 2 fans just like the 15" cmbp. I bet it has more than enough cooling to handle 47 watts of tdp.

indeed doesnt make sense.

Its simple, you want gt3? get a quad

28w is probably going for the mba 13 and the 11 is going to receive some of the 15w ulvs
 
My contacts in the supply chain are predicticting the i7-4558U, a dual core part that is circulating around. This part has iris pro, and is a 28 TDP part. It is said this will be going into the top line 13 mac book pro with retina.

This is as far as the i5 option, my guess they will have to go with a HD 4600 part instead.


Well it is confirmed. The i7-4558U will be the next upper tier processor for the 13Mbp Retina. :)

This is good news as we will see better battery life and better GPU performance.

The Core i5-4258U will be the entry level processor also with the Iris Pro 5100, also a 28W part. :)

Also the better SSD PCIe. Of coarse that would be a no brainer.

I am also hearing a price reduction by $100.00. That is not confirmed but that is what I am hearing. We will see.
 
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Haswell GPU is 50% better in Intel's lab tests, the real world results will be nowhere near that. Same goes for CPU and battery life. Haswell is just a bump, its not worth half the hype people here want to think it is.

I have a late 2006 MBP that has been rock solid, a early '13 MBP will net me far more than waiting for haswell will. Considering my Mac is nearly 7 years old I've waited long enough to upgrade it :p Any computer you buy will be outdated in 3-6 months, once Haswell is out all the tech trolls here will start screaming about Broadwell, its a never ending cycle.

14nm has been delayed. Broadwell won't show up next year, only Haswell minor upgrade

Considering the GPU speedup, Haswell is worth the money and will be relevant for quite some time
 
Well it is confirmed. The i7-4558U will be the next upper tier processor for the 13Mbp Retina. :)

This is good news as we will see better battery life and better GPU performance.

The Core i5-4258U will be the entry level processor also with the Iris Pro 5100, also a 28W part. :)

Also the better SSD PCIe. Of coarse that would be a no brainer.

I am also hearing a price reduction by $100.00. That is not confirmed but that is what I am hearing. We will see.

How is this confirmed? Did Apple call you and tell you?
 
Well it is confirmed. The i7-4558U will be the next upper tier processor for the 13Mbp Retina. :)

This is good news as we will see better battery life and better GPU performance.

The Core i5-4258U will be the entry level processor also with the Iris Pro 5100, also a 28W part. :)

Also the better SSD PCIe. Of coarse that would be a no brainer.

I am also hearing a price reduction by $100.00. That is not confirmed but that is what I am hearing. We will see.

will there be a 16gb ram option?
 
14nm has been delayed. Broadwell won't show up next year, only Haswell minor upgrade

Considering the GPU speedup, Haswell is worth the money and will be relevant for quite some time

thats only going to happen for desktops not laptops
 
You've no source.

actually when that came a few months ago it was stated that. there was sudden resurgence on that news since the rumor mill for haswell doesnt make sense anymore.

I will try to find the article/s and post here.

though to say that the rmbp 13 is going for U cpus is rather disappointing, I was surely hoping for a quad to differentiate the line
 
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